One of the best posts I've read on here tbh. You know your shit man. I'd be interested to see a post about dealing with natural sociopaths/alpha males in the workplace.

Great post. As someone who has managed large teams at both fortune 100 companies and venture backed start-ups, it's spot on truth. Nice work, and to reiterate, don't fuck people you work with, especially if you are a manager/executive. The juice is never worth the squeeze.

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Your corporate companies sound like really shitty places, fuck the whole concept of sexual harassment. Shitty modern life and its stupid laws. If I wanna fuck a coworker og flirt with her I will damn well do so if I so desire, fuck these HR cuntfaces.

i can personally attest to everything written here. worked for a company owned and run by a woman for over 8 years. the sexism against males was very high. all the manager positions were filled with women and none of them had any clue how to do their job. so literally that they ran the company into the ground (big fucking surprise).

as my step father told me many times before (he ran his own mortgage company for 2 decades): "never hire broads if you want to get shit done"

One fine day, the lady was called in by her boss to talk about underperformance. She immediately claimed that she was distracted because my friend was flirting with her everyday and it was making her uncomfortable and impacting her performance. The bitch basically sacrificed the dude to save her job. My friend underwent months of HR BS and sexual harassment training. Tough shit. Fortunately, they did not fire him -- just moved him to a different group.

The [she-wolf] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwbBz59lIQo) bitch!

A little self-control will save most men from falling into the trap. But again there are pussies who cannot control themselves and are always surrounded with female co-workers.

Tldr; don't fuck em like em or put up with their shit.

Frame gentleman frame

Great post, especially for those of us in professional office settings. Unique material.

I have one question: how do you deal with women bosses that shame? I am not sure how to react to "Your Boss trick 3: Shame.' From what I see, you can take it, or you can defend yourself (usu. contradict the person), or you can apologize. What do you recommend? I think Laws of Power might recommend not doing anything to make your superior hate you.

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I will not work for a woman boss. Forget it. I don't need my financial progress impeded by unpredictable hormones. I don't care if they are 15 or 50.

Don't dip your wick in the company ink. I have done plenty of girls after they left. But hey, you're spending more weekday waking hours around the office girls than with your plates. So be wise and treat them as unavailable to you.

Personal story: a female colleague of mine mentioned that women are catty and backstabbing toward each other in the work place. I chimed in saying that I had read a study (co-authored by a man and a woman no less) which found that 100% female groups are less effective than than groups of 100% men. BAM! reported to HR by another woman who overheard. She had a rep as a person who cries misogyny, so nothing happened but still...

Lesson learned: don't say anything remotely critical of women in the work place

I work under bunch of women in managerial positions.

It is horrible.

One would constantly give me "deer in headlights" look if I just asked questions and would personally look at it like I'm questioning her intelligence. I even got blamed for her incompetence once where she said I was late on delivering when I did it on time.

I also got called in the office because I apparently raised my voice at a female coworker, which was false. I got called in to speak to a manager and had no clue wtf she was talking about. I felt like I was in intervention.

Separate incident. When some bitch was badmouthing me, writing handwritten notes not to leave any traces of her emailing about me and make an effort to talk loudly about me to others, I went in and talked to a female manager and said it was unprofessional.

In the next few days, I get called in for " performance review" and get absolutely annihilated. Turns out the bitch badmouthing is manager's spy. I stopped sharing anything with my coworkers and management is just a bunch of faggots.

Next time I get an update on my performance , myself and few others on the email are blamed on how our performance IMPROVED SO DRASTICALLY, and how is she supposed to explain that to her management?

Same bitch took away my bonus, patted me on the back and said in a condescending tone that I got my "raise". My work performance was good, but I got destroyed in the rating scale of 1-5 on bullshit like " knows company's vision?. "The raise was to keep up with inflation and everyone got it.

I work for a small business that has been around for a while (10+ years). Both of the owners and the business manager are men. No complaints here. My female coworkers are actually pretty cool (one is annoying as fuck, but is well-intentioned). The subordinates (almost all women) are a disaster. I just avoid them like the plague and bring any issues to the attention of my boss.

Interestingly, I had a female supervisor when I was in the military. It was a complete disaster. She was terrible. And talk about a shitty situation. I ended up getting out of the military because of my dealings with that bitch.

Good post, this all seems familiar... As in it tracks with my workplace experiences. (I'm probably a bit too old for this sub.) I've had one very good lady boss. I think the only female boss I've ever had. And damn if we didn't almost take a roll in the hay. Being married I said no, thanks. And continued a very good work relationship. Female subordinates, ouch, I learned some hard lessons over the years, in terms of awalt, very much so. Once you understand that, managing women becomes much easier to do. Women react and behave differently than men, generally speaking.

Experiencing boss trick #2 for the past month. Decided yesterday I'll only be checking email first thing in the morning and just straight up ignore anything she "requests". One thing at a time from here out.

One of the best posts I've read on trp imo. Well put.

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Do not flirt with your colleague's wives. The power you get from the support of your team is far great to endanger with such rash behavior

If you make the effort to be very polite to the point of being standoffish, you'll make a better impression on everyone.

This can get you introduced to colleagues' wives female friends and that's not a bad thing. Flirting once removed is fair game.

One more thing I'd like to add: If word spreads that you have a habit of harassing female co-workers, you will never be hired for anything but a low position. Your career growth basically dies.

This was a quality post. Useful content. Thank you.

My two cents. Everything in from the OP sits in a great category being tell the truth and being straight/fair/not-an-asshole with all of your answers. don't flirt with colleague's wives .... duh

I agree that women try to bully out answers they do not like and that will cause them pressure on deadlines. "why can't it be Friday?" after saying three times it will be Monday. I have had several women bosses but only had one earn my respect. the other ones were less qualified for their jobs than a huge handful of people.

peers - I find the higher the number of women in a team, the less functional the team becomes, even more so when you start putting in "supervisors" at the team level. this is not a knock, it is just a plain observation from someone who works around a lot of women. I mean like 60-75% women, including my boss, which is the really good boss I mentioned above.

to repeat some rules and expand:

1. NEVER socialize with a woman at work. "Good Morning". "Have a great Night". and work/project talk is all. that's it. they store up information like ammo and use it when they get attacked. HR (Ran mostly by women) ENCOURAGE the smallest reporting in a Nazi fashion. they live for it. my boss years ago was reported to be dating a subordinate (dumbest of the dumbest). in the whirlwind of a bunch of women trying to live out their deepest LIFE TIME MOVIE OF THE WEEK fantasy, they interview me. my response is "I am unable to validate any of the things you are asking me." and I just repeated. they at one point tried to play "bad cop" and threatened my job if I could not validate. I had to actually sign and say "at this point, with the implications you are making and punishments you are leveling at my employment with this company, I feel that I should call an attorney before we go any further." at which point they released me ... without apology of their actions. end of story. he was fired. the women he was having an affair with got a promotion. she immediately (and i mena within two weeks) started dating .... her new manager. I SHIT YOU NOT!!!

2. EVERYTHING IN WRITING. Almost all the women I work with like to play this phone game. They want everything from you in writing so they can print it out if you are wrong. they want everything they do to be conversation and phone ... so it is "he said/she said" when she is wrong. ALWAYS get EVRYTHING is writing.

You know, work is easy. you get up, you do your job, you go home. Men do this pretty well. Women actually can do this very well too. it does seem on the whole though that a significant percentage MORE of women are just bad workers when it comes to project work. lazy. do just enough. more concerned about their next job than the work in front of them. entitled. thought this was a sit around and do nothing job. same problem that men with poor work habits have, just much more frequent.

I will say this though. I don't mind bad workers (men or women) because they make me look like a superstar.

I see you can't get anything done on time.

Fuck just reading that made me pissed. You're a strong man, I probably would have smiled then but planned an escape to another job then put a virus on the network before I left.

In addition to the 4 female Boss tricks above: don't forget

5 The completely irrational psycho behaviours that will defy all logic.

I have been in the unfortunate position of working for female managers in the (mangina / politically correct) public sector. You probably guessed it was a nightmare and I will never be repeating it.

My advice: Don't ever work for a female boss!

After 20 plus years in corporate land (fortunately mostly working on trading floors which are male-dominated environments) my experience has dictated that you don't work for them, don't work with them, don't have them work for you, and definitely do not engage with them socially. Keep at ten-foot pole length at all times. Interaction is just not worth the hassle/risk.

Readers interested in this topic may also find this beneficial: CorporateLand: Working With Working Women In The Modern Corporate Environment

Long story short. Stay the fuck away from women at work.

You are there to work.

You know where to go to get pussy.

I have had two female bosses.

One was in her mid-30s, cool as shit and stayed out of my way and let me do my thing and was nothing but a positive presence when I needed her. She was a very hard worker and lobbied to get me moved from a contractor to a full time permanent. When some of my female coworkers were being cunts, my boss would even make "misogynistic" comments to me about how women let their emotions control them. She'd come out to the bar with me my coworkers sometimes too.

The other was in her late 20s and was kind of a bitch. It was always very obvious where in her menstrual cycle she was, and she'd even tell my team of 5 men that it was very hard for her as a woman to be in charge of 5 men. If one of us fucked up, she would take things personally and I find myself apologizing to her. It was incredibly humiliating and dehumanizing. Needless to say I only lasted there for 2 months before quitting. Female boss was one of the reasons.

So my point is that it really depends on the woman. Some make great bosses, some make terrible bosses. Fortunately I have a male boss and he's pretty alpha so shit runs efficiently and I'm happy.

I'm glad that I work for myself and don't have to deal with such bullshit. It's way tougher though than working a normal job, but I never handled being subordinate to women well. It was always unnatural to me.

When I was working normal jobs I witnessed the 180 from friendly female colleague in your face while backstabbing someone multiple times. Women are pros at social manipulation and it's a tough game to win for guys that aren't natural born psychopaths.

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Very helpful post. Thank you

I find most people in the office are easily won with a little charm... especially women who find me attractive. However, lesbians are apparently my big weakness.

I'm not sure how much to attribute to bad luck, but generally lesbians I've encountered were man hating to such a degree, that I felt my best action was to avoid them, and hope my straight females I've charmed can keep me safe.

It's difficult to resist gaming women at work, especially when there are so few fuck-able ones amidst the office-chair syndrome whales. I think this is just the post I needed to keep me from shoving my Jimmy Dean into one of my peers.

However, I'll be leaving this job soon. Am I clear to game this chick after I leave for a new job?