While we were in "back to basics" mode and celebrated our extended exposure to the rest of reddit through subbredditoftheday, a very sad study done by the National Center for Health Statistics was published.
Suicide rates among white males are not only still the highest of all, they also took a significant rise both relatively and absolutely.
While r.science is still wondering, why the suicide rate among white males rose while that of black males declined, and speculate about pressure in the working place and other strawmen, I think we all know what the true reasons are - hint: it'ss not our white male privileges.
White men in the Western world suffer from the loss of a positive male identity. They struggle to make sense of the world around them and how they feel about it on the inside, living in a constant cognitive dissonance they aren't able to solve for themselves.
Being taught to suppress parts of their nature, their so called "toxic masculinity" their desire to dominate, to suppress their aggressivenes and thirt to measure themselves with other males, rather than being taught how to canalyze all of those into doing something useful for both themselves and the people around them, took it toll.
The fact that we are fairly popular among reddit - bad PR is still PR - easily tempts us into projecting that popularity on the real world, which of course is way off of reality.
The vast vast vast majority of men is living a plugged-in life, believing in all the utter bullshit they have been and are still fed day by day by what we call "society".
Being told that being nice and patient is all they need and that success in life is just a byproduct of luck and not of hard work, those who fall and struggle to get up, simply cannot imagine a positve and happy future for themselves, since what they have been told it takes in oder to succeed in life, didn't work for them.
Having been on the verge of leaving this world out of free will, although it was not TRP which gave me the initial push to better myself, it was this subreddit which ultimately allows me to lead an increaingly happier life with increasing life quality each day.
I finally made peace with my inner demons and the beast inside myself. I learned to accept my nature and still learn to make use of the traits I possess in order to one day be able to be the man I always pictured myself to be.
Other men deserve this chance as well - that is why we are so important.
I leave you with a cheesy quote:
When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.
- Lao Tsu

alphadextro 10y ago
is the red pill only for white males?
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vandaalen 10y ago
I don't and nobody with a reputation here does. This also applies to all of the rest you wrote. This is not r.mensrights.
play_time_is_over 10y ago
I'm so glad I do martial arts. I found a surplus of positive masculine role models. Those fuckers are extremely dirty as well. Naturals.
vandaalen 10y ago
Can confirm. BJJ and MMA changed everything about my life, including my perspective on it.
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I disagree with you wholeheartedly. White males have been getting EVERYTHING and yet find one way or another to self-destruct while us black men are being constantly judged, ridiculed and suppressed as 'aggressive' and we use this to become better not bitter.
I suggest you re-read the teachings of TRP and stop using the 'victim' card because quite frankly you sound like a 'damn fool' and just an angry white male
fingerthemoon 10y ago
It depends on the situation. If you're dealing with a white police officer in the south, then yes, it's probably better to be a white man. But there are many situations where black men have more privilege. Like in the artistic community and within leftist circles. In these places black men have much more freedom to speak their mind without being concerned about being pc or offending people. Black men can be misogynistic, aggressive and masculine, are almost expected to be that way.
I've been talking to a gay black man I met at a coffee shop. He grew up in NYC and now lives in the south east. He's a lawyer. I asked him if he'd experienced much sexism or racism in his life. He thought for a minute and then said no, he couldn't think of a single example. I'm an attractive tall white man and experience sexual and racial discrimination on a regular basis.
In my experience I see people bending over backwards to be nice and friendly to blacks and gays, almost as if they're trying to prove they're not racist/sexist. The irony here is that behavior is racist/sexist because it's special treatment.
As far as women are concerned, I've heard many of them want black cock. In studies men tend to prefer women with similar traits. for instance, blue eyed men have a strong preference for blue eyed women. But women could care less. The reason comes down to parental certainty and regressive traits like blond hair and blue eyes. Women like tall DARK and handsome.
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Depends on the culture. In nations where the population is in warmer climates and where work is mostly blue collar, women and men have shown to be attracted to lighter skinned men. Lighter skin displays that they work indoors and have a higher paying, white collar job.
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i agree with all your points. I noticed this recently, i'm highly educated, have a great career but people still feel like they're walking on egg shells around me and i know exactly why. They barely or never challenge my points, i learned this a very long time ago, but even then i don't take this for granted. I know all of this is the consequence of many people dying, fighting for our rights to even exist and be seen as human beings so I treat people with the same respect. As for white women, i'm that 1% of black men who can say 100% i'm just not attracted to white women, even before the redpill. So i understand when people say they have a preference for this or for that, or maybe its what you said, that i know white women 'love the black cock' so i always thought 'you're just going to be used'.
vandaalen 10y ago
And I suggest you re-read your own fucking post. Especially these parts:
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You can keep spinning the wheel bc last time I checked you're the one crying like a baby OP. Man up and get better and still acting beta
JohnnyRaz 10y ago
"Bettering yourselves" how? By constantly pretending that there is a nameless, faceless, shadowless nonexistent boogie man "holding you back" and blaming all of your problems on said boogie man with constant BS like "black lives matter" and whatnot?
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by stop whining about how white women have found freedom after 1000s of years of oppression by the white man and now you're all here moaning like little tampons. If its not the white woman, then its the mexicans, the muslims and oh the biggest boogeyman of all, the one you all are trying to imitate so badly; The black man!
Jax77789 10y ago
I think that women's entering of the professions is largely to blame in this epidemic. Most men today will go to University for about 5 years, as women. Women are not interested in equals. Result : incels and AFCs everywhere + miserable women + less numerous and fucked up children + type R selection + male suicides = civilizational disaster.
Our forefathers had it perfectly right : women should not have the right to enter a profession of their choosing and even then, the man should be allowed, at his discretion, to grant her the right to use her income or not. Even if they make competent workers they screw up society as a whole and will always be less productive than a man.
But that is an era I do not see us coming back to unless the likely European civil war against the Hordes brings about a tabula rasa moment.
evileddy 10y ago
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db241_fig1.png
Fuck... why aren't we addressing why so many men are killing themselves?
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White privilege is a special kind of blue pill. It is the most popular among left wing youth that have actually enjoyed privilege, being sent to college by your parents and provided for. And it is also popular among left wing older folks, who have secured for themselves a sizeable ammount of wealth off of which they can now coast and chastize their competition for being "greedy". Its essentially the same mechanism behind certain societal clubs like Lions, where people have spent their entire lives trampling on others and then try to console their minds by "attoning" for it in their golden years.
I think it plays to a very human tendency towards self-flagulation. Many religions practice some form of it, now that post-modernism has become the new religion, its not surprising to see cult- and sect-like behaviour from the bottom pack, while those at the top can reap the benefits.
Caucasian-African 10y ago
Exactly. I just love when Warren Buffet advocates higher tax rates & says people should give away their money. Sure, jackass, now that you have mountains of money, it's ok for the young guys to be taxed into subservience to their employer & the government. Who cares what he thinks?
Benny757 10y ago
Excellent post. If I may be so bold, how is it different for men of other races, colors, and creeds? Or is it actually worse for minorities? I would very much like to learn and understand, and would appreciate and internalize all opinions from men of other races/religious/cultural creeds. In short, is it all men in America and/or westernized countries? I see it affecting men who are "westernized." I'm just really trying to wrap my head around this. The whole issue is so, very unsettling.
Caucasian-African 10y ago
In my humble, white guy opinion, less black men buy into blue pill BS. Just like less black men buy into 99%er type BS. Just from observations and people I've known.
WIS_pilot 10y ago
White men make up less than ~7% of the world's population. In the very few countries that we make up the majority, we are told by our people that simply existing is wrong (white privilege). White people have shown themselves to be either suicidal, or incapable of handling long periods of abundance. This is evidenced by the last fall of the roman empire.
redpillnexus 10y ago
Pretty sure its just for westernized folks. Non white guy here, I can relate to pretty much every issue your average American white guy has and then a few others. As western men of various races and religions we're all being used by the system in the same way.
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RP_Vergil 10y ago
In Korea, a studies have shown that man are giving up on Marriage due to how difficult it is to split themselves between work and family time on top of Housing Loan. It has driven up the market for "Man Toys" like Legos and Remote control drones.
While Tv Stations start to include more shows with kids on screen for the Single Woman approaching the Wall.
In Taiwan reality or discussion TV shows, more and more emphasize are placed on "Women Standing up for themselves" while shading patriarchy behaviour as toxic for kids to follow.
The reality of it is true for most Asian countries where the society is being westernize. Man are slowly being forced to become "the best" while woman expects to just bring duty sex to the table and close the marriage deal.
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I'm a 'generic minority' as in you'll never know which word will piss me off.
In my experience, it's sort of like the idea of having a functional bi polar wife. 99% of the time, it's functionally identical as a normal one, but you have to be aware of that 1% of the time where it isn't, and take appropriate action, or realize it's out of your control.
It's not huge, but it's always there, like a man who is challenging you to a fight, you're never ready for it, but have to be prepared, and have the sense to know when it's happening.
I'm sure everyone has their crosses to bear, this is just mine
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Would you like to know? Explain where I lost you, I'm more than happy to use terms you can understand
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No salt here...
I'll put in effort, I'm gauging whether you are asking with good faith or not. though I think I have my answer.
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The psychological benefits of having a manosphere are great but honestly i believe the possible developments are greater.
Somewhere down the line out of those informal networks i'm pretty sure will come out something better: formal ones. Think a 1kk only-men (as in not bp) linkedin - invitation only.
I don't want to comment on the idea to let it linger but the social implications would be awesome. You have been advised, if nobody tries that then i'm going to get rich in some years hah. Just kidding but it would be worth a shot... somewhere down the line.
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fluid organizations. Since 'diversity' and the need for women to invade male spaces (access) will alwyas kill organizations of certain sizes. But like subreddits, the easy of which men can leave and form new ones will be the measure of it now.
if things get to unweildly to be a positive influence for men, go make your own, bring the creme of the former, leave the chaff behind.
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I'm slowly working along those lines. White heterosexual men need to organize, plan, and create for themselves. Rich men having been doing this for years and I've learned a lot about it working for them. It's about pooling resources, creating definite goals (and achieving them), and keeping out distracting and useless voices.
A land trust i belong to has women and minorities in it but we have monthly meetings and goals. And we typically achieve them.
White heterosexual men more or less need the same thing. They need to create for themselves and pool resources among themselves. Boycott all women and minority owned businesses and media. Just unplug and move on.
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The best thing about boats. You can always build another one. And as the Vikings figured out, you can build better ones. Not every boat has to be the same or do the same thing.
One thing I admire about the rich enclaves of wealth. They understand plundering wealth (legally) and then warping it into more wealth and sustainability. They make The Shark Tank look tame and if you bring them an idea, they are undoubtedly going to fuck you out of it. I know, because I've done it for them. Sitting across from the idea creators at a mediation, plopping fifty grand on a table and tell them to sign the mediated settlement agreement. Fifty grand for years of struggle, strife, frustration, and sadness. To see it hijacked, monetized, and subtly taken from them without them realizing. Little fish playing not in their back yard pond, but an ocean of great whites.
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Yup, it's why I shared. Never rely on others, it comes with a price.
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I think one of the reasons for this saddest state of affairs is that THERE IS NO JOB FOR WHITE MALE IN USA. Engineering job, military job, construction job, navy job, electrical technic job, carpenter job, mechanic job. Just plain nothing.
my_sfw_alias 10y ago
There are plenty. I am offered just about every job I apply for, but my resume looks awesome highlighting the skills I have developed over my entire life. My good looks, my confidence, how I project myself and my frame all likely have something to do with it.
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
Arbeit macht frei ("work sets you free.")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei
The Beta Bucks is under the false assumption that he is a free man when he is actually a slave.
Every law related to the family now makes the male the slave to the female.
Gone are the "laws of wisdom" from 100 years ago.
Is it any wonder that the male today would rather die than awaken?
A man must choose:
Continue to work as the Blue Pill beta slave and evade the truth, become depressed and then commit suicide in the end.
If there is to be a death isn't the "Beta Death" better than the physical death?
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Actually an "alpha male" is also a slave in the same system... But his life is just more comfortable. We're all slaves, nothing new.
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
It depends on if you are describing the "high status beta" or someone like a Chad Thundercock who is currently in prison.
Chad has an animal masculinity and capacity for violence so on an instinctual level a woman "sees" this man as Alpha even though he's a complete fuck up in life and is now serving five years in prison.
The "high status beta" works his corporate job where his boss demands that he serve him as a slave and he works 60 hours a week in order to gain social position within the "slave resource pool" at work.
The wife of that "high status beta" enjoys the experience of material wealth and sometimes in her mind she can even imagine herself as being attached to an "Alpha" but deep down in her instincts she knows he's a slave to the corporation. She will then meddle with the "high status beta" and try to get him to advance his position in work. She will never feel he is high enough and the purchase of more and more useless consumer products is there to try to distract her from her real problem.
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I've just had on my mind the fact that we all work for a bunch of psychopats on the top, who create money out of thin air.
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
It's called by them (within their secret societies) the "New World Order".
But I hate that name and think it glorifies their plan.
By calling it the Globalist Tyranny you are more accurate and casting a negative emotional expression with the facts.
One of the biggest errors is the whole "Jewish" interpretation.
The Globalist Tyranny is a massive web of interconnected parts that include corporations as well as politicians all the way down to the news outlets.
Actual Jews are "True Torah" and limit their study to the original Torah. ("earliest writings")
The Talmud was written in 800 AD and is a weaponized version of Game that is used by Zionists to advance their agenda.
It's best to see Zionists as practicing "Identity Theft" on the core Jewish wisdom which is the Torah.
The Torah and Red Pill as well as Natural Laws are all describing the same things. I call it the Rubik's Cubeâ„¢ which is an abstract toolset of knowledge which you use to comprehend reality.
All truth is Red Pill. All truth is Torah. All truth is Natural Law.
All the Dark Luciferian forces seek followers or slaves and they dumb people down.
We free the slaves when we "Kill the Beta".
Godtiermasturbator 10y ago
It also went up for white middle aged women. Guess that feminism is not working out so well for them.
gonorealover 10y ago
I really wish I could punch oblivious morons like you through my monitor who post shit like this . Feminism will ALWAYS work out for women. That is why women brought it back.
ItsTheHomeWrecker 10y ago
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Godtiermasturbator 10y ago
Oh you're so red pill teach me master
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How many of these suicides are men categorised as 'dead beat dads', hounded and forced into poverty for children they never wanted and can never see? How many of them have been divorced, through 'no fault' of their own, and screwed over by the family courts? How many are incels, young men who have no clue how to get a woman into bed because they have been sold a pack of lies, find that one of their basic needs (at the base of the Maslow pyramid) is not met year after year, and see themselves as worthless as a result?
Just wondering.
TheReformist94 10y ago
Being an incel with the wrong set of rules wondering why you can get sex is one of the worst feelings.utter feeling of self loathing,worthless,invisible,and literally of no use to the earth. Even getting rejected hemlps,but its that feeling of being invisible. The indifference the world shows you.true disposability.
BluepillProfessor 10y ago
Strange there are no studies on that topic.
It should not be hard to find. If anybody cared.
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I figured you'd know as well as anyone. In your experience, how many of those guys in custody battles looked to be in the throws of depression, compared to their haaaapy ex wives?
Fly_Swim 10y ago
I'm 100% Elliot Rodger wouldnt have shot anyone if he had a 9 inch dick, thats how much D size matters, it COMPLETELY changes the game
im about 5.5 x 5 and ive banged 100 women in the past 2 years, i asked the last 25-30 about my D size as long as they were below an 9 rating ( i wouldnt sabotage future 9.0 lays lol)
they all said im small except 1 said im medium (probably lying) but smaller than most white guys (im white)
afkb39sdfb 10y ago
Oh shut the fuck up, Jesus Christ.
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Entropy-7 10y ago
I wonder about divorce: the biggest single suicide risk factor among men. Statistically, black guys don't marry as much as white guys and more of them don't live with the mother in the first place. I don't know about the comparative divorce rate between married black and white couples but it stands to reason that divorce is disproportionately white compared to the relative populations at large.
CopperFox3c 10y ago
Along with the things you point out, I think part of the sky-high white male suicide rates is simply the result of penalizing men for "privilege" that most of them never had in the first place. Most men are not CEOs of fortune 500 companies or NBA players or the like. They are just regular, hard-working, blue collar guys.
In other words, the apex fallacy.
And if they are gonna penalize us for it, then it is incumbent we learn to adapt ... which is why, as the OP mentioned, the "red pill is so important." We may not have created this reality - hell we may not even like it - but we must learn to live within it.
Those who see reality for what it is, can bend it to their will … those who see only illusion, are bent to its will.
kaane 10y ago
Those who see reality for what it is, can bend it to their will … those who see only illusion, are bent to its will
This is one probably one of the best advice I read in TRP
JumpyPorcupine 10y ago
White privilege may be the worst myth the left has brainwashed into society.
trumpisafaggybeta 10y ago
No I'm pretty sure feminism takes the cake here. The idea that men and women are somehow equal will always be a laughable one. We are different physiologically and mentally. This is the biological truth that manginas/feminists can't quite cope with
JohnnyRaz 10y ago
All of this horrible shit that is destroying white males seem to be spearheaded by Jews. It's sad.
vandaalen 10y ago
I've seen better trolling attempts.
It's not the jews, but an elite who practices ancient kanaanite, luciferian, occult beliefs.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Things have been oddly exploding recently. Suicide is really only good at times if you absolutely are fucked for a cage.
DodgedAFew 10y ago
Definitely not just hard work. Hard work is blue pill.
Caucasian-African 10y ago
Hard work isn't blue pill... That's dumb to say.
DodgedAFew 10y ago
Ok, go work at a sweatshop in China.
vandaalen 10y ago
Think more abstract. Hard work does not necessarily mean labour.
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DodgedAFew 10y ago
I have nothing against hard work on own intellectual property, own business, own mind, own body etc. Just don't give an employer 100%.
EdvardMunch 10y ago
Those who are considered minorities or oppressed in society today are allowed to get away with less pc things I've noticed.
Black men are largely able to still operate as men without being shamed as much as white males. I find hope in that.
I'd be fine with being proven wrong here. But it is the white male who is "privileged" therefore under scrutiny. I don't think a white male could sing about bustin nuts up in walls.
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EnjoyLifeOrDieTrying 10y ago
Why does it mater if you are white black blue brown or purple we are all humans
vandaalen 10y ago
It shouldn't, but it does. I am all for a world without prejuidice and with everybody having the same chances and perspective in life.
I have always viewn myself as art of the left and in my youth in the late 80s and early 90s I have even been a member of the "AntiFa Jugendfront", the antifascist youthfront.
Truth is though, that which sex you have, which place you are born, what colour of skin you have, if your parents are rich or poor, etc. pp. has a huge impact on your life.
Regardless if you are able to overcome your starting conditions.
EnjoyLifeOrDieTrying 10y ago
Yes everything around you has an impact on your life but why should the color of your skin lead people to believe you might act a certain way and why do people think one can act like a color?
vandaalen 10y ago
Although not important for this discussion, that is just what we are wired like.
We have a natural distrust for people who are not part of our family or our group and how somebody looks is the most obvious factor which parts one from another.
Some people have the capability to overcome, some not. This also works in the other direction btw. Here in Germany many people not only fear and despise of the latest Muslim migrants, but also the migrants despise of us as being weak and dirty infidel pig eating kafirs.
What is important though is to always accept the world for what it is and act accordingly. You can wish for a better world, but you have to deal with this one.
hazimmm 10y ago
Hey OP, not to be an annoying grammar nazi but isn't it "canalize" in lieu of canalyze?
NaughtyFred 10y ago
When you're alpha enough, you won't need grammar...or even spellchecking!