Ownership is a good motif for this without feeling lame or like you're keying your own car.

There is a difference between 'hate fucking' and rough, dominant sex. I have done both. You have correctly identified that the key to pulling either off is adopting the right mind set and attitude.

Rough, dominant sex is about asserting physical control over her while simultaneously signalling loss of control over yourself. It is about communicating 'you make me so hot that I can't control my base instinct to throw you down and fuck you the way I want/need.' It is about exhibiting your unrestrained passion for her. Choking can be part of that sexual aggression.

You can add sexual humiliation into the mix by playing into the taboo of the 'dirty girl who loves (your) cock.' Instead of thinking of your girl as a 'dumb slut' (which is in fact truly hateful and demeaning of her intelligence), think of her as a 'dirty, horny slut' who will do anything to get your cock inside her, because she wants and needs it so bad. If even that is difficult to reconcile in your head, you can depersonalize it by thinking/saying things like 'your pussy is soaking itself for my cock.' That way it's her pussy that's the horny slut, not her. This gives her a safe space to set aside her inhibitions and beg/scream in bed. Now, remember, she is a slut for you because of how she desires you. She wouldn't act that way with anyone else...only for the cock of the man that she desires and loves.

None of the above has anything to do with hate fucking. Hate fucking is about expressing the cognitive dissonance that comes with sharing emotional and sexual intimacy with someone who you have ambivalent feelings about (i.e. Both hate and love). It is about punishing her for having a hold over you. Hate fucking is almost always damaging to a relationship and very difficult to pull off, and it sounds like that's not what you are after here anyway.

Just like sharks and spiders are naturally included to be aggressive during coitus it isn't surprising that females which are genetically submissive to alphas love a good power fuck and to be manhandled. It's fulfilling for their feral and primitive subconscious. Females and males aren't all that complicated if you've witnessed nature in its pure and unfiltered state. We've just gotten too caught up with the 21st century bullshit we're surrounded by to remember the reality we originate from. I often find myself comparing the privileges we take for granted here in the U.S. and how people behave as if everyone saw reality the same way. Some people are just too thick headed to realize that although anger , fear and love are part of our nature to see through them is to see the nature of reality itself. It's all in your head. You're an observer and you make your own reality, so if you're unhappy with it you need to change your lens. The red pill and masculinism are lens that work for the 21st century hedonist, just as feminism is the lens that applies and works for the 21st century female that wants to enjoy her sexuality, yet take advantage of the dogma that men must provide for women. If everyone saw shit as what it is anarchy would arise and chaos would erupt. But that's in a society in which males embrace their testosterone and females embrace their submissive nature.

This is one of the reasons I use escorts, no more worrying about putting on some facade to cater to someone who isn't really worth catering to.

If I feel like going rough and taking out some aggression I do but if I feel like going gentle and sensual I do, because it's all about me. I don't have to care if I fucked her right or not, don't matter

try this one: "You like that, you fucking retard?" Guaranteed orgasm

Years ago I had broken up with a girl under really shitty circumstances and for a long time afterwards she wanted to reconcile but I was still bitter. It may not have amounted to a full blown hate fucking but we would get together and it would be rough anal sex: pants down, bent over, face to the bed and up the ass dry.

Her comment: "I feel like I'm home!"

The fuck?

Two weeks ago I got together with my now ex-girlfriend for what was basically goodbye sex. (The FWB dynamic might still be on the table, but we live in different cities and don't have cause to travel to the other).

Anyways, we are going at it and grab her throat - with a firm grip but I don't apply any pressure - and I ask her: "Do you want me to be more gentle or do you want me to be rough." She meekly says rough so I tell her "then say it; tell you want it rough!" So with a bit of coaxing she crying out loudly: "I want it rough! I want it rough!"

I was happy to provide. . .and there was much rejoicing.

Example 3 was my first LTR who was an absolute sweetheart, innocent and all that. A buddy of mine was over at our apartment and we were sharing drinks. He starts clowning about and asking what her pet name for my penis was. Then he says "I know, It's The Punisher!"

We all have a good laugh, he eventually leaves, and she and I get into bed. We start making out and out of the blue she rolls over, face to the pillow and ass in the air and starts chanting: "Punish me! Punish me!"

Another girl, within an hour of meeting, takes me back to her apartment. She had a chin up bar installed in the archway between the living room and the kitchen. Given that she wasn't a hard body and probably couldn't even do a single chin up, I asked "What's that for?"

"It's to tie me up to, silly."

And that set the stage for the whole evening.

Examples abound but bloopers hamster it away with something like "You attract insecure women", or my favorite: "I don't know any girls who are like that!"

"Yeah...you like that, you fucking retard?"

It actually weirds me the fuck out sometimes, because I'm all into my belief of "do no harm" and "think good thoughts" and Buddhist style "right livelihood". But I guess you have to give the people what they want...

That's probably the biggest mindfuck for a "Nice Guy", beta man unplugging to the red pill. At least it was for me.

I strived all my life to be good, to be kind, to be genuine. I treated girls great. And guys great. I treated everyone great. I didn't feel like I was a doormat or giving in covert contracts. My motto was just "I'm not on this earth to make anyone worse off after interacting with me". Not only did it just make "sense", but it's the message you hear 100% of the time from parents, teachers, girls, everyone. Raised atheist, I found in Pacifism, Humanism and Buddhism the spiritual guidances that matched my existing prejudice. Of course gays deserve equal right, so I was a gay-right advocate. Of course women deserve equal rights, so I was a feminist. Of course I was also not very successful with women... Again, not that I was being a doormat. I was just very kind. With a girlfriend I'd never have a fight, never a conflict. Yet I'd always get dumped fairly fast.

Then I discovered they liked rough sex; being choked and slapped. Being physically and mentally abused, "just for play. Only during sex" of course. Well that was weird. Weirder even; that improved my relationships. Then I discovered through the red pill they like to be submissive to a dominant male in all aspects of the relationship. That's very weird, that's against everything they say. Yet weirder: I haven't been dumped ever since...

Anti-red-pill people and other feminists hate us. They describe us as misogynists; that we hate women. I don't hate them. Only that I do not respect them anymore. And for that they love me. But you know what? I hate it. A lifetime of being raised and self-developing into being respectful and kind can't be erased overnight. The disrespectful version of me is just an act I put. But I have to act list this if I want sex and love. It sickens me.

There is a famous dirty french song dating 1789 that finishes with these verses:

"La morale de cette histoire, C'est qu'les hommes sont des cochons."

"La morale de cette morale, C'est qu'les femmes aiment les cochons."

Which translates roughly in:

"The moral of this story is that men are pigs."

"The moral of this moral is that women love pigs."

Well then; I'll be a pig.

I remember a couple of years ago I was fucking a girl, and in the middle of the act I put my hand over her mouth and didn't move it away until I finished a few minutes later. She said that it was hot and that I should do it again.

I acted like I did it because I knew she'd like the dominance, but in reality I had spent the entire day with her and literally could not handle her voice for another fucking minute.

Coconut oil. Its gods gift to men. Lube up your johnson and send him to war. Not only can you skip warming her up, but it makes some magical film that will seriously make you last as long as you want. My problem when I rough fuck is how damn good it feels, and cant sustain. Now I can go until my legs and core give out. Its like 5$ for a life supply at the groccery store, invest and good luck.

Excellent thread, I don't often post, but thanks OP for sharing your ideas! Very intriguing think think through

 

Devil's Advocate Movie:

https://youtu.be/h1wUyooWBtU

 

Dad fucks Mary Ann... on a scale of one to ten... an eleven.

Women have a deep desire to be obliterated. Surrender is a kind of willingness to die right there with your dick inside her.

It's definitely weird, but it's the way women orgasm.

This is also why Mohammed could behead the fathers and brothers of women from the tribe of Medina and then have those women have sex immediately after they saw it happen and them orgasm into accepting new males as rulers over them. Women are naturally the spoils of war.

In the old days women were captured, raped, and made slaves... it's in their biology.

Modern women miss being raped on a sexual level while on the conscious level they speak about political correctness. It's a complete contradiction.

50 Shades of Gray.

 

I'm guessing she told you because she wants you to do it again.

It makes sense from a caveman perspective. A woman's biological predisposition is to mate with the strongest, most dominant male they can as that would have the heartiest genes to pass on to their offspring and that male would best be able to provide and protect them and their offspring.

This also explains why 'nice guys' get dumped quickly or rejected in the first place. As men doll out affection freely and without merit, and seek approval / permission from their partners, they subconsciously elevate their mate above themselves in the social / sexual pecking order. When this occurs the impression of dominance is lost, and along with it goes any biological attraction that resulted from that cavewoman disposition mentioned above.

I've been in a LTR for a year and a half and i still hate-fuck my girlfriend. I'll call her a worthless whore, tell her that I only keep her around as a fucktoy, etc. Anything that would piss her off outside of sex is fair game. Anything that's an immediate relationship ender outside of sex is where i draw the line. There was one time i even starting moaning her friend's name (I've never moaned my girlfriend's name once) and she started crying near instantly, 30 seconds later she came harder than i've ever seen.

Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.

... is that I'm trying to figure out how I can gear myself up to hate-fuck my LTR who I've gotten comfortable with and who I want to maybe have kids with some day, who is someone that I care for and mostly respect, but who I can tell is starting to itch for a good rough-fucking.

Fuck her like life itself depended on it (it does).

Remind yourself that she is a pig and pigs are happiest when wallowing in the muck and filth.

Actually, remind her that she is a pig. Call her every dirty word and make her acknowledge it. Let her know that you know, and her knowing that you know will make her OK with it herself.

Most importantly, get inside her head about her limits. It's your job to stretch them (within reason). For example, my ex had a thing about getting hair on her tongue. She hated it. It made her gag. Even the thought of eating a hair freaked her out. So what did I do? I trained her to submit to me. When she was deep in sub space I'd have her deep throat me and swallow, then lick and polish my pubes with her tongue for 10 minutes. Thank me for giving her the opportunity to serve. After that she'd move down and massage the balls with tongue and she even got into rimming but that is beside the point.

The point is that her limit was hair on the tongue. In the right context that limit went away. I provided the right context.

Women pretend to be prim and proper but they really are pigs. Moreso than men, IMO. Men want to defile but women want to be defiled, which is far more dirty, bless 'em!

You think these chicks have issues when you just start calling her a dumb fucking slut for no reason out of the blue?

Not white knighting, just thought that part was funny.

Amen brother. Caring and good sex have an inverse relationship. It's terrible, we want to "make love" to a woman but genetically she is programmed to want a hairy muscly dude ravage her after he has defeated all the other males. I've never done the choking thing, but one of my FWB's from a few years back told me the exact same shit "the other day i was thinking what great sex we had that night", i'm thinking the one where we banged 3 times after work and i made her a great half-time dinner while she was blowing me, "you know when you popped in at like 4am that saturday". I didn't even recall most of that uneventfull night, drunkenly stumbled from the AW to the club, didn't pull so i rang her cause it was closer than my place, fell on my ass at least 3 times during sex from fatigue and alcohol, pretty sure i accidentally fucked her in the ass and was rough because i just wanted to finish fast and sleep which of course is impossible with wine-dick. "Really? I was drunk and tired, couldn't have been that great", nah, what a guy views as degrading and complete disregard is viewed by her as positive. I've tried since to be rough on purpose, doesn't work. It has to be a heartfelt and earnest DGAF-if-you-are-human state of mind, then she will love it.

love, not hate, you channel your love and desire for who she is and what she is. eventually she'll figure out that you don't love her, that you're just faking it, and the relationship will collapse and you'll blame awalt, like every other post on here that's like yada yada yada, she turned on me, awalt boys.

it's like you have your hand in the water and you can feel something in your hand, but you're not yet sure what it is. "what thoughts can i be channeling, what thoughts should i be channeling?", beta, seeking permission. "what is going on inside me, is moving through me, and how do i want to express it right now", alpha, self assurance. beating her or hate fucking her is because you think that's what turns her on, that's like fast food and she'll just get bored and "upgrade" from mcburgers to pukeburgers to shitburgers until she dies from poisoning herself, and you're just a rung on that ladder. you love a girl? give her what she needs, what you both need, not what makes her feel good, not what's easier or what you think she wants you to do, force it on her if that's what she needs.

do you even care about her, do you even see her as a human being? do you understand what it is that she needs, why she needs you to put her hands on her throat and why it makes her feel loved? or do you just wanna put the dick in.

"Open your holes for me, you little slutty cunt. That's what you are you know, a hole for my cock. Be a good hole. That's right, reach back and spread it for me. Tell me what you are. Say it. Where do you want me to fuck you? Where? I can't hear you. You are made to be stuffed full of cock, aren't you? Aren't you?! Say it! Be a dirty whore for me or I won't fuck you. etc etc etc"

My girls all love this kind of talk. I mean really love this kind of talk. It goes on from there but I don't want to turn this post into a porn thread.

In this way I offer them complete respect, love, and admiration. I love them at their most basic, their rutting whore natures. It's only when I try and get them to love me romantically that it all falls to shit.

I think I can help. Basically, I once banged a girl who asked for this and I literally could not. It was my second time and I was 14.

Now I realize that all women really are dumb sluts. Not even in a bad way. It's like understanding your dog is stupid. You still live your dog more than most humans but it's still a dumb ass dog. Even when he is smart he's still a stupid dog.

So now I actually get off on acting on this truth. It feels good. Like I can stop the fake act and be real for a shirt while.

You are here. I assume you have read a bit. It shouldn't be hard to treat a woman like a dirty whore who is one fuckup away from screwing you over and ducking another man.

It's all in the mind. You can't hate fuck her cause for some reason you believe she isn't a dirty whore. You have to realize she is, cause she is a woman.

Edit: The fact that you are worried about what is okay to say speaks volumes. Your previous literally explains how that kind of thinking doesn't help and just doing what you feel is what gets results.

Sounds like you are slipping into beta think to me. Back then, you didn't worry about how she felt about your words and actions and she absolutely loved it. So why are you expecting the same results from suddenly caring and keeping it pg 13 and shit?

Fuck these hos OP. After reading so many stories on the inter webs and just dealing with bitches in real life. I have serious and I mean serious trust issues when it comes to these bitches. Especially knowing there are probably multiple bitches out there getting thoroughly fucked like your girl or whatever and are pretty much damaged goods. Some of these bitches are getting pummeled out here.

I fuck the mother of my children like that all the time. Nothing wrong with it at all.

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Here I am again, continuing with the avuncular adages: love and hate are not opposites.

Can't believe nobody else is saying this.

The real opposites are love and indifference. You have passion, you don't have hate for this chick.

From your other thread, you were talking up some good, very good qualities of hers, and some negatives as well. I was going to say over there, you can LTR a high quality woman who is not perfect--just ignore her bad behavior. Occupy yourself with life, of which she is just a part.

My life is mine, I do what I want. So when I want to fuck long and hard I do. I am actually, like you, still amazed when I do something that seems borderline degrading (or even way over the line) and get a positive reaction from it.

Well, I'm going to seem like I'm contradicting myself here, as in your last post I said I regretted staying married (which I still do), but... I don't know. I've been in the field all day, I'm tired, forgive me.

...what I'm going to say is, it is possible to have an LTR with a high quality woman, who is not perfect, and not be miserable, and you can continue to have hot, energetic, insane, continually renewing hot sex way into your 50s.

Also, there isn't really any contradiction or conflict between TRP and Buddhism. As I said in another comment, they are both about seeing beyond illusion and desire.

I clicked into some weird shit, but it was still fun and entertaining :D

It's not about anger. It's about emotional content.

To me, there's no need for there to be any malice or anything to do this even if I love the other person. Sometimes it just turns me on more to be a complete savage, so I act like a savage. It feels great to just let go and be an animal for a little while.

Raises eyebrows ???????????????? classsic

You almost choke her to death.

1. She surrenders to you. She respects you.

2. and you don't kill her. She knows she can rely on you.

3. and all the time she completely belongs to you. And you take her all the way through, and what she's feeling is, that you completely take care of her. Doesn't matter what you know.

You can bring her roses, she can promise you anything, nothing verbal is as strong as this kind of experience. You can be an asshole, if you can take somebody through this stuff, it works more than thousand words. If you stuff your cock into her mouth, it's something different, because you just use her and she feels it like that, especially if she has feminist traits. You need to virtually kill somebody and then save his life. Call it Stockholm syndrome, whatever, this is how human brain works.

Yet with all this, we're supposed to also believe that rape is like the worst thing a woman could experience.

How does one protect themselves from sexual assault allegations when the girl has regrets or reservations after the fact? Whether she feels ashamed when she tells her friends or guilty because her boyfriend doesn't make her feel that way?

You know how if that certain guy at work asks to borrow $5 and even though you could you just say you dont have it?

Then theres that guy that you over hear across the room asking if anyone has $20 he could borrow and your more than happy to lend it to him?

Woman are like that when it comes to rough sex.

If shes not that into you shes going to pretend shes not into all that rough stuff.

If shes into you? You probably cant ever be rough enough.

Can confirm, I've been with 3 girls and it's always the same thing, if we have nice, gentle sex it's still a good experience. But if we have rough sex and I choke her, she has multiple orgasms with full body quivering and is usually enthusiastic about round 2-3.

It's not just about that. I think a woman should be man's emotional tampon (probably why betas who are taking up that role are so unattractive), a healer. I am there to suck up all the negative energy and heal him. He's supposed to spill all his shit on me (not literally) and feel better after seeing me. Sometimes it's emotional stuff and I will listen. With rough sex it's about him letting out his frustrations and anger out by being aggressive towards me. With blowjobs it's about him letting go and enjoying after being in charge of everything.

It also makes me feel attractive and desirable. Women know that men have this need to be dominant and that "Please, can I cum" is to much self-control. When he's dominant I feel accomplished because he was attracted and felt comfortable enough to lose control. There's more comfort in rough sex and dominant man because only then he's showing his true nature and I feel good that he can share that with me.

This is why most relationship advice women give is "Be yourself".

You should think about all the things that annoyed you, that you got angry about and just unleash that on her. You don't need to hate or disrespect her. It doesn't need to be about seeing her as a whore, it's about seeing her as someone who's there to suck up all those frustrations.

This is why women nag so much. I think they are just trying to cause anger in hope it would translate into rough sex.

You dumb slut. You dumb fucking slut." And she just got more and more into it and so would I.

This has been my experience with most girls. Its the truth. Women are ashamed of themselves for the same reason there's anger on the redpill. Its cathartic and spiritual to be treated with honesty. Sweet tender love makes them guilty and then resentful. Rouugh degrading sex leaves them purged and thankful

Women love being dominated. This is something betas will never understand.

Healthy relationships go through stages biologically. Early they are driven by adrenaline (danger and excitement). You need to prove your worth as a man and prove to her you can protect her. By choking her, you prove you have power over her but refrain from taking her life.

After, you have to move into the oxytocin (nice, comfy loving) phase. This is where most people fuck up. Men who don't know how to be a calm patriarch become weak and pussified by the good feelings that success and fatherhood bring and letting their wife dominate the domestic sphere. For mastery here, look to figures in the Bible and characters like Michael Corleone. Never stop working out, but ease off if you're a beast and a beefcake. But ultimately: find your place in the world and grow up. Become that boring, rich, competent guy at the golf club.

The best way to go forward isn't to rely on the adrenaline phase, it's to master the oxytocin phase. Otherwise, your relationship will spiral into divorce. Divorce has been on the rise in no small part because of the media emphasis on adrenal sex while snarking patriarchs in the domestic sphere.

LOL at the picture. You don't need to have thoughts of hate. Just have caveman thoughts. Masculine thoughts. Heavy dominance is just a part of embracing your inner caveman instincts.

This surprised me too with my LTR of 4 years. Everything was pretty vanilla. Some spanking would turn her on, some hair pulling, just mild shit, I really didn't know better. At the time I thought that just by lasting longer in bed I was a 'sex god'.

But luckily I stumbled across 'Sex God Method' (and TRP) and it opened my eyes. I think me and my LTR were arguing + her period so we didn't have sex for like 2 weeks. I was also edging during that time so my sexual energy was on overdrive. Reading SGM and having this built up sexual energy I dominated my girl. Choked her, made her call me 'sir', telling her shit like 'I bet your pussy really missed being fucked by my dick, you're such a dirty girl' and damn, she loved it. My LTR went from me trying to negotiate sex, me always initiating / etc. to her begging to come over and sending nude vids / etc. I fucking love it.

I've pretty much always known I'm into rough sex even from the beginning of my time discovering porn at an early age. It's the only thing that gets me off anymore.

Having said this I've done a lot of research into what the bdsm community does and stands for. First of just kind to say choking is hot, makes the girls experience of the sex better due to the lack of oxygen going to her brain, but it is also dangerous. There is no sure fire way to know if what you are doing will kill her in 30 seconds or right now. Also there is nothing less sexy than a trip to the ER. That being said, there are so many other things you can do to get girls off and indulge in making her a submissive slut.

Spanking as you mentioned is great. Id like to add to this biting the nipple. I usually will start by sucking her tits and then applying light pressure with my teeth and just a bit of a bite and slowly work your way up to bigger and more forceful bites. She'll probably "hate it" but we know that's bullshit.

If you're into it, get some rope. You don't need to be a pro rigger and suspend her from the ceiling, just go on YouTube and look up twisted monk two column tie, and single column tie. If you're cool about talking to her about it before hand and getting her excited to try new things with you this is a great option. Practice before hand on your own ankles that way you don't stumble through trying to do it during sex. Make sure there is a fingers worth of space between the rope and the skin and tell her if she feels pins and needles in her hands/feet to let you know and untie her immediately.

I'd suggest anyone who has these tenancies of getting forceful with women learn more about BDSM because the community if full of info about how to have safe rough sex and they're very open about it and want people to learn the proper techniques. Do note though, they're not the typical red piller type usually, there's a lot of feminists.

Hope this helped! Reply if you have any questions on where to start looking for info.

I do want to touch upon the thought aspect of your post.

You really shouldn't hate the girl you're with. If you truly hated her you should dump her. Do it because you know she loves it, because you love it. It's not hate you're expressing, it's raw desire, passion, lust. You should be thinking this is what i want, this is what you want, and we both know it. There is no hate in that, only love. The idea that this is hate fucking comes from an insecurity that you can't do this and still love her. If you love her, and she loves how you're fucking her, there is no hate.

At first I struggled with this concept. I thought I was going to be a rapist. I thought that these desires would cause me to hurt women. I understand now that it's not true, that you can have sex like this and have her love it. And there's nothing better than being with someone who wants me to do this to her.

This is just the whole Madonna-Whore thing, writ small.

You think of rough, dominant sex as something you do out of hate, so you're uncomfortable doing it to a woman you love. "Whores" deserve that treatment, but, to you, "good girls" don't.

That's your fundamental error. Rough sex isn't about destroying a woman... it's about dominating her. You hurt her to coerce her into submitting, not to wreck her. That's the answer that girl was telling you... you used violence to force her to submit, not to kill her.

This is the fundamental underpinning of female sexuality. They wish to be subjugated, not destroyed. They cannot easily ask to be subjugated, because they fear destruction. So the fantasy is to be dominated, coerced, owned, but to be able to escape the danger of destruction by the act of submitting and humbling themselves.

Feminists see sex as inherently a violent, coercive, predatory act of conquest. Guess what? They are right. It's supposed to be like that... and healthy men and women are wired to find their respective roles fucking hot.

You are not hurting your woman, you are owning her. She's your property. Make sure she knows it.

Anyone who tells you that women don't like rough sex has a shit sex life. Straight up. Period.

No woman will tell you "Oh I love how gentle and polite you are in bed."

I got into the habit of almost exclusively having rough sex with an LTR once. She liked it, a lot, until she grew kind of tired of it. Because she knew that basically every time we banged, it'd be that intense. I don't really know the word to use: exhausting maybe? Like, I dunno, sometimes I'd rather watch a comedy or documentary than an action movie.

I learned that it's best to keep an element of surprise and not to overtax her. If she doesn't quite know when the sex will be rough, there is surprise, a tension of sorts, and women love that.

Try to channel the domination of your woman. Or think of time she pissed you off, it's what I do. It's hard to hate your girl when you love her.

Yes yes I know it's just your turn. AWALT etc.

I had a recent plate who loved a bit of aggressiveness in bed. Light choking and dominating her etc. One night we were getting really into it and I said something along the lines of "you like that my slut?" The next day she said she doesn't want to see me anymore because I called her that. So be careful. Some girls will let you treat them like a slut in bed the actual word comes loaded with negative emotions and stigma and so they may not want to be called it. I always treated her well and never shamed her at all and never asked what her n-count was, but I guess she just had a big hang-up with that word.

The dark side of the force is a source to many powers, some may call... unnatural. -When you realize the Emperor is RP

I've been reading about how women like rough sex, hair pulling, ass slaps, dirty talk etc for a long time. I was a virgin until three years ago, so it's all pretty new to me to begin with.

With that said I'm not a natural at these rougher parts of sex, so they're a bit weird for me. A girl I've been seeing here loves dirty talk. It comes out for me when I drink a bit, so she's always thrilled when we bang when I'm buzzed up. The first time I pulled her hair when I was hitting it from the back she went fucking ape shit, she was screaming and moaning like I've never heard before. Afterward she was raving about how much she loved it when I pulled her hair.

So it's anecdotal, but it's definitely been confirmed in some of my experiences. It's a bit weird but I'm trying to adapt to each girl/scenario as needed.

All I read was the choking part and I knew you and your sig other chick are fucking idiots. Please seek help. Do u hav any idea how ridiculas you sound? Rethorical question.

Whenever you're fucking her. Just remember AWALT. And that she will make Sam wait , whilst for Chad she doesn't even spare a second. Think about the fucked up things women do to survive. Then you're good to go.