I always just tell them it's cool and jeep making out. Eventually they usually just get sexuality frustrated and give into their whims. To be fair, this works for me because I actually don't really care if we fuck and also because I'm really good with foreplay and making out.

I actually get tuned off by begging for sex. I just have to forego it maybe once or twice and then all the stupid games vanish like clockwork.

Fully agreed. When LMR displays itself in this way, which is the most common, always agree and disregard. Your game is to offer her a false alternative: she can choose not to have sex with you...right now. But 'just chill' still means she'll be in bed with you, half naked, cuddling, kissing, making out, and that's a road that leads only to one destination. LMR is about letting her take a few stops along the road so she doesn't even realize she's making the trip all the way.

Ironically, the education system more or less clued me into "agree and disregard" with all their propaganda videos about not pressuring the girl into having sex verbally. As soon as you're okay with not having sex, it raises your value because they assume you're getting it somewhere else, or that you're not desperate, etc.

Agree and disregard or back off / go cold / try again later.

Whatever you do, don't fall into the trap of being a good little beta and saying "no problem honey, I'll wait for you!", before going on another 12 dates.

If she pulls LMR, it's a shit test. Respond with coldness and dread. Don't play to her strengths (agreeing or arguing). Play to yours (keeping your options open, doing something else).

Very good. Thanks for the information, brother. I always thought plausible deniability as baiting the hamster. You bait the hamster so it stops spinning and jumps off of its wheel. At that period of time you can make her act on her emotional desires ie fucking an attractive man. Or just fucking if she's really horny. When her hamster eats and starts spinning again, you bait it with something it likes one more time. And you make her act on her emotions once more. Wash-rinse-repeat till you get laid.

Usually, after penetration, all of her mental defenses are gone and she'd pretty much unleash the sexual beast within her. After she fucks you once, she can do it several times more because, fuck it, why not? She already did it so doing it again once or twice doesn't hurt.

Your solution to LMR "agree and disregard" was originally proposed by Mystery and it's called "freeze out". It works but you're missing the theoretical point completely.

Women are not hesitant to the idea of having sex easily for fear of being judged, they are hesitant because evolutionarily they needed to receive commitment in exchange for sex so that the male would stick around to help raise the baby. Their survival depended on that.

So when a woman gives you LMR, this is her unconscious mind telling her "you are in danger. You don't know this man well enough so you don't know if he will stick around when you're pregnant". By freezing out, or as you call it, agreeing and disregarding, you are telling her unconscious "I WILL stick around, even if I don't receive sex". This puts her mind at ease and breaks the LMR.

The good old one step forward two steps back approach.

This genererally works whenever you are escelating. You do something she likes, she feels slutty or wants to be in power. Now you take two steps back and she is going to be so desperate to get back where you stopped that she forgets about everything else.

If you do this properly throughout your escalation she most likely won't put up a LMR either. You chose when the kiss stops, you tease the fuck out of her before you go slightly back for a while, then escalating again. Do this every time before removing a piece of clothing, especially the bra, pants and panties.

Maybe you can help me out here.

Often when faced with lmr, I simply move to next, then she does it anyway.

not tonight, I'm not that type of girl.

Me: Cool, then swing by tomorrow. "i start getting dressed"

hampstering backtrack sex.

This happens much more often than not. I'd say at least 8/10 lmr displays (in the bedroom). Is this dangerous? Am I doing something that is not recommended for some reason?

I will of course try this out. Just want to know if and why I should not be doing this. I do not presume you wrong, nor am I arguing as a self-absorbed outlier. Just always looking to be sharper. Thanks!

So I brought over a girl who has a boyfriend and no matter what I tried, she would not let me fuck her. I was very persistent and disregarded all her comments about her boyfriend. I continued to make out with her and make her feel good. It took a while, but with persistence, I got to 3rd base multiple times. I had to restart from making out, to touching her tits, to fingering her and then attempting to take her pants off. I think I went through that cycle like 5-6 times, but sometimes you can do everything right, but they just won't cave. The only option I had left was to just rip her pants off, but with girls calling rape these days, I was careful not to take it too far.

This entire time, she kept going off about how her boyfriend is an amazing guy, calls her beautiful every day and is something she can build a future with. She was basically in a really good relationship and could not figure out why she was throwing it all the way. Her hamster was spinning so hard it was hard not to laugh.

Icing her out is the best way to bypass LMR and the safest way to not get pegged by a rape accusation that you may or may not deserve depending on the situation.

Agree and amplify works for a lot of shit tests, but not all. For example:

Are you having sex with my sister?

Yeah! Totally I fucked her raw dawg in our marital bed bb!

WTF YOU PIG I'M LEAVING YOU

I'm just kidding around

WHY WOULD YOU EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT

Nice! This has worked for me, I used to be a sneaky ass bastard. So many times of just stopping, and then fingering her a little after 10 minutes, and then off the rest comes.

More recently I got up and told her "you can go now" after LMR... she took her own pants off then and there, said "I was just going to do it!" and I made her beg and tell me I was being unfair a couple times before I got back in bed. I was pretty turned off by that point though, should have probably sent her away anyway.

I like to say 'Just open the doors, and let them think it was their idea to step through.'

Create opportunities exactly as you've described, always laying the path towards your cock, but never mention the cock.

Also, check out 'the Tao of Steve', a c-grade rom-com with some brilliant insights into pickup game. To paraphrase: "Be excellent, be be disinterested, be gone."

Your post is spot on. Upvote.