So there is this popular sub and this girl just posted this. She basically sleeps with a dude a couple of times and when she realizes that he does not want to commit to being boyfriend and girlfriend like in the movies, inner hamster switches to defense mode. She literally says the first time she slept with him he raped her.
A few months ago, I was at my friend's house (I was sort of seeing this guy without the title of a relationship) and we've had sex multiple times before. Right before we actually had sex, I'm not sure why but I just started panicking s bit and decided I didn't want to. I was try to push him off me and I kept saying "No please stop I can't do this" and I was crying but he pushed on through with it. Here's the thing, after about 20/30 seconds of not listening to me I just kinda gave up and let him have sex with me. Because of this, I can't tell if this situation was rape or not, because I did stop protesting.
I kinda got over it and we remained friends and just recently I came to the realization he made me believe all that was my fault. He was saying things like "YOU should be more clear" or "YOU should have done this to stop me" and it's kinda really messed me up. The last few nights I've been losing sleep and staying up on the verge of a panic attack and crying my eyes out.
I only told my closest friends but I feel like it isn't enough. I'm debating going to my university's victim service but I'm scared of a few things: 1. The possibility this isn't actually rape because I stopped protesting 2. It being too long (months ago) 3. The school acting on it and ruining his reputation.
I don't know what to think of this whole situation. People are telling me I need to tell someone because it isn't fair how it's messing me up mentally. Thoughts please?
The sub is filled with a horde of feminists and sjws telling her that she should go report this rape. Understand this next time you stick your dick in a girl that you have no intention of dating. That dudes life is just about to change and he does not even know it.
Tl:DR stick to escorts
103342 9y ago
I used to know a girl that was raped. I mean, really raped. She was going out of a party at a university campus at night alone, the campus is around a kind of a forest from every side, a guy grabbed her and pushed her to the bushes and fucked her at knife point.
When this happened I wasn't really close with her anymore, just friends of friends kind of thing.
From what I heard, she couldn't fucking leave the house, she got depressed, gained a bunch of weight, then got into prescription medine, lost a bunch of weight. Stopped going to the university all together. Got into therapy, changed therapists all the time...
What I mean is. This girl wasn't in doubt if she was raped or not. Before she got raped she knew it was going to happen, during the rape she knew she was being raped and after the rape she fucking knew for sure she was raped.
Putting this girl in the same category as the slut in this story doesn't make sense to me.
People are starting not take rape seriously anymore in the west, women will be the one to pay the highest price from the moment the idea of "false rape allegation" becomes mainstream on.
666mafioso 9y ago
You can thank all the bitches that didn't want to face their own problems and consequences to their actions, and instead claimed "rape". This law was made with good intention, and like every other law, it has been manipulated and gamed until this issue has polarized everybody. This is also why the legal system employs so many people and is a lucrative industry. In the end, nobody really wins and the whole purpose of "justice" becomes convoluted and lost in all the paperwork
It ain't gonna change anytime soon, so get used to the ride. Both sides will be fucked literally (women being raped, and men being raped when they get thrown in prison) and metaphorically while some dumb bitch is continuing to ride the CC and pretend like she didn't screw someone's life over. And vice versa. It takes a lot of energy allocation into productive projects, working out, and sex for me to not start a fucking vigilante militia and start decapitating these fucks and putting their heads on city hall fences.
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Sounds like a legitimate rape.
Forcetobereckonedwit 9y ago
If you burned the toast, it was rape for sure.
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That's right. Rape is a fucking terrible tragedy. If you have to ask a bunch of strangers on the Internet if you were technically raped or not then I've got news for you: you weren't. The true problem is that one false allegation can ru in a man's life. I remeber discussing the case of mattress girl on Facebook and how blatantly it was a lie. The post got spammed by girls saying we were evil for even questioning it and we ended up deleting the entire post.
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Anymore rape has become an excuse for over used cunts to claim after shitty sex or a slight case of the feels. There's a post on here about cooking for bitches. A rape victim won't stay and eat with her attacker. I've used this method once, but cooked the breakfast cuz I was a beta, ended up working because later she told everyone I was a total creeper. Could have turned into rape.....
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What?... A man who doesn't know how to cook is not a man. Showing skills in the kitchen is not only the trait of a grown-up, it's also a method employed by a skilled seductor. I personally have a one hundred percent success rate with cooking for bitches.
You are correct about one thing, though, it's all in the delivery, the mind set of the act itself. If you cook like a needy beta she'll think you're her house bitch. If you cook like an alpha, who's in his domain, and give her little tasks, she'll feel dominated. Remember the rule, most behaviors can be both alpha and beta, it's the mindset to which you approach said behavior that makes it alpha or beta.
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The act of cooking isn't so much the focus of the evening as it's the excuse for you to get her alone in your domain and for her to tell herself she's not going to fuck you. When a female comes into a males domain it's either because they are friends or because she sees him as a potential sexual partner. The cooking is just an excuse. Lead her, tell her to chop onions, "get the plates from the cupboard," or to wash off the plate after she's finished. Be assertive, be commanding, this is your territory. Push/pull. Tease her, reject her, play with her emotions. Establish physical contact as soon as possible then capitalize when her guard is down and her lizard brain gives you the "come fuck me eyes," move in for the kill. There's no being a bitch about it if you maintain frame and approach the situation with the right mindset. If you view cooking for a female as weakness then maybe you will project yourself as weak. I, however, do not and am confident in doing so. That's why, for me, it's a go to option for a guaranteed smash.
xx69bootyhunter69xx 9y ago
Even so, the existence of far more extreme cases doesn't disprove that this could have been rape. If the girl had indeed told the guy to stop putting his dick in her, and he still went on, it is objectively rape, dictionary definition wise. Whether or not she doubts it later on is irrelevant (but of course that might become relevant when she is trying to present evidence).
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Please stop that bullshit if she said no its rape. Rape is not a nuissance or a slight predicament like bad weather, its a lethal tsunami. You dont just say no to a tsunami, you do drastic things and resist with all the force you can muster
When a human is coerced into somdthing, you better go out kicking and acreaming. Like in OP's post, the rapist used a knife because he anticipates a real rape is a struggle. So fucking tired of this bullshit of conflating terms for political purposes. Yes rape is an "unpleasant" thing, but primarily it is "one of the worst things that can happen to a person" and "unpleasant" is not nearly enough to describe it, so stop comparing things like pitty-sex to rape.
TrumpHasASmallPenis 9y ago
You can't say it's not rape based on how much she kicked and screamed or didn't kick and scream. Maybe she didn't want to get punched.
All that matters is consent, and if she didn't consent it's rape.
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What a glorious fucktard you are. "Maybe she doesnt want to get punched", yeah so she would rather be raped then? This is exactly my point, you are a virtue signalling retard, your way of thinking treats real rape like some minor nuissance, as if getting punched in the face was worse. Maybe your dads cock was smaller than his nucklering, so u prefered to get fucked rather than beaten?
TrumpHasASmallPenis 9y ago
You should get a degree in projection.
Struggling isn't going to stop the rape, fucktard.
Also please continue. Let the male neckbeard from the TRP explain to those stupid wimmenz how to be raped the right way.
KimJongUntzUntz 9y ago
The guy is a dumbass. I would never stick my dick in a girl who says "no" even once, especially if she is crying.
Do guys not realize we dont have a "pro-rape culture" like most SJW's suggest? In fact, we have a "pro-hey your hurt feelings after the fact totally count as rape" culture; where any girl can ruin any guys life just because she wants to.
TrumpHasASmallPenis 9y ago
That would make her a dumbass for raping her. Not because of being naive or whatever you said about le "sjw" boogeyman.
feminists_are_dumb 9y ago
The point is THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN. She is not even "lying" about it in the way that a normal person might consciously decide to lie to gain an advantage or cover up a misdeed. She is basically ret-conning what happened that night with her new-found of emotions of "fuck this dude in particular".
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Women say no all the time and it is simply a shit test. It's called LMR. Crying though? Most likely this woman is making this up. She got pumped and dumped and her feelings are hurt. She doesn't have the language to explain this because feminists have told her for her entire life that woman love casual sex just as much as men so the only thing she can think is 'rape'.
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Toolman890 9y ago
My immediate thought was that she embellished the story.
BabyFaceElephant 9y ago
When she talks about you being pushy job done, you can joke "I'll stop whenever you want" and maybe even do it to tease her LMR. If she was serious you'll know and it's done, but maybe later it's on. If she wasn't she'll pull your hand down her pants. But a No is a No, and either she's making it up or not. It's in ever RP text I've read on the subject. Regardless if a woman is under/next to you and says No over and over, bro...
cuntbh 9y ago
This sounds like a classic case of he-said/she-said, she says she was crying and saying no, but was that actually what happened, or just what she claimed?
Certainly, if she says no, stop. But if you have consensual sex and she changes her mind the next day and accuses you of rape, you're pretty fucked.
This is why OP said "be very wary of who you stick your dick in", because if you stick your dick in the girl who cries "wolf", you can ruin your life because you had consensual sex.
Mckallidon 9y ago
That's why you always film it so when she cries rape you have documented proof that piglet was screaming MOAR!
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babybopp 9y ago
Not any that, she fucked him on numerous occasions. Now he chose not to date her, she is butthurt and now says she did not consent.
BabyFaceElephant 9y ago
I'm pretty novice, but every time I've escalated it has been shit like "look at you" followed by her pushing closer when I tease and pull back. That's a clear IOI, "No" is not an IOI sorry-not-sorry but if she says that call her an uber and next, don't rape her.
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i 100% agree. if the words "no" are uttered even once GET HER OUT OF THERE. who the fuck wants to risk that shit? i dont care if she's a kinky slut that wants you to rape her, how am i supposed to tell if thats the fucking case or not? remember that louis CK routine about the dumb slut that pretended she didnt wanna fuck him, cause she really wanted him to rape her ? lol. i couldn't believe women like that existed at first, till i read DOZENS of other accounts of it, good lord women are fucked in the head.
Mckallidon 9y ago
Don't send for an uber. Tell her she should probably leave. Some white knight will take her home.
PM_BOOBS_FOR_PUPPIES 9y ago
Love this: "Uber and Next"
Abundance mentality at its finest.
No means no unless you're in a longer term relationship with a previously communicated safe-word. The SJW's won't admit it, but many (many) women like to be "taken" as part of consensual sex. It's a tricky tightrope to walk...one I won't without both her desire and a safe-word of her choosing recorded in writing or verbally.
grewapair 9y ago
You call an uber for someone who sleeps with you. Someone who doesn't can walk home: not your problem.
The_DogeWhisperer 9y ago
What an awful post. This is a terrible example of a false rape claim. This poster is obviously trying to make us look bad and you idiots are up voting this... Look at this guys post history. He is in no way shape or form red pilled.
aanarchist 9y ago
make her tape your first time together and have her say bravo over and over so that everyone knows that she approved. just make sure not to post it on a public forum where her husband can find it, cuz then she might kill herself out of shame.
Transmigratory 9y ago
Tbh he should've just left the house. Hamster explodes and suddenly she's seeking him out again.
It isn't worth it with these sort of women, especially a university student whose likely to have man-hating SJW friends.
I agree with your general premise, but I'd recommend that if one decides to venture out anyway: just get outta there the moment the situation comes up.
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i was trying to explain to some redpill guy earlier, that this rape accusation shit is usually not for revenge by psychotic women, but as some sort of inner defense and "anti-slut" cognative dissonance that women have inside them. at a certain point its easier for them to lie to THEMSELVES and say it was rape, rather than they just had casual sex. they actually believe the lie, they aren't trying to destroy anyones life.
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OP, would you mind quoting the antefact of that? because what you quoted is a clear-cut case of rape, and the parts that you say make you doubt the veracity of the story aren't in your quote.
PM_BOOBS_FOR_PUPPIES 9y ago
The real protip for this is "roll audio on every sexual encounter". Voice Recorder for iPhone/iPad works a champ.
Honestly, I don't give a fuck about the legalities of recording someone...I'll gladly fight that charge over a rape beef.
Mckallidon 9y ago
The first time was rape, but it was so good the rest was consensual. Sounds like marriage in the dark ages.
probpoopin 9y ago
So he fucked a girl that was crying and saying no? Sure sounds like rape to me... This isn't an after the fact, my feelings got hurt or I regret having sex. She literally said no, and started crying when he didn't stop. Sure, there are plenty of regret rape stories that I personally don't believe are actually rape. However, this instance, that isn't the case. She clearly said no, and the guy kept going.
Tldr, if a girl says no, and you don't stop, then she starts crying, and you still don't stop. You are raping her. This isn't a case of crying wolf or drinking too much and having regrets. She really should go to victim services because she was legitimately raped by this guy.
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Seriously doubtful. Most likely she is rewriting history to fit with her emotional state.
[deleted] 9y ago
to be fair you have no idea if she's making it up, you weren't there. whats the point of speculating?
melonmagellan 9y ago
Right? The other comments in this thread are alarming to me.
probpoopin 9y ago
Well, most of the people here are just internet nerds who still live with their parents. They think trp is some magical process to get girls. In reality, it is all about hard work in the gym and at your job or school. If this place has taught me anything it's that the things in life worth having generally require a great deal of effort and work.
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probpoopin 9y ago
No, that is what OP claimed to have happened. What if their are fucking unicorns on the dark side of the moon? What if martians live under my bed? What if what if what if. I'm just going off what was posted. Everyone else is making implications and assuming.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
Well, what was posted is that a female quoted the man's reaction, which contradicts her own statement. All in the context of her saying that she had to be advised that she was raped.
Particularly in light of her statement that 'he pushed through" (wtf does that mean) and that "I let him have sex with me". Consent right there. Please re read the post. What she felt doesn't mean shit...if he threatened or harmed her, it was rape. If she felt pressured and " let him", well she needs to work on sales resistance.
probpoopin 9y ago
Threats and harm don't need to be involved for it to be rape. Rape, by definition, is sex without consent.
Get your poor hamster off that wheel before it keels over and dies. You're running that sucker to death. I'm not playing semantics with you, or reading between lines. I went off exactly what OP claimed.
The fact of the matter is, there isn't enough information to know what happened. You are making an argument from a point of emotion, and letting that dictate what you THINK happened. Not what you know for certain and without a doubt. You are guessing, based on how you FEEL, and trying to argue like a fucking women about this topic. Again, there simply isn't enough information to make a determination either way. All I really said in my original comment, is that if a woman tells you no, and you do anyways, and then she starts crying, you are raping her. Everything else is from your poor hamster.
If you spent as much time working on yourself as you do arguing with people online about stupid completely unprovable shit, you probably wouldn't be such a beta bitch and let your emotions dictate what you believe to be truth. Like a fucking woman... Peace.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
My, youre bold! Sorry, learn English. When one " let's" somebody do something, that is consent. If you can't figure that out, just keep yur piehole shut until you can.
Words mean things.
probpoopin 9y ago
Ok, go fuck a girl crying who said no first. Let me know how it works out for you bud.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
Your logic is impressive. Now who' s crying like a bitch? (Hint: You). Stay off reddit till you learn manners, English, and how to shut up in the presence of your betters.
probpoopin 9y ago
I'm crying? How? You're an idiot. Not my better. It is amazing you know your better than a person you have never met. How do you do that? You sound like you live with mommy and daddy still because of how much bullshit you are projecting. Tough guy behind a keyboard, dime a dozen. You can go ahead and read my post history where I have a degree in microbiology and am an ex army airborne ranger, combat medic paratrooper. I could rip your arms off and beat you over the head with them. I also make about $200,000 a year. Let me know when you get anywhere close. I'll wait. I come here to help guys who don't know the game and suck with women. You sir, need to do some introspection, stop worrying about other people online, and do something with yourself. You are an entitled little shit with a chip on their shoulder, for no reason. I really doubt you have actually accomplished anything of value in your life. Probably because you are a teenager living with mommy and daddy. But tell me more how you are better than other people... Two words, beta bitch. Now, go lift some weights, and stop being a punk ass.
Drogba006 9y ago
The point of your post is stick to escorts? Jesus what the fuck dude?
This is like therapy level shit, there's no need to do that. Keep your wits and get better at feeling out the moment so you aren't pushing through a girl's resistance.
You should know if you're fucking up and she doesn't want it. Come on.
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escorts are great though. sticking to them is a great idea in general regardless.
babybopp 9y ago
It was a sarcastic way of saying an escort will not claim rape the next day as there is no gray area but clear cut consent..
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asking her for consent won't stop her crying rape later.