So you’re in Monk Mode, but you find yourself regularly lacking the energy and focus you need to complete all the tasks you assign yourself. You find it hard to concentrate when reading books, and your workouts suck because you get tired quickly. What do you do about it? Other than getting your testosterone, estrogen and thyroid checked, you start taking modafinil.
Some of the most influential people throughout mankind’s history have done drugs. Freud developed his psychoanalytic theory under the influence of pharmaceutical grade cocaine, Winston Churchill took nitrous oxide and Francis Crick, was supposedly (it’s disputed) high on LSD when he discovered DNA. Like it or not and irrespective of stigma, sourced well and dosed correctly chemical compounds can help an individual think in new ways and perform at an elite level.
Now whilst I shan’t ever be advocating the consumption of outlawed narcotics here at Illimitable Men, there are a class of substances known as nootropics that can greatly enhance a whole range of things. Effects vary from the enhancement of creativity and memory, to the alleviation of depression and fatigue.
In fact, you probably unknowingly take at least one nootropic everyday: caffeine. Caffeine is the world’s most famous nootropic, relied upon and consumed by millions day in, day out. Many people will shamelessly admit to a caffeine addiction because it’s socially acceptable and carries no stigma, but at its essence caffeine addiction is a biological addiction.
The main problem with caffeine is that tolerance is developed quickly. It’s a diuretic (you keep needing to go to the toilet, which interrupts your productive phases) and positive effects only last for a few hours (at most) before another dose is needed, and so when caffeine wears off, the individual experiences a horrible crash. Take it for too long and you become dependent, caffeine is habit-forming.
Modafinil is one of the strongest nootropics on the market, in truth I’d say its potency puts it somewhere between a drug and a nootropic, as it’s too weak to be a drug but too strong to be a nootropic. Luckily for you, the powers that be disagree with my assessment and classify modafinil as a nootropic off-label and a prescription medicine on-label. As such getting hold of the stuff is simple, and to my knowledge there is no penalty for possessing it (but this may vary by jurisdiction, so do research on the laws in your country before ordering anything.)
In the US under the controlled substances act, modafinil is categorised as a schedule IV drug, meaning to legally purchase the compound you need a prescription for narcolepsy or shift work sleep disorder, however in some instances it is given for sleep apnea. Most people cannot get a prescription from their doctor for modafinil, or even if they can, find it is cheaper to buy it online than with medical insurance. I’ll tell you exactly where you can source it from a reputable supplier further in.
You can read the full article here (skip to section 2 if you've read the above)

lynxlynxebin 9y ago
Your articles are as well knitted as they can be. It is a pleasure to be able to read them here, though sadly it seems like they are getting underrated and ignored. In my country Finland, regulations have made importing almost to non existant and this drug can be only obtained with a special reception which then takes a hell lot of time and is beyond reach for someone healthy. Can I ask what topics will you be writing soon on your schedule?
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IllimitableMan 9y ago
Nah I haven't taken it long, and when I do take it, it's no more than 50mg. You're the only person I've heard report such damaging symptoms, that's horrendous! You found anyone to corroborate your experience, or spoken with any researchers about what happened to you? If that's a legitimate risk I'm sure they'll want to know.
marinewannabee97 9y ago
One of my freinds used this before an exam. He scored 96% and the rest of us scored ~80%. May be coincidence, but he did not come across as the most intelligent. Perhaps it could just be coincidence.
Whisper 9y ago
I would advise caution.
While nootropics can indeed have benefits, modafinil has considerable potential to disrupt sleep... and lack of sleep is a very severe problem that is highly prevalent among today's young men.
brettfromtibet 9y ago
I would advise not using modafinil! modafinil use destroyed my life - and it caused me to become fatigued, exhausted and have to close my business and move back in with my parents. It gave me an unnatural amount of energy and drive which I took advantage of for 6 or 7 years -- without getting naturally tired - and eventually I crashed very hard with adrenal Fatigue Syndrome. I would not recommend taking ANY lab made chemical stimulants, racetams, etc. Stick with natural stuff: green tea extract, d-ribose, NADH, RiboGen, etc. if you must.
I'm not saying what happened to me will happen to everone, but I found the energy and focus modafinil gave me to be very seductive and it I did not realize how I was wearing myself out until it was far too late. I thought everything was cool and flying along until I started falling apart.
xx69bootyhunter69xx 9y ago
Damn that's exactly what happened in the movie of Limitless!
darthfarmer 9y ago
"There is no scientific evidence supporting the concept of adrenal fatigue and it is not recognized as a diagnosis by the medical community."
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Question for you: Were you taking it every day?
brettfromtibet 9y ago
I was taking a very moderate amount of it (50 to 100mg), once a day, approximately 5 or 6 days per week.
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TheGatherHunter 9y ago
I used to drink caffeine in the morning. Now I take half a pill of modafinil in the morning and half 5-6 hours later. I sleep better than I ever did on caffeine and feel a lot more awake during the day. I make sure I never take any within 12 hours of going to sleep and I'm fine.
Now don't expect this to be the case the first time you take it. I let a friend try one once, and she was up for two days straight. You'll never feel quite as great as the first time you took it, but it's still a heck of a drug.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
I outline a lot of risks in the full article and place a large emphasis on safe dosing, in fact I urge more caution than most because I've experienced some of the negative effects firsthand. Sleep is not a problem if you know what you're doing. Of course if you're taking 100mg in the late afternoon-evening.. good luck getting to sleep before 5am.
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
Id suggest starting them with pracetam then. It's about the safest entry into the nootropic market.
RealMcGonzo 9y ago
I'm currently in Monk Mode™ and taking 2 grams of piracetam powder and some sunflower lecithin (do not take the soy!) when I need a boost of brain power. Works pretty good.
Polaris382 9y ago
Could you give a brief explanation as to why not soy? Estrogenic and GMO?
RealMcGonzo 9y ago
I believe it was the estro, but I do not recall. My notes just say to get Sunflower and STFA from soy. Giving real thought to trying this Modafinil.
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LongLive80sRock 9y ago
Never heard of Modafinil before but it sounds like something I'd be interested in giving a try. How is Modafinil and hitting the gym? I take ~300mg of caffeine and 200mg of L-Theanine before I blast the gym and it works great for me. Is there any evidence of Modafinil helping in terms of weight lifting?
max_peenor 9y ago
It can make you jittery as fuck if you don't carefully control your intake--specifically make sure you take after food and at the same time each day.
Note, one brand of it is called provigil. The same company makes something called nuvgil. It takes the left-handed (or is it right?) fraction of the company and ditches the rest. It dramatically reduced the side effects, both experienced myself and with everyone I know who takes it. Unfortunately, it is expensive as fuck-all.
SoSconed 9y ago
I don't care what anybody says. Modafinil IS addictive and you will build a dependence on it if you use it regularly.
You have been warned.
illspeakmymind 9y ago
Agreed. What I fear is this subreddit turning into a drug dependent self improvement mess of a group. You do not need modafinil to master monk mode, it's only a cheap way out.
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
Rather than buy from unknown online sources, do like I've done for other prescription drugs and get a Bitcoin account (this is easy!) and shop on the deep web.
I've had good results.
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Um, how is the deep web a known source?
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
I should state "rather than buy from generic websites." My phrasing was misleading.
That said, so far, so good. I've been getting good generics from abroad off the deep web, rather than what I got from these bizarre, unknown websites from India.
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Thanks. FWIW, I just got modafinil today from the place linked in this article. I took 50mg. I like the effect so far. Am gettting a lot of work done and feel good. To me it feels like a low level time-release cocaine tablet, or something like that.
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
Thanks for the note. I've never tried that, so good to hear a description. I might buy a few.
Currently bought from a deep web marketplace: Clenbuterol, Cialis, Lunesta, Clonazepam. So far no complaints :)
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
I take it there are steroids on there?
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
Yes, definitely. However, also over at eroids.com are source reviews & more for many suppliers on the free web. Some of those also sell other things in addition to steroids.
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IllimitableMan 9y ago
Can you expand on this point? It's interesting. I'm assuming you're saying modafinil can worsen autoimmune disorders, but that's not exactly what you've said.
max_peenor 9y ago
It isn't autoimmune, but rather allergic sensitivities. Technically, they are two different things. I've seen some literature that contraindications Modafinil for the latter, but I haven't done a deep dive. On the other hand, I don't know a single MS patient, and I know quite a few of them, that doesn't try to get on Nuvigil or Prodigal. From what I've seen, it helps them a lot.
Way_Of_Man 9y ago
Seconding the Theanine/Caffiene combo. The easiest way to get this combo without buying supplements is to drink Green Tea. It the main natural source of Theanine.
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add into the combo something that a lot of people don't considersecond the notion of this:Nicotine Gum.
Nicotine is a proven cognitive enhancer. I get quite the enjoyable productivity "buzz" when using it and have personally never had any negative side effects from when I stopped using it.
EDIT: DISREGARD As you already mentioned it. Still leaving it up as I prefer the gum over the vaping.
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I'm a noob when it comes to green tea. What is the best? My parents have a bunch of different ones like peppermint, apple, chai etc. Is there a certain plants leaves that are considered standard green tea?
RedPillFreedom 9y ago
Kirkland Green Tea is one of the highest quality green teas I have found. IMO, nothing beats the quality you get for the price. 100 bags for $13.
Way_Of_Man 9y ago
For sure.
I do a mixture of both depending on the day. The tea gives me the effects of the combination but in a more mild way.
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Way_Of_Man 9y ago
Late night last night for this guy...guess I didn't see that part.
And on the note of vaping, I've done both vaping and the gum and the gum is vastly superior for putting me in busy bee productive mode IMO.
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Way_Of_Man 9y ago
Someone smarter than me or more well versed will have to provide the science behind the exact mechanisms. I speak from reading about recommended nootropics and my own experiences with them.
Theanine and Coffee is a great combo in that I get the caffeine boost without the jitters or anxiety. When I add the nic gum, it goes to a different level.
The best way I can explain it, is that the gum makes it feel like a quiet but powerful motor gets clicked on in my brain. Work and communication with work associates is absolutely effortless and I feel like I can get anything done when peaking on all 3 substances.
The problem with the gum is that the high of the highs lasts maybe an hour. Tolerance seems to build up quickly as well. I usually do a couple weeks on, one week off so that I'm not building a large tolerance. Primarily because I'll have to use more gum for the same effect, and that shit's expensive.
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Way_Of_Man 9y ago
I can't say that I have.
I cannot stand wine. I've never liked any of it and it just never sits right with me. Whiskey however, I'm a fan of.
I'd have to try this in isolation, as having even the slightest bit of whiskey increases my desire to conversate and socialize by a large margin.
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8675E09 9y ago
I'm going to play devil's advocate because there is suspiciously not enough negative comments about ordering a generic Indian schedule IV drug and having it delivered to your own house.
First, At the end of your article you talk about not being able to get an affiliate link after contacting the site you buy from, but the site itself has a link at the bottom for anyone to become an affiliate. Did you miss that?
Second, These are generics manufactured in India based off of Provigil or Nuvigil. These drugs are crazy addictive and dangerous (FDA).
Third, The site in its FAQ talks about "bad batches" occurring. I commend the site for disclosing this, but it makes me scared to think about how much it has to occur for them to list it in their FAQ. They only mention bad batches having none or too little active ingredient, but what if they sent a "bad batch" with too much active ingredient. You admit blacking out from taking your first dose.
Fourth, Is it legal to order a schedule IV generic from India without a prescription?
Lastly, the graduate students, lawyers, and "winners" who are taking stimulants to have an edge in their field are taking a huge risk with their short and long term health. If you want to feel energized, awake, and focus then develop the discipline to follow a fine tuned diet and sleep schedule. It will be more beneficial to your life than getting your work done early.
Source: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSafety/UCM231722.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjD7oGbmvbMAhUXwWMKHV6ZDc0QFgg6MAk&usg=AFQjCNHq2UHeHIiv4RWpi43XZ8oUDCEfZw
IllimitableMan 9y ago
The fda file you link says:
However, this is them just covering their asses from being sued, addiction potential is quite low. If it had high addiction potential, it wouldn't be schedule IV, it'd be schedule III or higher. The fact it has low abuse potential is reflected by it's scheduling, as shown here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3480574/
As for the lack of negative comments, perhaps, but this thread's sitting pretty on 0 votes.
I appreciate the criticism.
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dpape39 9y ago
If you're gonna call Modafinil a drug, then at least don't call it a potent drug please. A potent drug is something like LSD or DMT, and Modafinil couldn't be further from those. On Modafinil, you'll be working faster and harder than ever. On DMT, you're flying around in different fucking universes.
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Titan_Coeus 9y ago
Great overview, I owe my success to Nootropics.
I first learned of modafinil when reading an article about Oxford students. They were using it to deal with their workload and increase their grades. Being a student with a low attention span and high aspirations, naturally I invested in them.
To give you an idea my studying time went from 45 minute bursts to 7 hour marathons. My grades reflected this. I understood my weaknesses and self medicated. In my exams I realised certain topics would come up each year and memorised 8x 3000 word essays word for word. I would never have passed without this assistance.
I've used Phenibut to pass interviews and deliver presentations. Phenibut interacts with GABA receptors and is used in Russia as an anti anxiety drug.
After failing assessment centres and interviews due to nerves, I decided to self medicate with Phenibut. In the end I got the job and work experience took away my nerves naturally.
Phenibuts weird in the sense it gives you a mild feeling of euphoria (like MDMA) accompanied with a IDGAF attitude. You achieve a deep love for life and people and this masks any negative emotions. It's strange that you actually become emotionally blunted BUT also deeply care about some people. Such as when I bumped into my recent ex at the time trying to make me jealous. I didn't care and was infatuated with the girl I was with that night.
Anavar although not a nootropic (mild steroid) I believe it's worth commenting on. Anavar doesn't put pounds and pounds of muscle on. It increases strength, increases vascularity and adds about 11 pounds of lean weight on. This is great because you want your gains to seem "natural" and don't want to be outed as a "cheat". With other steroids it can be quite obvious that you're a "user" but anavar makes a difference but not a huge difference. I was easily the most shredded guy at my uni and made it look effortless and natural. It was easy to hide as it was an oral too.
To those that are sceptical remember "no one cares how you got there, just as long as you get there"
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Titan_Coeus 9y ago
You can use it on its own, but it's suggested to take T. Also a pct and a liver detoxifier are essential. Please do research before indulging with it
Polaris382 9y ago
So...for someone who struggles badly with studying and will soon be trying to knock out the CPA exams in a short period. Would this stuff be advisable in your opinion?
Titan_Coeus 9y ago
Definitely.
modafinil + listening to binaural beats = ultra focus.
If you have 60 days until your exams but you're only focused collectively for 15 days. You only achieve 15 days work of revision. If you take modafinil and are focused for more of those 60 days, you've just gained yourself more focused revision time. Worth every penny.
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Whats the story on the binaural beats?
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Titan_Coeus 9y ago
Your brain thinks in various lengths of waves. Hence "brain wave" . Alpha, theta, beta and delta. One of them is suited to studying and focus, by listening to binaural beats you force your brain into a suited wave. The result is it increases your concentration. It's a type of white noise which blocks out any disturbances and allows you to focus your full attention on the task at hand.
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illspeakmymind 9y ago
yes it may be true that "no one cares how you got there, just as long as you get there", but then doesn't being dependent on man-made drugs disturb you
Titan_Coeus 9y ago
I'm far from dependent and I believe a timescale would be useful.
Modafinil I would take only around exams (30 tablets over 120 days)
Phenibut ( as and when : 8 times a year)
Anavar (6-8 weeks per year).
In a year I will be using some supplement on average 1/5 of that time. Here's the thing, i could easily achieve what I have naturally. It would just take an extra couple of years, how many years do you want to trade to get to where you want to be ?
illspeakmymind 9y ago
Steroids increase your mass gain by 4 times.
Say (ideally) it takes 2 years of highly effective, highly focused training have a fully developed 'natty' body.
With steroid it will take half an year.
I would still do 2 years of hard work. yes I would have results quicker if I took steroids, but I would not have the same work ethic and habits formed like I would if I naturally did proper workouts without the effect of steroids blinding my progress (since steroids helps you gain even if you do a shitty workout, so how do you know what you're doing is right). And then all the bla-bla argument on side effects and consequences.
Maybe what I mean to say is, once the drugs help you get where you want to be, what would do you without them? That type of dependency is what disturbs me.
Titan_Coeus 9y ago
Very good point.
I agree that using supplements, be that steroids or nootropics can fuck up your learning curve.
Shortcuts increase your time to learn new skills but you will avoid the pain,discomfort and growth. Arguably the essentials.
And to that I can only say "you reap what you sow". But it's with this understanding that really matters. If you use a supplement to pass a shitty exam to get a job, it's worth it. If you use a supplement to do a job or look a certain way, then you're destined to fail. Supplements should only amplify your own natural talents.
unsoughtiron 9y ago
it's like saying I want to write all notes from classes I missed and don't photocopy them because I don't want to be dependant on photocopy technology. If a particular drug has negligible side effect in grand scheme of things and helps you achieve your goals faster then who cares?
illspeakmymind 9y ago
The difference here is that modafinil is a drug you take in, while a photocopier is a machine you use. One affects your body and perspective directly. But then in support of your point, there are machine which do affect us directly as well, like video consoles and tvs.
To each their own then. Taking modafinil is like taking steroids, if you're okay with that then do as you wish
CanadaTRP 9y ago
I have used 100mg modafinil infrequently for those days I want to max out the productivity I can put forth on a given day.
Some things I noticed:
Even with eating 5 large eggs at breakfast, I still get a headache in the evening unless I take a 300mg Alpha GPC (choline) supplement with my dinner.
It can really fuck up your circadian rhythm. Several days ago I took 100mg, one small cup of coffee, and 200mg theanine at 10 am on an empty stomach, and couldn't fall asleep until 5am. The reduced hours of sleep really fucked up my muscle recovery as I had a strenuous game of hockey that evening and i was sore an extra two days past my normal recovery time. Be aware if you are subject to any level of insomnia that it can make it worse.
Despite the somewhat minor side effects I've had while using it, the positive benefits far outweigh the negatives. Unfortunately I live in Canada and none of the suppliers from India ship to Canada and other countries that have strict import controls. Anyone have any luck using a mail forwarding service like the one ModafinilCat links on their website (skypax.com)?
IllimitableMan 9y ago
You want to try cutting your dose from 100mg to 50mg, you may avoid the nasty migraines that way. When I took 100mg I had absolutely terrible migraines for hours in the evening. Those were hours that could've gone into being productive rather than agonising on the bed. Try lowering your dose and seeing how that works out.
TheGatherHunter 9y ago
I find this interesting because 50mg doesn't seem to do much for me.
He might be dehydrated. I remember once I was getting massive headaches from modafinil, I took about a gallon of water and I felt better. It seems like I need a lot of water while taking it.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
I'm a sensitive responder, so 50mg does the trick for me. The effects aren't as strong, but I think that's a good thing because on 100mg they felt WAY too strong (at least for me, I can't speak for most.)
I'm not the only one who's reported loss of consciousness, about 1.5% of people experience it and I expect it's because they're more sensitive than most. This is why I urge caution/low dosing in the article, you don't want to accidentally overdose.
Johnny_Monsanto 9y ago
I've used Modafinil many times and while it is an incredible drug it is not something to be played with like if it was nothing. Sure there might be very mild side effects but the fact that it is not a well known studied drug should be enough to use common sense and caution when using it.
Also, Modafinil does not affect everyone in the same way. It does work for me tho, it gives me a feeling that i have to do something productive but I have friends that have used it that told me they only feel a increase in energy and a strange feeling behind the eyes. Don't go around thinking this drug will magically solve all your problems like alot of people do.
illspeakmymind 9y ago
Modafinil to work is like steroids to lifting, and we should treat Modafinil like so. It is a drug with benefits and consequences. I fear that people will misinterpret this by thinking 'ahh I haven't been performing well lately, must be because I haven't had modafinil!' and taking it, feeling good for a while, without even checking if they're deficit in other aspects, like dehydration or poor nutrition.
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Bingo. You still have to put in the work. Whenever I take it without a plan, I get severly sidetracked like "do I need to buy a new car? let me do hours of research and see if I need to buy a new car".
If you have a plan in place and want to stick to it / do it faster, that's when moda can do wonders.
kremer5 9y ago
That sets a really bad precedence. "I gotta take something to get shit done". Grind for a few years before you fuck with drugs outside of caffeine.
On that note, modafinil is incredible. 100x better than adderall
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Nobody knows about Adrafinil?You can buy it a powder city legally here in the US and likely other vendors. It's a pro-drug of Modafinil but it's not easy on your liver. Both of them are fairly addictive.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
Heard about it, was told modafinil's better because it does not tax the liver so much.
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I think the point of Adrafinil was that you could legally buy it in places that Modafinil is Sched4, so even though it's hard on your liver it's legal and easily attainable. I think it deserves at least a mention, lots of people swear by the Adrafinil same as Modafinil because they can get it without going to Mexico or Canada. Milk Thistle suggested to be stacked with this stuff.
DforDeadpool 9y ago
When I was a teen I had horrible headaches. I went to a neurologist and he prescribed me a nootropic. Its name was Nootropil, I guess. Cured the pain AND improved my memory, my grades skyrocketed. Best decision ever.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
I've been hearing a lot about piracetam. Not tried it myself, but might be worth experimenting with to see what all the hype's about.
TimSimply 9y ago
Piracetam is okay, however if you are interested in trying it I highly suggest noopept instead. It is very similar to piracetam but is 100x more potent. With piracetam you have to take multiple teaspoons (in measurements of grams) and the effects seem to be less consistent than noopept in my experience. With noopept you just take a single microscoop or 2 (10-20mg) and you are good to go for the day.
DforDeadpool 9y ago
Heard that it increases the communication between the two hemispheres of the brain. Definitely interesting.
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
5 x 800mg pills a day, choline or eggs to amplify. It's been around for 70 years, and is the oldest and lowest risk of all nootropics.
Most start there, then switch to aniracetam, then oxiracetam, settling on whichever strength works for them. think of them as 2nd and 3rd generation, lot better potency, though price per dose is about the same, most just don't want to choke back a handfull of pills everyday of piracetam.
works best with cycles too. some complain of brain fog, usually in 3 week cycles on and off have been reported as helpful.
I don't use much, if at all anymore, but managed to get through a 4 year degree, while in a full time career, and cross country move in 4 years. really burning the candle at both ends.
I wouldn't take it if you just have to do drudgery work.
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If Modafinil for some reasons is too strong for you to consume try to check Idebenone, almost zero side-effects, improve concentration.
If you want to sleep less along with concentration check Alpha GPC.
Both have tolerance e.g. after a while the effect is mitigated.
Phosphatidyl Serine gives memory improvement especially during stress.
This 3 are combined naturally. If you want energy boost check Ubiquinol. Note that Ubiquinol and Idebenone mitigate each other.
As for Modafinil - this is pretty strong shit, but generally safe (I was researching the stuff both from pharma articles side and user review).
Evileddie13 9y ago
This shit made me fuck balls crazy for a hot minute. Like, MURDER, crazy. Do not take any other drugs with this shit ,MONTHS, before or after. Have any form of aniexty issues? Nope. Still blue pill and just broke up with a girl? Did she tell you she fucked Chad? No, Moda.... Seriously, posts like this piss me off. Let me explain: Have approach aniexty? Always giving a fuck? Alcohol is your answer! DRINK TEN BEERS AND TWO SHOTS BEFORE YOU TALK TO A CHIC! Alcohol is a wonder drug and metabolised like this (science shit) that's why it improves your IDGAF and kills aniexty! Increase dosage as nessasary. LMAO. Monk mode is for MONKS. Monks don't do drugs, yo. Seriously, I almost killed a bitch, she didn't get hurt, at all. No, worries, she's still alive being a cunt.