tl:drCan we have a page here where some experienced businessmen give us some advice on where to begin with owning your own business and where to start learning everything you need to know?
Quick intro. Not trying to brag just to show context and what you can achieve if you put your head to it
Moved to a first world country some 6yrs ago. Had nothing but a shitty car. Went on the internet, downloaded some materials and started studying. Fast forward couple years later I'm in a big city, working for a big corporation and making six figures.
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The field I'm in, you can be a consultant and make some big bucks if you know your shit. Couple more years of experience at my current job and I'd like to pursue my own business consulting, in the meanwhile getting one of the biggest certs in IT with less than 55k certified people worldwide. It's my plan and I'm sticking to it.
My problem is I don't know anything about business. I mean nothing. I don't know the different types you can register for, which provides protection for your personal assets like a house, car etc. How do you keep track of expenses, determine how your taxes work (do you get a CPA to do it?), how to incorporate benefits into (if possible), if you work from home do you get tax breaks?, if you're profitable do you have a "company bank account" and pay yourself a salary or take it out of the business?. Can you buy a car with the company's cash that you'll use to travel with? Is it a good idea to have a third party company take care of all of this taxes, payroll and money stuff?
My question might seem stupid but i'm serious. I don't know where to start. If you own your own business, can you give me resources to read and study up on that explains everything Business 101 for individuals? I have a few hobbies that keep me entertained but I need to get my ducks in order in the next 2yrs or so while I study to for a big cert. It's easy to say "start your own business", but how? Registering, taxes, payroll, software, do's and don'ts, third party companys to handle part of it, lawyers? I'm lost.
Summary:
We see suggestions for making business one of your passions if you're interested to build your own small empire. I'm sure I speak for a few, we don't know where to start or where to find all the info we need. It would be great, even in a sticky post, where experienced businessmen can offer advice, preferable link to somewhere, that will teach those of us that don't know anything about starting your own business.

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blimp11 10y ago
Just go out, and do it. People over complicate the idea of business. People tend to think start ups or small businesses operate like a government bureau with strict rules, and regulations. Look at a small business from the POV "Its easier to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission"
10211799107 10y ago
Hope youre not talking about asking the tax man for forgiveness. He doesn't forgive.
blimp11 10y ago
Or forget.... Haha I'm aware, but I will elaborate on what I'm trying to say. It's important to go out and try, it's good to make mistakes and be aware of them. You gotta go out and get your feet wet. You will cross the bridges when you get to them. Too often people sit, and wait for all the stars to align the other side of the coin is that sometimes people are too hasty and make bad decisions in a rush into things. There is a balance to achieve in that regard
NakedAndBehindYou 10y ago
TRP is not the place for this kind of discussion. TRP is about sexual strategy, not business strategy.
SkorchZang 10y ago
Here's some red pill advice about it. Usually a guy wants to start a business, so he buries himself in books, talks to a lawyer about what licenses and gotchas he needs to worry about, gets some insurance sorted out, and adds his best friend (who is also clueless) as a partner. This is what I did a couple of times. It's a very emotionally satisfying way to waste your own time and money. You really feel like you're doing the right thing all the way to nowhere.
When the rubber hits the road, a fledgling business is more like an alien parasite, just some weird glob of pulsating flesh, than a beautiful cathedral built from a blueprint. Far from being all planned out, the glob has absolutely no idea what monster it is going to eventually grow into. All it knows, is it needs to eat. In those beginning stages, its only function is eating. It may well be completely unlicensed to eat according to the state's legislation, but it doesn't care. The glob eats, and it grows.
Meaning, instead of trying to theoretically foresee things, your new business needs to bite some chunks off whatever you think it's going to feed on. Right away. That's because this aspect is what determines everything else. The only muscle you absolutely need in your glob of alien goo in the beginning is the client-getting muscle, and nobody cares how you pull it off and did you have a proper business license or not when you did it. Once there's something to chew on, you start building the rest of the body, adding better teeth, more exoskeleton armor, adding new globs where you can, etc.
unsoughtiron 10y ago
Such a beautiful analogy. I am almost halfway where my monster is eating and I have no idea what it grows to become. It's been a year and the monster is thriving now but still needs a lot of glob and in the process drains me out. But luckily I am tough and getting stronger while I feed it. Also, TRP has been a huge part in this process - without TRP I would have given up on my monster long time ago..
10211799107 10y ago
Thanks for the reply. Cool analogy, sounds a bit more intimidating.
arkievisitor 10y ago
step 1: get somebody to pay you step 2: repeat
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10211799107 10y ago
This is exactly the response I was asking. Opinions on what others found to be useless time wasting and a good direction to start towards. I'm bookmarking all the books that get recommended as well as these good responses. In my situation I won't be making anything, more offer services to companies that don't have senior engineering staff on hand but need help with designs and/or upgrades. Thanks for your response.
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do you remember what he recommended? I wanted to get that book but only had time to check it now to see the post deleted..
radianceofparadise 10y ago
Starting a business is fairly easy. Building a successful business is extremely difficult. Someone might be able to give you a general guide, but it won't be enough information. Start buying books on Entrepreneurship and take lots of notes.
You'll need to do an assessment of your business idea before you even get started.
Marketing analysis- Who are your customers and how can you reach them?
Pricepoint analysis- What is the market price for your services?
Breakeven analysis- How much profit you need to cover your expenses
ROI- What's the return on your investment?
Competitive analysis- Who are your competitors? How are they successful? Is the market over or under saturated?
How will you compete? Price point? (walmart) or Differentiation? (apple) Differentiation requires high quality. Your customers see the value in your product and therefore are willing to pay more for it.
One of the most important things you must do is write a business plan. This isn't just for investors or lenders. It's to help you understand what you're doing. Include profit/loss projections for 2 years.
This is very general. Hope it helps.
10211799107 10y ago
Thanks for the input. I'm assuming all the things you're mentioning will be explained in books etc as I have no idea what or how to do them.
I was thinking of using a recruiting agency and tell them I'll do work on the side part time. Have a few associates doing this in another state, they're just careful not to do work for direct competitors. I believe they're required to take care of their own taxes and such. I'll look into that as well. Thanks for the info.
radianceofparadise 10y ago
You can outsource your accounting and HR if you plan on hiring other employees.
I can't stress the importance of the cost/benefit analysis. After all, you're going into business to make more money than you do now. Industry experience is crucial to your success. Stay at your current job and soak up EVERYTHING about how that business makes their money while you begin to build your business on the side. Good luck.
Edit- Forgot to mention. Network! Network hard. Meet successful entrepreneurs and soak up everything they say. Buy them lunch, drinks, whatever. You'll make friends who can help you succeed. Network within your industry too. You can meet talented people who can help your business grow.
10211799107 10y ago
Shit I didn't even think about networking. Places like meetup.com or so would probably be a start.
My company is huge with 48k+ employees. It's hard to see the insides of it since I usually just submit 250k+ quotes and we buy it. I don't see the vendor part, accounting etc. But I agree with you, I try to soak everything up especially when it comes to the architects and how they design. I'm known as the "why" guy already.
itgscv1 10y ago
Networking is very important, especially if you are talking international. Right now my company has a new contract with a Japanese firm, but it's a round about way with 4 different companies since we've never done business and don't know many of the people. For Japanese at least, you need some connection or land standing business relationship or they won't even consider talking.
Mr_Donnerhuhn 10y ago
The very first meetup.com event I went to wound up with me meeting a very successful guy who does advising for entrepreneurs, he's helped multiple business more than double their profits (and we're talking companies that were already raking in 8 figures annually).
Highly recommend it!
Also, read:
-Small Time Operator
-Pitch Anything
-And every single business biography/autobiography you can get your hand on
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MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Starting a corporation insulates your personal assets, unless you get a loan that you personally guarantee.
How did you do all this, but now fail to understand the basics of business? Do the same thing - get studying!
With all due respect - what's in it for me? It would be a load of hand-holding and a big stack of effort, most people who you try and help will never have the guts to actually do anything anyway. There will be endless questions like "yes, but that's a risk so I don't want to do it because it won't pay me in the meantime, how can I get rich without risk? PS I have no money and no skills and I don't like hard work."
There's actually plenty of help already out there on starting a business, no need to do it within TRP.
10211799107 10y ago
I'm an engineer. I design solutions and they buy the gear. I don't see any of the business part in a corporation with almost 50k employees.
Nothing. I'm not asking for hand holding or exact steps on how to get in this or that market etc. My question is for resources, anything to just steer in the right direction on how to start the plan and what to think about. It's the same as taking on a junior engineer and telling him to design an enterprise network solution with this and that technology. Or, instead of watching him spin his wheels and taking a shit ton of time figuring out what the hell to do, you give him an overall view of the purpose of the design, guidelines already established in the industry, what to look for and what would be a total waste. You don't hold his hand, you just point hin the right direction.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Most of it is fairly tedious. Most importantly you need a plan to get your customer's money into your bank account. Missing this off your business idea is the single biggest failing I see. So many people write an app or invent a gadget or do the thing that they like to do, but don't have a concrete plan to actually get any money.
The rest of the details you can work out as you go.
10211799107 10y ago
Thank you. I saved all the good replies to my evernote along with the books suggested by members, the ones not to read and the ones that are very good.
This post is golden for me. I do believe these opinions and suggestions from members like you and the others are valuable for those of us wanting to start out.
italianredpill 10y ago
hey mate would you give more details about what field are you in and what certification are you getting?
I am a web dev and while I do fairly good, my goal is to someday run my own business or at least getting into contracting (very lucrative in some big cities in Europe)
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10211799107 10y ago
Thanks for the reference. No I'm not. Senior Network Engineer.
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aditas 10y ago
This is really important. You need to actually clock time as if you're working for someone else. Even if it is an hour or two daily. Just make sure ou have no zero days.
ScarletFever82 10y ago
Hmm, interesting... If your not savy enough to figure this out alone, I strongly suggest investing in consultants, advisors, and liability insurance. Business professionals worth a shit don't put their livelihood in the hands of amatures, this is true for you, and anybody who may not hire you.
I don't do business with dreamers, I do business with professionals, this /ask_Reddit screams unprofessional.
Good luck brah!
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10211799107 10y ago
I've met two people so far through other associates that did just that. Family business, always rolled around in money, now just step in and continue on. It's hard work no doubt, but someone who moved to a first world country and have to start literally with fuckall, that requires balls. I ignore the dick replies, so far there has been really good ones that I saved and ordered some books already.
Rasalom72 10y ago
I think the best place to start learning is a place called "Google"....
Nobody here is going to hand hold you into success... own your shit and start looking for business courses online. Jesus.
10211799107 10y ago
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Who would have known that Google could be of any help.
You're missing the whole point. There are tons of info on everything. Sifting through shit and determining if it is what I want is the problem.
Thanks for your valuable input. As always, it's appreciated.
ColdEiric 10y ago
This is not the bucket for crabs. You and your kind, you damned crab, belong in TBP.