What is Frame? Frame is the basic structure that holds something up. Frame is your overall reality. Frame determines what's up for discussion and what isn't. You may have heard the expression "frame is all". This is very true. Most redpill concepts that are concerned with how you deal with others such as abundance, confidence, shit tests and even MTGOW are unified in frame.
Your value You may have heard that your value is Looks, Money, Status. Or that women are attracted to powerful men. Or that they want alphas and detest betas or any number of slogans that basically tell you the exact same thing: women seek a man with status and status is simply your place in the hierarchy of power. Many of our primate cousins know of only violent power, since this is their primary means of settling all issues. As a human, you have the luxury of exhibiting power in many different ways without coming in harm's way.
What is power? Power is the ability to affect someone greatly, while being affected very little. Consider a billionaire. He could give you a million dollars and he may not even notice his life change. Yet, he could change your life profoundly. This gives the billionaire power over regular folk. People want to be affected by him. Think of a rock star on stage. He can put a million people in a certain mood, while they individually do very little for him. Think of a robber who has a gun to your head. He can change or terminate your existence, while you wont be able to impact him proportionately.
The frame of power One of my key principles is to always interact with others from a position of power. If you can master this single principle, you have unlocked 90% of TRP automatically.
- I only take a job where I am needed more than I need the job
- I only go to a party where my presence is cherished
- I only pursue a girl who wants me more than I want her.
There is no need to go overboard with this. The power frame does not concern casual fleeting encounters and mundane items in your life. Your barista may not necessarily need you more. Apply common sense. Don't mess with the tax people saying you don't need them as much as they need you.
Achievement unlocked: IDGAF The first change you notice once you simply do not care anymore about practically anything.
Not invited to the party? Well, if you weren't invited, you don't want to be there. Find other friends. Not selected for the job? A job where you were not courted for your skills in not where you want to be anyway. Work on being the best at you do. A woman rejected you? You just read her wrong; she wants you less than you want her. Find one who wants you more than you want her.
Eventually, nothing will phase you. Nothing! Its because failures are not failures anymore, they are data. The feeling of not giving a fuck is absolutely exhilarating. You will never go back to being a needy, validation seeking, wimp anymore. That part of you is gone forever.
Achievement unlocked: Abundance One of the great things about always moving on from people who want you less than you want them is a consistent abundance mentality in everything. This includes not just women, but jobs, cities, hobbies, your friends and really anything else social. There are thousands of living situations you can experiment with and some will work and the rest, you can change! Don't like big cities? Try a resort town... and work remotely. Boss is a hard-ass? Find another or work for yourself. And oh! women are plentiful, even the most beautiful ones. Regardless, focus on the ones who want you rather than the ones you want. When your default position is to move on from those who don't want you more, there is no more oneitis!
Achievement unlocked: Fearlessness All fear is fear of loss and Abundance in everything makes you fearless to a substantial extent since there is no such thing as attachment and loss anymore. As you grow more fearless, it shows in your eyes. Your boss may avoid your gaze. When you speak, people listen, because they know you would never say something to please someone or out of fear. Both men and women are drawn to you. You become a leader of men and the object of female desire. As you unlock more achievements, you see women stealing glances at you. Women who did not know you exist will now smile and chat you up.
Achievement unlocked: Interesting personality Your courage to experiment, travel and try new things and move on to new people will give you a broad and rich life experience that you will naturally exude and you will captivate people with interesting stories and anecdotes from your life. Bit by bit, people who know you will talk to others and you develop a reputation for being interesting.
Achievement unlocked: No Approach anxiety I simply do not pursue women who want me less than I want them. This automatically means I have no approach anxiety of any sort. I will speak to whoever I want and say whatever I feel like saying. This is because I'm not interested in a woman until I know she is interested in me. A lot of times, I don't even need to approach women, they will approach me. In fact, most women I've been with first approached me. "Wait a minute, Dr Dre, that won't happen to me! Bitches won't approach me, that shit cray" you may think. My experience is that if you are physically fit and have the above achievements unlocked, a consistent frame of power means women will approach you out of basic female curiosity and usually some attraction. Converting it to intimacy is a matter of simple game and not fucking things up.
Achievement unlocked: Confidence Once you have internalized frame, your interactions are almost subconsciously always from a position of power. You will do this without even a second thought. At this point, everything you do, you do with confidence. Again, by confidence I mean that you know your read and judgement are correct and the certainty that you can handle anything that may go wrong. I know with confidence that when a woman approaches me, her voice trembles just a bit because she's nervous. I know that when she says she doesn't know any good bars around here, its a covert invitation. I know that her giggles for my stupid jokes are due to her being completely in my frame. I already know with near total certainty I can sleep with her if I want to. This gentlemen, is confidence. Everything I say and do now does not matter. Only how I say it. (Since I define confidence as something you know and feel for yourself, I see no sense in faking it.)
Achievement unlocked: Shit tests passed Women who approached you first will rarely shit-test you. But sometimes they do and I do approach women who do not first approach me. However, I do not ever find myself needing to wonder if something is a shit-test and look up what the best response is. Frame takes care of it. For example: one of my plates asked me why I need to be with three women (I'm honest about non-monogamy from the beginning since its never stopped any woman from sleeping with me). "You are greedy. Why do you need three women?". "Honey," I said, "I'm not greedy, I'm generous. I'm sharing my love with all my bitches". I realized later that this was some sort of shit test, but when it occurred, I basically said what I believed was the truth. A powerful frame is exactly that. You are utterly certain that your value is a lot more and are unperturbed by any drama or posturing because you have abundance and are ready to walk away.
Summary Your value makes you attractive. Frame exhibits your value and holds it in focus so that women don't lose interest easily. You still need to be physically in shape (lift!) and know how to retain the attraction (be good at sex).

BlaiseDB 11y ago
Status and power are secondary traits. Women seek fitness in the form of providers and protectors using three indicia: looks, money and how you carry yourself (frame). Status tend to be defined circularly, without any substance. Power can flow from money or how you carry yourself, it doesn't just happen. Even then, acquiring money is about how you carry yourself. Not everyone can simply inherit wealth, they have to go out and take it.
Looks will fade and money can be lost or stolen, but your frame can never be taken from you, once built.
IDGAF is a simplistic attitude. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
The first step is to shed the idea of being outcome oriented and being goal oriented instead. Attending a certain party, getting a certain job or dating/fucking a certain woman is a specific outcome and doesn't matter in light of a larger goal of social climbing, career advancement or overall relationship success.
Next is to favour a development orientation and not worry about specific goals. Attaining goals just makes you lazy. Perfection is a direction, not a destination. Always be improving and you will pass milestones without thinking about them.
Finally, self-actualize: be the person you can be; be the person you are supposed to be.
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This is so true once you've experienced it. Told me that one year ago and I'd think you're talking out of your ass.
no_face 11y ago
Looks and money are proxies for status. Status is pretty much defined by your peer group. In high school simply being popular can get you laid because popularity defines status. Jocks and frat boys get laid because they have status, even if they don't have looks or money.
Primate studies show that all primates are status oriented and what constitutes status is the position in the hierarchy. It's a bit more complex than this but its sufficient to understand that you need to rise in a hierarchy and you achieve that using power interactions. As you go higher you see people absolutely treat you differently
BlaiseDB 11y ago
In those cases, status is simply related to fitness as I described. In the animal kingdom, fitness/status is based on being able to kick ass. Jocks, and their associated physiques (looks) demonstrate that fitness and are therefore given status. Nerds have no fitness indicators until they are on their way to turning their brains into cash.
I can't really comment on frat boys but like tends to attract like. People with looks, money and/or charisma tend to coalesce. Others can ride their coat tails and benefit from a sort of halo effect. Where popularity is not based on money or looks then that falls to charisma/frame.
In high school I was basically invisible until the last year. I had no money to speak of, looked geeky, and was quiet and shy. Then I reinvented myself, joined the army reserves and sang in a rock band and boom, was the most popular kid for that one fleeting semester before heading off to university. I was young and unplugged so I didn't take full advantage of the way people (especially girls) treated me.
[deleted] 11y ago
It would be best if OP make threads about look and money now
BlaiseDB 11y ago
I will give you my synopsis. If you like it, I will post something more detailed.
Look: Physique + style + genetics (less age) Lift for physique; use some cash and research for style; use work-arounds or surgical surgery to get over any genetic disadvantages.
Money: Many irons in the fire; dark triad connections; pimped out resumes, leverage your other qualities. Persistence.
FrameWalker 11y ago
Rejection is better than regret. You can still approach to assess the situation
no_face 11y ago
As I said, I approach all I want. But the key is I never want her more than she wants me. A woman always sees me aloof and strong.
Belerion 11y ago
I disagree with your definition of power. Power lies in having influence; influence is gained by having something the other person wants, or by having the ability to take away something the other person has. This scales up and down based on the stakes.
You make some good points in this post, but overall it encourages a passive, reactive mindset. It's good advice for taking things in stride, but very poor advice for shaping one's environment according to one's desires.
RealRational 11y ago
Power: The ability to inflict your will on the universe.
OP's description isn't necessarily wrong, it's just not fully accurate. I think he conveys the point however. For his current level of understanding it's a fine post, and for all the people still at, or below OP's currently level of understanding this will be useful.
no_face 11y ago
Your definition of power is close enough to mine except you are missing a crucial detail. If exercising the "influence" affects you as much as them, you don't really have power, it's just an even trade
Also, changing your life, cutting off old relationships and living situations, forming new ones is not passive in any way. It enables you to transition from a weak frame of interaction to a strong one
Belerion 11y ago
Not exactly. If I can take your life, I have power (influence) over your actions, even if it somehow means I lose my own life. So the threat of a murder + suicide hold the same threat over someone as murder on it's own. This is an example in the extreme, but it illustrates the point.
Also, while what you describe does require action, it is only action in reaction to the environment. As another example, only pursuing women that display interest in you is limiting, because the decision of whom to pursue is made for you. Your autonomy is now restricted and you have ceased attempting to create your own reality, effectively favoring an external locus of control over an internal one. This would be a contradiction to the concept of frame, wherein your reality exists within your own personal frame, and is unaffected by external pressures.
unassumingusername7 11y ago
Anybody can take almost anyone's life if they're willing to lose their own. It's a very low amount of power to be able to trade evenly with others.
RealRational 11y ago
You are assuming a position of constant superior power. You are a human being, this is not realistic, nor even possible.
What Belerion is trying to show you is that "power", when utilized by someone truly "powerful", can be made effective even when you have less of it than your opponent.
If you "mostly end up with girls who approach you" then you are ceding that choice to the universe, that choice is power. Anytime you concede a choice to someone else, or "fate" at large, you are limiting your own power. For your example, there are simply girls who will never approach you, or anyone for that matter. Their reasons are irrelevant. Even if you approach 25% of the time, that means 75% of the time you are probably missing out on the best option, and settling for "good enough".
You are allowing your ego to cloud your judgement OP. You are not the most powerful in every situation. It's not even possible for you to become so, you are human, extremely limited in many ways.
"Adapt" should be your mindset. Not "overpower". Because if you can't adapt to achieve maximum benefit in every situation, then you aren't truly powerful. Sometimes adapting to the situation, means accepting that you are in a weak position and figuring out how to come out on top anyway.
Like I said in another comment, your current mindset isn't a "failure". It's a necessary step on the road to improvement. Unfortunately this step is one of many that has you confused about where you actually stand in the hierarchy. This post will be helpful for people below you in the hierarchy so I'm glad you made the post. But for you, individually, if you'd like to keep moving up, heed the words of the commenters here.
You come off young to me, rides around the sun are irrelevant to how I mean that. This seems like an excellent post for teenagers, which I'd guess you are, or are near. Like I said, useful for those stages of development.
Thought: Wish TRP had a way to tag posts to mark them as specific stages of development. However that would require a complete picture of the full process, which I don't think exists currently.
no_face 11y ago
Did you read the note about not going overboard? Most interactions are neutral as I said. In any prolonged interaction, the person who needs it the most has the least power. You change your life to improve the number of relationships where you are needed more than you need them. You distribute the power others have over you -- like having multiple plates so that any one does not hold concentrated power.
Says the guy with hastiness to judge and a pedantic focus on one or two sentences missing the overall message
Belerion 11y ago
You are getting some things right in this post, but misunderstanding the meat of it.
Nuances of the definition of power aside (Have you read 48 Laws? It doesn't seem so..), your post is a "Guide to Frame." Holding Frame means abiding in your own reality, not giving in to someone else's. In order to maintain your own frame, you need to control and affect your environment. Telling people to be reactive instead of proactive means that their frame is dependent upon others, not self-sustaining, and therefore not a very good guide. Sorry boo.
Also, to be fair, this response displays more butthurt than IDGAF, so....
RealRational 11y ago
No, I didn't miss the overall message, I simply ignored the parts that are wrong.
Ignore me and learn nothing or figure out what I'm actually trying to convey and grow as a person, as a man. The choice is yours.
armenia4ever 11y ago
Hate to nitpick, but , "I only take a job where I am needed more than I need the job" is not indicative of the actual reality of the job market, especially if you are a millennial. (Self-disclosure, I am one.)
SeekingTheWay 11y ago
not true, and I am a millennial.
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ghaenrynquau 11y ago
Wouldn't that end up in no development? Shouldn't you look for friends of high social status? I will end up hanging with losers only with that mindset, fucking warpigs and doing a low-income job.
no_face 11y ago
Not at all. Strength respects strength. The finest people have no respect for weak sycophants.
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TekkomanKingz 11y ago
Good guide. I think it explains it accurately for most newbies in the simplest way. However, as they get experienced application will be a little more sophisticated. But you start from the 3 basic tenets for a Man which is his career which matters first, his social life 2nd and then the Women that come along with that 3rd. All in the correct order of priority. Always keep Women 3rd if you are single and 2nd if you are in an LTR of any kind.
TW_RPAwake 11y ago
Up-voted and appreciated. The advice is sound, and placed in the context of "Achievements" makes it an ideal read for my 14YO.
Hennez 11y ago
Excellent post. Very easy to understand and progresses logically. It sums up most of the things frame is about in a great way.
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Lift and make lots of money. Everything will then fall into place!
[deleted] 11y ago
Excellent. Tagging to read later.