This is basically a story thread of how the red pill has affected me personally:
I grew up extremely blue pill and feminized. My dad was a boss lawyer who wasn't around much and my mom was the trophy wife he knocked up. Grew up hating dad and clinging to mom, and graduated into white knight hood after highschool as per my mother's direction.
Went to university and had nothing to do with either parent for years. Spent countless all nighters on the coffee shop doing math, learning financial derivatives, learning how to perform mergers and acquisitions. Graduated on the Dean's List in the first division. I make bank now.
But during that time I had many women leave me for hypergamous uptrades. First love, 2 year relationship: drug dealer with more money than me who wasn't studying as much. Pumped and dumped her. Literally, one sexual encounter and he was done with her. Second love, 3 year relationship: Left me for an older guy with a house and a fiance. He told her he wouldn't leave his fiance for her, but that he loved her and he had a 6 figure salary. She's alone now and widely considered a corporate whore.
No matter how much investment you put in, you will always be liable to be a victim of hypergamy. I became game aware last year and started really practicing. I gamed everyone. I gamed the cashiers at the chinese convenience store, I gamed my co workers, I gamed old people, and I started getting really good at connecting with people. I started gaming hot chicks. I started banging 9's and 10's, what the fuck?
Fast forward a bit, I've banged about 2 dozen women now and I find a girl who really connects with the blue pill fagget inside me. She bought me final fantasy 7 and played it with me all the way to the end. We play Guild wars 2 together. She basically does whatever I want. I am so dominant now that I don't put up with less. Problem arises when her friends playfully tease me one day about being way younger than she usually goes for and how she's usually a casual sex type person. I ask the woman about it and she, backed into a corner, explains. Her ex bf is a drug dealer who she was with for 4 years. He was 26 when they met and she was 18. She moved in with him immediately and stayed for 4 years. She then banged like 9 guys in a few months, in their thirties. Losers mostly, living in their parents basements, unemployed, no life. She was LIBERATED from societies chains. She was a STRONG INDEPENDANT WOMAN. Anyway... I'm 26, and she's 23 now. I don't really want to be in this relationship. I feel like I should be banging 18 year olds. I feel like she gave it up to the lowest rungs of society and now I'm just some poor beta fag who takes care of her now.
PROBLEM: She's moved in to my place. She still has her own apartment and pays rent but has moved like ALL of her clothes her. She sleeps here every night. She's here every day after work. I tried to tell her to leave twice since I became red pill aware and decided I don't want a woman who's ridden the cock carousel and wants a nice guy to take care of her. Fuck that shit, thats not gonna be my life. Anyway, I tried to tell her to leave twice and she breaks down sooooo bad. I've never seen anything like it. Convulsions, tears, inane babble, blah blah blah lame bullshit excuses for her past. She paws the air, or the wall or whatever with her arms and legs, can't even function on a normal level...
She's been bringing home tons and tons of Christmas presents for me... Cooking and cleaning and stuff.... trying to qualify for me...
This is what happens guys, when you get value and realize that you aren't going to let women get away with this feminine imperative shit. Women make themselves unsuitable for traditional marriage but try SO HARD to have their cake and eat it too...
Anyway, its almost christmas and I don't know what to do. I have this woman here. Shes hot as shit, nice fucking body, but I want younger and fresher and I also want to go to Eastern Europe.
I only wish I had discovered the red pill earlier so I could have avoided this situation.
Also, she never had a father. Mother divorced father shortly after birth and became a lesbian. She now has a wife. The feminism runs strong here.
This is a case study for your consideration. Its a warning and an example.... Advice on the break up is also welcome.
TL:DR- I started as a weak pussy man and became more alpha. Women who have ridden the cock carousel during their prime are now trying to get me to settle
TAOofSTEVE 11y ago
I think you and I have way different views on The Red Pill. I just want to clear somethings up before I go any farther.
Do you want to break up with her because you aren't interested in her any more? Or is it simply because you found out about her sexual history? You obviously liked her enough for you two to become close enough for her to move in. Do you think she is lying about her interest and reasons to like you? Do you think she is just into you for the money and security? Or once again, are you just judging her based on her sexual history?
legendofpasta 11y ago
Her sexual history is this: During her prime years she went for the alphas in their prime years. Now that I'm in my prime years, I want to go for the hot young girls. I feel like I fell into a SMP trap.
TAOofSTEVE 11y ago
Ok, it was just ambiguous from your post if you were basing your decision based solely on your own need to spread your alpha seed or if you were basing it solely on her sexual past.
It kind of sounds like you are trying to blame her past as an excuse for your desire to go out and plow 18 year olds. Nothing wrong with wanting to stay single and play the field. Just don't lie to yourself about why. Nothing to be ashamed of.
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It's actually kind of funny how the red pill transition happens.
Pre-red pill: take great care of them -> they all cheat on you, every single one of them.
Post-red pill: lie to them, cheat on them, cock carousel them, do nothing romantic or nice for them ever -> they never leave your ass, they beg you not to break up with them, they cry and they stay faithful
When this reality hit me I lost almost all respect I had been brainwashed to have for the weaker sex. The good news is I haven't had a chick cheat on me since then... but still it makes no sense.
legendofpasta 11y ago
I wake up every day and when I walk out of my apartment building I feel like I'm walking back into the matrix. I think that 70 years ago, life wasn't so full of this bullshit. I think that there are many places in the world that still have sanity and I'm not there.
My grandmother's first boyfriend was her husband. They had ups and downs, raised kids and were always faithful. Even after my grandfather died she never went on a single date. She loves to cook, loves to do laundry, loves to clean, and does it all with a smile on her face. Raising children to her is the best. I will never have a woman or a life like that, and any of my possible offspring will have society try to neuter them their entire lives.
Worst culture ever. At least we have Game now, and porn I guess?
[deleted] 11y ago
Lols, true that. Everytime I think about relationships I think to myself how great it would be to ever find a girl that could be just like your grandmother, then I think about the possibility of actually finding one and realize my chances are slim. Then I think about the other option, banging hoes n hookers and living by myself, and it just looks better everytime I think about that last option.
Kepaso 11y ago
Dude, too late but never let a girl move in your appartment unless you ve been with her since a long time and planning for more, like a family etc
TAOofSTEVE 11y ago
This is so important. This comment should be an entirely separate post all in itself. When you move in with a girl, you give up your ability to leverage your SMV with other girls. She knows she "has you" exclusively and can leverage that against you. Moving in should be exclusive for fiances and wives.
Kepaso 11y ago
yes of course. When you move with a girl, you got to be sure that she's 100% and more into you. Each month that goes by, you smv is going down because of the familarity, the routine, you are not as mysterious as before etc...After you move in with your GF-wife, you still have to game her.
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VZPurp 11y ago
"Hypergamy doesn't care."
legendofpasta 11y ago
If people could just read that or learn that at an earlier age.
If only the men last century had the balls to not let women vote... Ever since then, they always need to vote for whichever candidate will do the most for women... little by little, they take mens rights away, start holding sway in the courts, the workforce (although not the most critical positions)... Out of wedlock births are now at 60% compared to 5% before women voting...
People scream misogyny if you trash talk women's right to vote, but really, when this was a patrirchy our culture at least had direction and integrity...
VZPurp 11y ago
How long have you been practicing game? What material did you find most useful?
legendofpasta 11y ago
This is a complex question. I've been really seriously gaming for just over a year now. The first hurdle was approach anxiety - which I got over by chatting with cashiers. Old women, old men, immigrants who were just selling me cigarettes. I eventually was willing to talk to people but didn't have a lot to say. My neighbor bought me the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People". It changed my game sooooo much. If you want to be a good conversationalist and have a good outlook on life, take that book to heart.
I generally read the front page of TIL and Askreddit before I go out for anything and then I can use TIL things as icebreakers and Askreddit questions for deepening rapport.
I have techniques for everything. I number close the same way everytime and women love it.
I initiate contact as soon as possible. Skin on skin. Just grabbing someone's hand and giving a little squeeze while smiling during a point of interest in your story is almost orgasmic to some people. You'll see IOI's right away when this happens. Blushing is a green light for asking for a date or getting closer. Playing with hair is a less strong green light.
Strike while the iron is hot. has she given you three IOI's? Is she blushing? NOW KISS.
Eye contact.
When you compliment, or flirt, don't pause, just keep going with your story. Something I do is "So then the flux capacitor, oh my god you look cute when you smile (or "I can't stop thinking about kissing you")- the flux capictor gets actiavted at 88 miles per hour" kind of thing. If you kino while you compliment mid story, while you smile, while you make eye contact its like sensation overload and women have no way to defend from this multi-front war.
I could write for ages on this subject...
VZPurp 11y ago
I'd read it all. I'm a voracious reader. I'm always interested in the personal red pill stories. They're just so fascinating!
I concur with How to Win Friends and Influence people. I'd also recommend Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. That one got me into the idea of compliance testing and driving someone to comply.
legendofpasta 11y ago
I'm going to torrent Influence tonight. Thanks for the tip. You can never have enough tools!
I'll write more on my gaming later. I'm at work and have been writing a little too much. Here's one of my old Seddit FR's for now
VZPurp 11y ago
Awesome FR! Damn. I need to get out again, haha.
legendofpasta 11y ago
I'll give you one of my favourite lines -
Me: "Hey, how are you?"
Standard girl: "I'm good"
Me: put my hand on her hip, or elbow - just generally stand in her space "You look good" and then immediately move on. "You'll never guess what I learned today... " and then say something from TIL or some shit. That way, she doesn't have to try to be as clever as you, you sly devil, she just gets to enjoy your escalation.
I use this successfully all the time. Its the best.
How are you? "good" you look good.
BAM. Put this on in your back pocket. Carry it always