Men - The Forgotten Gender | Deepika Bhardwaj | TEDxIIFTDelhi [/r/India] | TheRedPill

Indian female journalist talks about how men are being oppressed in India since most of the laws are on the woman's side. Yea, the problem isn't prevalent only in the West.

Interesting story from the video:

Man, after 6 years of marriage, decides to test the paternity of his 2 year old son. The next day he's slapped with a dowry accusation case. The results eventually showed that he's not the father of his son.

Many more such cases mentioned in the video.

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leftajar 11y ago

In every society in which women have been given the vote, they have abused sex privilege in order to create favorable legal status.

Back in the day, male intellectuals warned against this -- they saw it coming.

GuitarHero07 11y ago

As I have said before, all this bad press India has been getting about rape is just a way for feminists to drive through a lot of anti-male laws. India actually has a lower rate of rape than the United States. It's the same playbook that feminists have used in the here: trump up crimes against women (while ignoring equally horrendous crimes against men) then use society's natural sympathy for women to pass anti-male legislation.

redzorp 11y ago

Exactly. It was a pure western propaganda effort to demonize Indian society and really push the feminist agenda from the outside. It was highly effective and continues to work its evil viral magic.

The bottom line, for a nation of 1.2 billion rape is fairly rare. On a per capita basis it's lower than the US and most European countries. Yet every single rape that happens in India gets blasted all over the international media, causing a false perception both outside and inside the country - fanning the flames of feminism.

The last thing that Indian society condones is rape. When that brutal gang rape occurred on that bus, the entire nation marched in the streets and the rapists were eventually hung. Contrast that to the recent gang rape of Cytherea the porn star in the US - not a peep from the media, the public OR FROM FEMINISTS. It's like it never even happened. Out of sight, out of mind.

cooledcannon 11y ago

Thats surprising. I suppose the media brainwashing had been effective.

I just assumed with the massive amount of indian race trolling(read:RVF) that indians clearly raped more...

bangbangahah 11y ago

Eh...India is far more corrupt then the USA when it comes to rape and in general.

deville05 11y ago

The recent news on rape wasnt overly public because it was rape or a woman etc. Rapes have been happening for a long time n they will continue to happen. But what started it all was the nature of what happen (raped in a moving public bus in the big city with cops patroling the roads, mutilating the girl by shoving metal rods inside her which ultimately killed her after a few days, reaction of cops, lawyers and the subsequent action of the govt etc). For all the trp or whatever.. That shit is unacceptable. There is atleast 1 rape news in a paper on a daily basis. Most dont take the social media like that one.

GuitarHero07 11y ago

I agree that it was a particularly brutal rape but the people of India were outraged by it and the perpetrators have all been severely punished. But now the media is using this one incident to clam that India has a severe rape problem when that is not the case. Yes, the police failed to protect the woman, but the police in India are underfunded, understaffed and ill-equipped.

Rape is a problem that should be combated everywhere (including the US). But India faces far worse problems that it should focus on addressing: poverty, awful infrastructure, lack of education, lack of access to healthcare, government corruption and a Byzantine beureacracy that inhibits business.

India cannot afford the menace of feminism. The U.S., Canada and Britain can for now because they are wealthy countries. Even in Western countries feminism/Marxism are having adverse consequences on their prosperity (ballooning entitlements, underperformance of young men, destruction of traditional families etc.).

deville05 11y ago

I dont agree that raping is any less than corruption or poverty. Sorry. India does need feminism too... Well lets not put labels like that but atleast in the rural areas, we need education and women need to be empowered. Taking things to priviledge white women level is abuse. We gotta keep that shit in check though.

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GuruDev1000 11y ago

Men faught for the rights of women in India way before the shit called feminism came. So no, we don't need femininism!

redzorp 11y ago

India does need feminism too...

NO COUNTRY NEEDS FEMINISM!

Why are you even posting on this sub if you don't understand what TRP is about?

deville05 11y ago

You should have read after that line. Not the feminism feminism has become... But more the feminism of yester years where real issues were fought.

GuitarHero07 11y ago

Feminism has accomplished nothing. The "liberation" of women occurred through technological, economic and social changes of the 20th centuries in prosperous Western countries. It's telling that the feminist movement is strongest in the most prosperous countries were women are the most privileged (USA, Sweden, UK, Germany etc.).

Women were liberated from full time housework thanks to things like fridges, supermarkets, washing machines, vacuum cleaners etc. Before that, running a home and taking care of children was a full time job.

Women have joined the workforce because new jobs were created. Until quite recently, most jobs involved hard physical labor and often quite dangerous working conditions. You didn't get to go sit at a desk in an air conditioned office.

Women gained the right to vote without the obligation to fight for the country. Even today, young men have to sign up for the draft in order to be allowed to vote. This is the fact that feminists conveniently ignore.

Finally, the current conditions that allow women to be "strong and independent" were brought about by an excellent state of law and order. Women can go out alone, get shitfaced and fuck random dudes because there are men with guns (and tanks, and stealth fighter jets) who enforce the law. For most of human history, we didn't have a good system of law and order. In fact in many countries today (e.g Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc.) this is still the case.

WallBender 11y ago

Everyone needs to watch this... I'm not even half-way through but here's this gem where the [pro-TRP] female speaker acknowledges the truth about the [feminized, anti-men Western] world we live in:

"... I'll have to give a lot of evidence ... because I'm talking about men. When we talk about women we don't really need to give evidence."

Here's another gem: "... you can be accused of domestic violence if you shout at your wife, but if she shouts at you there is nothing you can do."

Just finished... thanks for posting this. I really hope more people watch this. This is full of important pieces of information.

Can we nominate this for side bar material? This woman so profoundly explains the dangerous path this world is going down with regards to an unfairly female-biased judicial system.

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WallBender 11y ago

No I think she was pointing out what society thinks. Remember, she is legitimately defending men. Her point was that she has to provide lots MORE evidence, purely because she's talking about men. She's just pointing out how fucked up the double standard is. She's not trying to enforce it.

ankit0912 11y ago

The thing is that today an Indian woman is conscious of two things- sex and the need to hide it. If you're in India and walking down a street you can't tell whether a woman walking down the street has just been fucked.

Indian women are backseat drivers. They never speak upfront but rather control men from behind by giving/denying sex. I speak from a personal experience. One of these days I'm going to do a post on how TRP is even more valid in India than any other western nation.

iamaguythrowaway 11y ago

I would like you to post about the validity of TRP in India.

let_terror_reign 11y ago

I would love to see this. I would even like to contribute. PM me if you think we can.

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6030747 11y ago

If you're in India and walking down a street you can't tell whether a woman walking down the street has just been fucked.

Can you tell this in other countries?

ankit0912 11y ago

I meant it in a figurative way. Indian women like to hide they're having sex.Most other countries don't

GuruDev1000 11y ago

Indian women like to hide they're having sex

LOL. TRP is full of Western women hiding their past conquests. What are you talking about?

alfred_e_nooman 11y ago

You're forgetting AWALT. Doesn't matter which country she's from or what ethnicity she is. If she wants to lock down an unsuspecting beta provider, I'd bet my left testicle that she'd hide her sexual history, at least until she acquires his resources.

ankit0912 11y ago

Yeah exactly. Though in India now it has assumed the guise of arranged marriage. I read a post by an Indian american on two x chromosomes which was a perfect example of AWALT

easyrandomguy 11y ago

HOW CAN SHE SLAP?!?!

when_in_rome_wwjd 11y ago

That moment where he rocks her back is always so satisfying.

shambhomahadev 11y ago

The existence of the problem has been validated, yes.

But what people don't understand is that a major reason for this problem has been the lack of a strong masculine identity to the India male. That is a fundamental problem that needs to be tackled. Hearing them out and going the MRA way is not going to help men out. They need to be taught to be men. They need to understand what their role in the society really is - about holding frame, about focusing on themselves rather than slaving away for their families, about being strong. The Indian traditions which made marriage easy for Indian men are falling apart. And, in this period, the men have let themselves slacken. It is time they took charge and got things under control.

GuruDev1000 11y ago

True. But the logistics is the same as Western men, almost. Many betas are unwilling to face the truth, some newbies like me are mostly using the internet to gain knowledge and work on themselves.

And there are naturals among us, just like any other civilisation on earth. One of my closest friends is a natural. He doesn't share his thoughts about women with most people becaue he knows they won't listen, but when he talks to me, I realise that he realises that it will be very difficult for him to trust any woman to be faithful to him since 80% of the women he has fucked have been wives or girlfriends to other men.

BTW, Sa(i)nt Kabir, one of the most reverred saints of India, is considered a misogynist by his critics. Indian mythology is full of male role models. In USA, I can't think of any good role models for men in modern times apart from JFK, and Jeff Bridges.

iamaguythrowaway 11y ago

Where does your natural friend reside in? India?

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rporion 11y ago

I am afraid that whoever is behind Manhood Academy is a raging idiot.

Yeah, he wants to challenge Karen Straughan to a debate, its not like she would gut him in 30 seconds or less.

That is sad, his content is actually quite good.

HAMMURABl 11y ago

Yup its whats funny.

India and brazil are on the pure legal side maybe even more biased against men than western countries ( except sweden)

Throway99038 11y ago

That Dowry law is really fucked up. I really hope that law is scrapped soon or modified enough to prosecute people filing false cases. Even the Supreme Court of India wants it modified and stated their displeasure with that law. Good thing is unlike American divorce laws where he would be stuck with child support till the child was all 18. He won't be paying any after the result of the paternity test.

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WallBender 11y ago

I suppose it could. Even before it bursts though, the speaker points out the problems in women taking advantage of this law. It's the same problem we have in the US as of late with all these high-profile rape accusations that end up being false.

These false accusations (of rape, or adultery, or dowry abuse) make it much harder for women who are actually victims of these crimes to be taken seriously.

It's fucked up... but women are doing it to themselves. They'll complain that men are oppressing them, but then cry wolf so many goddamn times that no one takes them seriously.

What do you think will happen if and when it bursts?

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WallBender 11y ago

Interesting thoughts. I've certainly been thinking about the family aspect of things the more I read TRP. Trust between the sexes here in the US is already shit. Society doesn't trust men with women or children.

But I wonder if we're beginning to see a turning point. At least in the last few months there have been several high-profile cases of rape that turned out to be false. And the false accusation itself got just as much media coverage as the initial accusation.

CapnDancyPants 11y ago

Just because I am a woman does it give me the power to ruin a family and a man?

Yes. Yes it does. He is not a real man, cannot be a father and does not deserve to be a husband, if he can't be the one always giving his wife tingles to the exclusion of all other men. Beta must perish.

Edit: Weak and inadequate males must perish from the gene pool, but extract all the labor you can from them first!

At least, this is how I understand the motives of feminism. And frankly commoner men have always been dispensable, so why not try to breed Superman or the Son of Man or Homo Rex by making conditions extremely adverse for them over a few generations?

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Luke666808g 11y ago

Would it be true to say that the vast majority of the crimes against women in India, for which these misandric laws are supposed to protect against, are committed by non-Hindus?

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GuruDev1000 11y ago

Nope. It would be wrong to say it. Religion plays no role.

trpdownunder 11y ago

LOL. What's that meant to mean? India has a hindu majority and from my experience with indian girls their culture treats women as completely inferior beings. Logic would dictate that those two facts combine to produce the domestic abuse etc that are being used as false flags to push these bullshit laws through.