Rumi on Women | TheRedPill

To those who don't know, Rumi was a Muslim mystic, they are also called sufis. He wrote a book called Masnavi. It has insights about life, religion, spirituality, God, nature of men and women, and etcetera. It's possible to find RP nuggets too, obviously. Though I forgot in which section of the book, he said "Women are inclined to be promiscuous. Even the most proper woman, if she were to be exalted to heavens and if she were to see a dick on Earth, she'd give up on heavens and jump on that dick" or something like this. Sorry for the bad translation by the way but you get the message. Classical AWALT. And he also wrote this, warning us men:

"The evil Satan said to God: "You who give everyone their sustenance, I ask you an effective trap for my hunting."

God showed him gold, silver and herds of horses and said, "You can fool the people with these."

Satan said, "very well," but parted with his big lips hanging like orange pulp.

God then provided him with gold, pearls and precious metals and said, "Take these traps as well, you accursed creature."

The devil replied, "O you mighty provider. Give me more than this."

God gave him pastry and sweets, good wine and silk material.

The devil said, "You almighty, come to my help. I need more than that in order to ensnare them with palm fronds. Thus your brave ones will break those ties with this trap, with these strings of ambition; those of yours who are trustworthy will be distinguished from those who are not. O you Sultan of the Highest Throne, I want a trap that is strong enough to fool people and send them spinning down headfirst."

God put forth wine and gypsy dancers and Satan smiled half-heartedly to show he was only partially satisfied.

But when God showed him the beauty of women, which melts away men’s wisdom and patience, Satan snapped his fingers and began to dance for joy. "Give, Give!" he said, "now I have found what I wanted." When he saw those seductive eyes that made men confused and indecisive, those beautiful faces that scorched the heart like incense, the beauty spots, the eyebrows, the ruby lips, it was as if God was manifest from behind a thin lace curtain. Seeing all these, the Devil danced with joy."

AWALT, since the beginning of the time. Be careful and don't lose frame just because women are sexy.

Permalink

monsieurhire2 10y ago

Satan and God; conspiring together to torture humanity for shits and giggles.

neverendingplush 10y ago

I've always wondered why it seems like such a fuckin game. I mean I understand the concept of free will that the bible mentions god stressing so much, but at the same time what really was the point of the apple being specifically placed in the Garden of Eden. Had it not been EVE it would have been someone else probably a billion years from then.

confused-duck 10y ago

what really was the point of the apple being specifically placed in the Garden of Eden

the point is religion is supposed to fix you and you can't get fixed if you're not broken
apple makes all the people broken

monsieurhire2 10y ago

In all likelihood, the "God" of the religious texts is a stand-in for the ruling elite as they idealize themselves. They're constantly obsessed with perfection, which requires loyalty and obedience, or so they think. They're constantly worried that their subjects will rebel or subvert them. How do they test who is truly loyal and virtuous so they can distinguish between who to reward and promote and who to banish, punish, kill, torture, etc.? They need someone to tempt people into doing bad things. Enter the Devil.

In real life, if you go up the food chain of a criminal organization, you'll usually fine that the people at the very top have ties to the estasblishment and are protected to some degree by the government. Their job is to thin the herd of the weak and non-virtuous. The government can't do this directly because it would look bad. But what it can do is sit back and do nothing and profit from trying to enforce the law. The strong virtuous people do what they are told and surive. The weak disobedient people get seduced into vice and either die or become slaves in some way.

[deleted]

squirestrat 10y ago

It really does speak truths. How often have we seen societies elite completely lose their shit over a woman? I'm talking about the men we see in headlines: politicians, sports stars, famous actors, musicians -- men who have it all, flaking over some pussy. Pussy has caused empires to collapse. Always be weary.

One of the best lessons in attaining success and maintaining power, as taught by my boy Drake:

Ain't no pussy on a pedestal.

tgeda 10y ago

I think we tend to over-exaggerate the importance of pussy. No empire has collapsed over a woman.

[deleted]

HeinousFu_kery 10y ago

Why do women have pubic hair?

To hide the hook....

DocWattz 10y ago

My father's favorite joke. An important one to pass on the the next generation.

BlueFreedom420 10y ago

The Roman empire. A emperor's mother became Christian and then the emperor became christian. The fall of Rome was soon after.

It's not always the pursuit of pussy that destroys.

tgeda 10y ago

That is complete and utter nonsense. ROFL

[deleted] 10y ago

[deleted]

tgeda 10y ago

There is a thing called the femme fetal archetype, it gets alot of people hard and is a recurring theme throughout history and literature. The presence of these neat little memes in a "historical event" is a tell-tell sign that that event is exaggerated or completely made up. Those stories you linked are myths and/or highly exaggerated.

The Chinese stories are just massive exaggerations like most of their 3 kingdoms "history." These were originally oral traditions loosely based on real events but designed to be entertaining or to teach lessons to children. The story of Cleopatra was romanticized by Shakespeare in his play "Cleopatra and Mark Anthony." The bible should go without saying (although its message is true and relevant. )

You just googled some B.S that you don't understand. And btw its beta as fuck to buy into this narrative of pussy power. Vaginas are not that powerful.

-1

WhySoRuff 10y ago

Let's say they are exaggerations, better yet legends. You don't think the premise is made up do you? The authors of these "stories" took actual events and embellished to make the story entertaining enough to tell others and stand the test of time.

Thotwrecker 10y ago

Men control empires, and the men who have controlled empires in the past have been severely influenced by pussy. You are right in that no woman collapsed an empire, but many societies have been shaped by female influence over the male controllers.

WhySoRuff 10y ago

Napoleon was the most powerful man in Europe at one time yet he was a slave to an older Josephine (I believe that was her name). Now tell me friends, who was the most powerful person In Europe at that time? Also, pussy doesn't need to directly crumble an empire. All it needs to do is set off a chain of events that lead to the crumbling.

tgeda 10y ago

Empires have been shaped by women directly, such as Queen Elizabeth, Catherine the great etc, or indirectly through assassinations, intrigue and politics. But in a strictly sexual sense, as if there was a vagina so powerfull that it collapsed empires?

No.

That is notion is just the classic beta pussy-worship that is so endemic in our culture. Even the story of Cleopatra is an exaggeration from the British, Helen of troy is a straight up myth.

DforDeadpool 10y ago

No empire has collapsed over a woman.

Well, yeah, except hundreds of them did.

[deleted]

monobrauw 10y ago

I don't doubt the assertion that "empires" have collapsed over a vagina, but I don't really have a concrete example. Care to show some?

DforDeadpool 10y ago

Well, there are hundreds of legends like Helen of Troy. Besides legends;

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/feminism-responsible-for-the-fall-of-rome/

I'm not so educated on history but I bet there are many examples.

[deleted]

tgeda 10y ago

"Women are inclined to be promiscuous. Even the most proper woman, if she were to be exalted to heavens and if she were to see a dick on Earth, she'd give up on heavens and jump on that dick"

This made me so hard, holy shit.

-3