TL;DR - First approach ever. Get hot girls number. Rejected because im too short, but thanks to TRP I realise fuck this bitch, next + if I did a better approach, I could have actually pulled her
So today I made my first approach. Nothing big, but for me its a huge step.
Driving home from work and I see a really attractive girl running long the pavement. I'm really into fitness, so nturally girls that are into fitness aswell really strike a chord with me. And she wasn't just running along for the sake of it. The girl had a pace on her. Like easily a sub 20 minute 5k pace.
I'm driving slow due to traffic and think fuck it. As soon as I am infront of her I motion for her to take her headphones out. I keep it simple. Ask if she is single, she is, ask is she wants to go for a drink, she says ok. Here is where some of TRP is slowly making its way into my brain.
Me : Great let me grab you number
Her : Do you have facebook instead?
Me : (dgaf attitute) Haha facebook? Look if your not interested dont worry about it
Her : 077xxxxxxxx....
Normally I would have given her my facebook, but I felt she was looking for a quick flake. I pushed through, showing that I wasn't too bothered about the fact she might not be interested and it payed off.
So I text her a few hours later and we exchange instragrams for some casual picture stalking. Now normally I would try to chat for hours by text, but again, TRP is slowly working its way in. I aim for one thing only. A date. She asks a bunch of questions. Age, occupation, where I live, where I train etc. I reply with "Do you want me to fax a copy of my passport over with that? Too many questions, lets grab a drink and find out in person". Old me would have answered all of them in great detail, but I'm learning.
Here comes the rejection. "Ok but height? thats a biggie". - Now I know whats coming. Too short. Its painfully obvious.
Now part of me wanted to just wave this off just to get to the date (advice on if I should have + how would be appreciated, I chose not too because the idea of turning up to the date and just being cruely rejected for my height wasnt my idea of a fun time) But I chose to just keep it simple.
Me : A modest 5'9
Her : Ah I dont date anyone under 6'
Dont get me wrong. I was angry. I was annoyed. But most of all?
Most of all I just thought "fuck this bitch next". Its not me, its her, shes the problem here. Any girl willing to just reject a guy for his height is not worth shit in my eyes. Thats a big step for me.
Then, I took a bigger step.
Its actually my fault (not in a negative way). I had a brief interaction with a very hot woman. She invested nothing in me, knew nothing about me and for some reason I expected her to just drop it all for a date with me? If I had taken the time to approach her properly, get her laughing, get her into my frame, I could have been 5'2 and still pulled her.
She didn't say no because of the height, she said no because I didn't get her invested from the start, so why would she say yes unless I met every single one of her arbitrary measures of attractiveness?
I've come a long way thanks to TRP and I'm only just starting.

An_All-Beef_Engineer 9y ago
/u/cazzah123 Have some fun with the height next time. Tell them you're a midget, but you're also a tripod. They'll get it.
SeekingTheWay 9y ago
"Ok but height? thats a biggie".
"just bring a measuring tape and check for yourself. see you at 8"
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Me : A modest 5'9
Her : Ah I dont date anyone under 6'
10 years later(me 36, her 36):
Her:Hey handsome nice car you have there, will you take me for a ride?
Me:Age and weight?
Her:What? Gentlemen shouldn't ask a lady about these things...
Me:I don't date fugly women.
Her:How shallow and judgmental of you! You will never find happiness with this kind of attitude - proceeds to flip because not being used to rejection.
joseph_fuzzco_Jr 9y ago
That last bit kills me. So true.
UCISee 9y ago
This is the best response to a height question.
Her: Height?
You: Weight?
Her: Why does my weight matter?
You: Why does my height matter?
Her:...........
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Monkey_Jerk 9y ago
The sadder part is it's not even hard keeping the weight off. They just have to not stuff junk food down their throats.
Strike48 9y ago
Even worse than that, most girls just have to be at an appropriate weight to look decent for most guys and they can't even bother with that. The very bare minimum, don't be a fatass. No, that's too difficult and complicated. Instead they bitch that guys can't appreciate "curves" and other stupid fat acceptance horse shit. Guys have to lose the fat and then get juicy at the gym. I don't mind it because I like working out and love being above the rest of the unfit world, but it just shows the difference in hard work required by either side to be at a solid good attractive look.
All this referring to the fatties of course who refuse to acknowledge their issues and expect more than they deserve.. I love my short, thin girls.
Govedo13 9y ago
Not fully true. You cannot indeed change your height now. But if someone trains swimming, bastball or volleyball actively in their teens he could get 2-3 extra inches because those sports benefit greatly the growth. So If one is not so big or short he should send his children to train intensive one of those sports.
Also most women are stupid I am 1.78(5 something. Inch) and have no problem to present myself as 1.80. (6). It is all about how you sale yourself.
The_Man11 9y ago
From which orifice did you pull this broscience?
UCISee 9y ago
Truth. I don't have a height problem either but one of my best friends is an Asian dude so as you can imagine, he's no Yao Ming. He owns that shit though. You would be surprised how ofter "Height doesn't matter when we're horizontal!" works for him.
KhazarKhaganate 9y ago
I have a 6' asian friend who is ~160 lb (so he's thin) and one asian girl has offered herself to him one time and he rejected out of "shame" and worries of "sluttyness".
Still a virgin and will likely stay that way forever.
Don't worry about height and shit. All that seems to matter is the ambition, location, and money.
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vaelamin 9y ago
Considering how stupid women can be i wonder if they could even tell the difference between those few inches?
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Strike48 9y ago
Reminds me of this. http://i.imgur.com/glMIV.jpg
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"You almost made it son" hahaha
phibetared 9y ago
This one is (was?) easy. Simply tell her she is coming running with on next Friday afternoon (or whenever). It's not really a "date", so it's easy for her to say yes. After the run you go to the juice place and have a healthy drink. Then you tell her you have to go, thanks for the run.
Then let her wonder who she just hung out with and what just happened. Something good, easy, fun just happened. She'll be happy and wonder what will happen next.
You didn't report exactly how the conversation ended. She asked about height, she said nobody under 6 feet, and you said "Ok, sorry to bother you, bye"????
If not, maybe it is salvageable (sp?). If you can out run her... do so... then say "What, you can't keep up with a guy who is 5 8" (or whatever)?" Give her shit after proving you are physically better than her.
cazzah123 9y ago
It ended like this
Me ok good chatting anyways
Her I have small boobs anyways you weren't missing out on much
Me well I'm a solid c cup, can't be having bigger boobs than the girl I'm with
No reply from her
SeekingTheWay 9y ago
oh man... you were back when she said that thing about the boobs. could've ended the convo right there but she didn't. shows interest. you kinda killed it. but you are learning, so just keep at it and you'll be fine.
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You did fine. There is no better approach, you just gave up the moment the shit test about height came out. You bought into the frame. That is a shame.
Shit tests are always fun when they come out, because they mean she is intrigued but is still testing the waters out to see if you are someone she can respect or someone she can walk all over. Use them to your advantage next time.
Big_Daddy_PDX 9y ago
The FB response was great. Good job. All this discussion over text = lame. The answer is, lets talk over coffee.
Also, I might be alone on this but if you get rejected and your first though is "fuck this bitch", you're DIW. If she isn't interested in you that doesn't make her a bitch. If you have that attitude, chicks pick up on it. It doesn't come off as IDGAF, but bitter or emotional. Something to think about.
Gorkildeathgod 9y ago
Dude, of some bitch told me she didn't date under 6 I would hurt myself laughing. She's so fucking stupid it's sad. I'd ditch her on the spot. Wouldn't even give her a second chance even if she begged for it.
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DforDeadpool 9y ago
Even if it was a test, what a dumb bitch. I'd like to see her after the wall.
Timmytanks40 9y ago
Man the wall isn't actually real. It's just this thing losers made up to feel like one day they'll get their revenge.
It's like when we tell the little poor people they'll inherit the kingdom of heaven so they'll continue taking our shit.
Some will hit a wall but MOST of them are going to get saved. There will always be a smuck in white armor to take care of them until menopause kicks in and by then the game is over anyway.
Govedo13 9y ago
Reality check for you. Open any dating site or app. Set as search parameter. 18-25 years. Browse few pages and count the ones they you would fuck. Do the same when you change the parameter to 35-43 years.
Count again and compare the results.After that get real and get rid of your male hamster. None normal should care if tthe ugly bitches fucked by some looser. You should focus on what you fuck instead.
ItsTheHomeWrecker 9y ago
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masnera 9y ago
and revenge is for those who failed to get out of Anger Phase.
DforDeadpool 9y ago
Earth is round: Another lie which only plebs believe.
As rich powerful sexy alpha men we know that the wall isn't a thing, Earth is flat, pigs can fly and women are capable of unconditional love.
ioef_afterdark 9y ago
Her: Height? You: 7 ft 5 in. Partner count?
masnera 9y ago
your passing the Anger Phase with flying colors.
DevilishRogue 9y ago
Your first mistake was being honest about your height. Knowing up front that she's stupid enough to care more about an arbitrary quality like height than the qualities that maketh the man should have put her instantly to plate in your mind in which case agree and amplify is the default: "Height? It's about nine and a half inches - does that really matter though, I always thought it was how you use it that counts?"
mamapop 9y ago
Usually my response to height is the size of me penis
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
You just saw me in person.... why, how short are you? I got standards, girl.
JDeegs 9y ago
I thought he was in his car
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Scottsdale48 9y ago
Can you imagine if we said to women, 'Sorry I don't date anyone under a C cup.'
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I say shit like that all the time. It works wonders to tell women you "only date" - busty girls, girls under 30, slim girls, well above average looking girls. They eat that stuff up. Women love being qualified and if you make it about their age, breast size, body shape it makes the conversation sexual as well and makes her feel like she is special and elite. It makes her realise you are a worthy man and you dont eat table scraps.
The girl in OPs story was just shit testing him, she is upset that he did not blast through the test and ravage her. It is what she wanted. That is what is so wonderful about the red pill. OP is 90% of the way there and now he can post in here and experienced men explain it was a shit test. Next time the situation arises and a girl mentions his height he can just say "I'm a dwarf do you want to make some midget porn".
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phibetared 9y ago
So I don't mess this up, you say you "only date 'x' type of girls" to a girl that FITS (or thinks she fits) that qualification, right?
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You hit the nail on the head. If she is Tall - you don't date short girls, Rich - you dont date poor girls, Busty - you dont date flat chested girls etc, etc...
skittles_man 9y ago
Shit test failed. It's okay, though. Props to being brazen and pulling a move like that while driving. Brush up on passing shit tests and you should be good to go in the future.
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My response to this would've been something along the lines of "and what makes you think I want to date you?"
Pressure flips are pretty wonderful things. This tactic shows that you're sharp, that you don't take shit, and it also takes the spotlight off of whatever flaw that was in question and instead reframes the interaction so that she is now qualifying herself to you.
Your approach was fine. It wasn't the best, but you can practically say anything when you're one of the few men who still has the balls to approach in this day and age. Your actions will always speak more loudly than your words. Your problem here was that you fell for her trap.
As my old sales professor says, "no" means "try harder."
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Confuse them with the metric system, I like it
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"Why I'm the one who's going to have to climb up your legs to get some".
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You: I was only in it for the sex, no dating.
Or:
You first. Boob size?
KhazarKhaganate 9y ago
Very nice.
Usually when this happens, like a girl fucking dares to talk about height requirements like as if she is so valuable... I go with: "Wait, you actually think you're in my league and are placing requirements on me?"
Look she already rejected you by literally saying you're not tall enough. The way to defeat that shit-test is to literally question everything she believes about herself.
She has literally pegged you as "not valuable, but I might date you if you were 6 foot" It's entitlement. Once she gets smacked down from her throne, she will think highly of you, even if she gets mad or something.
Prepare for shit-storm from this kind of heavy-handed response, but it's a good shit-storm. She should be mad. You shouldn't feel bad at all. You are rejecting her.
Do it with conviction... like you really can't believe she thought she was in your league. She'll respond with anger, apologies, or insults, but trust me, she will question herself. You just took a battering ram to her shit test.
If she's apologetic she has submitted. If she's responding angrily, she literally does think she is more valuable than you.
More safe responses:
I mean technically, she's negotiating. "you're not tall enough" == "so what else you got to offer?"... instead you turn the tables on her: "what do you have to offer?"
The best responses to any shit test that is a requirement/rejection ==> negating it as an offer, and twisting the tables to demand from her what she has to offer.
HumanSockPuppet 9y ago
This right here.
You could also turn it into a pressure flip with intentional misinterpretation:
Then invite her to join you in some activity you've already planned.
Don't let her waste your time. Just steamroll over her bullshit and cut to the chase.
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This is an even better come-back than both of mine.
Meat-on-the-table 9y ago
Never do this. Don't bring up a possible boyfriend/husband first. Always assume she's single--if she's not, she'll bring it up, and you can go from there.
sqerl 9y ago
Unless you're dating a bitch that doesn't tell guys she has a boyfriend cause she loves the attention.
....just sayin' :)
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Conversely, a single bitch will sometimes mention she's married/LTR as a form of shit testing. I just ignore it, and keep on gaming until she walks away.
Cristoff13 9y ago
Its not like you're a midget. You're actually average height. Seriously, I can't believe this is the main reason she rejected you. A woman who only goes out with men 6' or more is arbitrarily rejecting 85% of the male population.
And of course men cannot do anything about their height. A woman who can't come up with a better excuse to reject men is an idiot and you are better off without them.
cazzah123 9y ago
Read my post. She didnt reject me because of my height. I didnt build enough comfort and interest in my approach to get her out. It could have been anything she said no to, it just happened to be my height, but had I actually had a good approach, got her laughing etc she would have gone out with me anyways
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cazzah123 9y ago
Kinda noticing that now, which is a shame but it's all a learning process
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cazzah123 9y ago
Sorry if I'm not quite on your level yet, I've only been learning this stuff a few months
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At least you made the effort bro, that's 90% of it in the first place. Also the fact that you didn't feel the need to lie about your height is commendable. You'll get there, keep at it brother.
thebestpossible 9y ago
Yeah man, women say things...doesnt mean you ever have to listen.
If you work on yourself you will become happier and slay hotter poon. It's evolution. But if you work on yourself trying to get validation from women (who themselves are really trying to seek the validation of a quality human) you'll waste all your progress.
eddiae 9y ago
ayylmao at manlets, when will you learn ?
cazzah123 9y ago
I actually fall into king manlet. I'm just tall enough to think I have a chance, but I'm still a manlet
putinbusch 9y ago
Hahah. Thats the right attitude man. Just gotta use that on the women. Keep kicking goals mate