TL;dr: Asian women exclusively prefer the company of white men over 4x more than the reverse (34% to 7%). The data empirically shows that White Fever is far more prevalent than Yellow Fever, despite what the feminist-influenced media says.
-- The new trend in dating sites is to publish data about behavioral patterns by various breakdown including race. Here we see the actuality of patterns we observe in everyday life but confirmed with cold, hard data.
So we turn to the dynamic of the "Yellow Fever" amongst white males. Scarcely a day goes by without the media going on about how white men are obsessed with Asian women. There's only one problem. The data doesn't quite bear it out. When I saw the data, I was unsurprised. Most white men I know don't exclusively pursue Asian women. In contrast, many Asian women I know are explicit about wanting a white BF. So when I came across data from the dating site Coffee Meets Bagel, it finally was the quantitative confirmation of what I suspected all along -- which was women were exaggerating the nature of "Yellow Fever", blowing it way out of proportion based on a few anecdotes they observed. Similarly, women have tried to cover up the "white fever" of asian women.
The reason I'm even posting this (and I will post the data) is the lie of Yellow Fever highlights the nature of the women to stigmatize men. In this case, it meant exaggerating the reality, and then stigmatizing male preferences as some kind of creepy fetish. They try to carry the day by way of Repetition not Reason. Then, they attack: claiming male preferences are fetishizing "exotic beauty" and this is a kind of racial micro-aggression. And diagnosing white men as "creepy white guys" - as is typical they attempt to extrapolate from a few examples rather than using data.
Facts are a man's friend. They cut through the female "big lie". Now of course once the data becomes ubiquitous, women will then use their next favorite technique after misrepresentation, and that is the famous feminist Double Standard. Men can't have preferences - those are superficial and smack of 'fetish'. But women? Women can choose whatever man they want! It's "empowerment". I won't hold my breath waiting for USA Today to talk about creepy Asian women who exclusively pursue white men.
The Data
Coffee Meets Bagel is a dating app. It introduces its members to one new potential match per day. It collected data on its application based on the preferences of its users. The writeup they did was based on answering the question as to whether Jewish men have a fetish for Asian women; but along the way they found data on preferences of white men more broadly. One important piece of background. People historically have always expressed preference for their own race. That they highly value another race is notable, even though overall they will likely still favor their own race overall.
The preference that Asian women have for white men is more than 3x higher than any other-race preference a man has for a woman. The degree of White Fever (asian women interested in white males) is over 4x higher than whatever might be called white male Yellow Fever for asian women -- 34% compared to 7%. Asian women exclusively prefer the company of white men far more than the reverse.
The two key tables show, of the people who said they were only interested in dating one ethnicity, their ethnicity (on the left column, listed up to down) and their preferred ethnicities (listed at top, left to right). I combined the charts into one graphic here.
The verdict from CMB: "Judging by what CMB members told us about their Bagel preferences, Jewish men liking Asian women seems to be an unfounded myth. Put that one up there with having an orgasm if you sneeze seven times. However, it does look like there’s a bit of a trend in the reverse: Asian women are fiends for White men, including Jewish men."
At the end of the day, people can have whatever preferences they want. Thought I'd call it out though because the blue pill world only tells one side of the story, and vilify men as creepy, sketchy types with an abnormal racial fetish that boils down to sexual and superficial objectification. The media and women attack Yellow Fever but conveniently ignore the more common White Fever.

_underlines_ 11y ago
Assuming:
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jagrmeister721 11y ago
You misunderstand the metric they used to gauge interest; re-read the post.
_underlines_ 11y ago
I followed your suggestion and re-read the whole article and studied the imgsrc image you linked.
The only metric used is: Preference of ethnicity on a members profile
The cohorts used are: (Asian;S.Asian;White Jewish;White Non-Jewish) M + F
The sample is still wrong, since it's a western dating site with a more random sample of western men, but not a random sample of asian women. The group of the asian women on a western dating site is biased, since they already prefer living in a western society and country and therefore there's a more significant bias to also like white men/westerners.
If you want to make predictions like "X % of Asian women prefer white men" then you are talking about the whole population. Therefore the sample should be a randomly picked Asian population, not female Asian members on a western dating site.
Get it?
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jagrmeister721 11y ago
?? No one is claiming that a tendency amongst a group of people insinuates that ALL members of that group act in the same way or in a predictable way. It indicates what it indicates- that a preference is more common among certain people than others.
fap_the_pain_away 11y ago
Empty yellow fever accusation is powerspeak.
I've dated a couple of extremely pretty, young, thin black women (I'm white). I always notice the angry glares white women give me when I'm out around town. Same thing when I'm with Hispanic chicks: white women are extremely jealous. Which is funny, because the ugly faces those jealous white girls make reminds me of why I go for other races in the first place.
The whole fake yellow fever epidemic is just white women trying to shame white men into putting up with their bullshit. They know that Asian women from traditional families are superior in behavior and temperament, plain and simple.
It's no different than old women calling a guy a "creep" for preferring an 18 year old chick -- regardless of his own age. Women want to eliminate superior competition.
It's remarkable who full of shit they are. Basically, gentlemen, if a woman ever speaks, she is probably lying. Do the opposite. But you already knew that.
Soaring_Seagull 11y ago
This has always bothered me about asian women. I'm black, and I'll date a white woman. At the same time, if I meet a black girl who is attractive and a white girl who is equally as attractive, then it's a toss up from there. Asian women look at white men and see a status that they can inherit.
[deleted] 11y ago
First off all, I think the race thing is a bit over blown. I'm speaking as an Asian guy myself. CHICKS (Asian or whatever) will go with the highest perceived SMV male they can get.
There are chicks that exclusively date Asian guys, it just depends on their stereotype of power (AWALT) and their conditioning. A lower SMV white-male can get a higher-SMV female because she sees him as higher than her in SMV.
But they; like every other chick get uncomfortable around low-SMV males; white or not. That's the basis of yellow fever; these awkward low value white guys who pedestal the Asian pussy and have no game insult women by expressing their desire. Thus shaming of Yellow fever.
If Brad-fucking-Pitt decides to exclusively go after and bang Asian chicks, they would be lining up around the block to worship him.
fhghg 11y ago
It's 2015. There are guys who brag about sucking cock and getting fucked in the ass. There is a character defined by his homosexuality in every TV show. They're out of the closet but I'm supposed to feel shame for having the hots for Asian women? No. If they're out of the closet then I am too. I love asian girls. I have yellow fever and I'm proud if it. Hear me roar. Rawwrwwwr.
redpillerinnyc 11y ago
I don't disagree with you necessarily, but there is a flaw in your theory- preselection. It's not surprising at all to hear that Asian women on a dating website is more likely to want to date white men exclusively. But as anyone knowledgeable in Asian communities would know, those girls are not representative of Asian girls in general. Most Asian girls date within their community- their friends, friends' friends, at church, etc. I would not say the data is conclusive. PS I'm a white male.
jagrmeister721 11y ago
If you look at the data, ALL races/genders prefer their own race when narrowing their preference to a single ethnicity. There is no exception. I addressed this in the original post; pointing out that even though the primary preference is towards one's own race, a significant preference for another race is still notable.
through_a_ways 11y ago
Only takes a cursory glance to break the feminist myth of yellow fever. What's funny is that in their collective bluff to shame white men, they've actually made themselves look far more shameful.
Which reminds me, there was even a redditlog thread on here about some Indian girl complaining about her brother dating a white girl and ruining her friend's relationship. In the comments, a comment-thread developed on the topic of how Asian/Indian men have it uniquely worse in the dating game.
For some reason I visited the actual thread, and noticed that every single comment in that comment thread had been deleted by the mods. They take the racial doublethink seriously, to the point of censorship, it seems.
Anyway, they dug their own grave at the end of the day.
edit: Found the thread in question
Here's the deleted comment thread on TBP
Here's the redditlog of that thread, before the comments were deleted.
iamaguythrowaway 11y ago
Redditlog is not working. I want to see the comment thread.
through_a_ways 11y ago
Just wait till it goes back up, I guess.
It was basically liberal doublethink mind-explosion type of stuff, with lots of hamstering.
It's hilarious how different "oppressed" groups actually do more to oppress each other than any of the so-called oppressors.
Master_AK 11y ago
Indian girls are very sneaky, 9/10 of them will still get married to wealthy/beta Indian men when they approach 30, but they hide their sexual pasts like fucking ninjas and will never tell them anything.
redarkane 11y ago
Yep. I'm a brown guy and dated 3 Indian girls that fortunately didn't workout. They sleep around like crazy and eventually get married to a beta with 6 figure salary.
[deleted] 11y ago
Wow. He told his cousin's fiance that his girl was a slut that only dated white dudes. It's the truth and it fucking hurts but he does it anyway regardless of family backlash.
That would make her want him more... Preselection/increasing her SMV
redpillerinnyc 11y ago
IMO it was a stupid thing for him to do. Passion of a newly converted. Sure we all want to help out another good dude and "punish" the slut for her CC riding, but not at my family's expense. His family should come before some random dude, especially if his own parents benefited from the slut's family. Brotherhood is bullshit. I don't owe a man a favor just because he has a dick too. Whereas family, they are and will always be yours.
xxTin 11y ago
Most white men date Asian women simply because they're easier. How else could you explain that most of these white men are very nerdy and dorky? Aka, your typical beta bucks?
And it's also no coincidence that on average, Asian Women with White Men are less attractive than your average Asian women.
Look at Zuck's wife or that Linkedin founder's wife.
fhghg 11y ago
someguysomewhere321 11y ago
Reminds me of a white female coworker whose boyfriend went to asia for greener pastures and she was harping on about how she hated Asian girls. Women mostly think if you can't get em, then find a way to shame them, so the man's SMV lowers and hers increases (in her mind).
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I live in Japan. A woman (white) who is also "one of the guys" recently told me I had an Asian fetish. I corrected her that I had a fetish for decent women. I'm still hearing about this comment over two weeks later. How us men just have an Asian fetish, and we're pigs and assholes for toying with these poor creatures.
Yet what she completely ignores all the glaring signs that these women make it easy on foreigners for a reason. We act differently, we're an unknown, we give them the tingles just by having a little game. We're more socially attractive than a young but average Japanese guy who's hobbies are working and drinking.
She has these same advantages with Japanese men. She's different, her hobbies don't consist of shopping and listening to pop music. Even though she's a 4 outside of Asia, she gets a free upgrade with the men around here. BUT SHE WON'T TOUCH THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOW SMV. She wants my friend who's popular, in shape, and foreign to her (he's half Latino/Pakistani). She hates the fact that she can't compete, but she's a feminist so she can't call the girls sluts. So the hamster scurries trying to create and shame a male fetish at the same time.
LewisSkolnick 11y ago
This is legit ... I feel sorry for North American asian men... it's pretty unfair but then again so is life in general.
I will also ad that asian women are intentionally undervalued by white men. For instance, there are tons of white guys out there who are into slim brunettes who have great attitudes - and if you live in a major city chances are asian women will load up that category - but a lot of these white guys just won't proactively engage with the "hot asian" because their mothers were white and so on and so forth. It isn't really racism, it's just them battling with the idea of shaking up the family tree on an unprecedented scale.
Of all my friends' relationships - the one that has gone the best and I admire the most is between a cute asian girl and a buddy of mine (who isn't a beta) who just said "fuck it" and LTRed her almost a decade ago. They are by far and away the most well adjusted and the most fun to hang out with.
antariusz 11y ago
Projection by asian women.
They want white man, and see all their friends with white men, so they assume that it's the white men that want asian women.
fhghg 11y ago
Have you guys ever considered that the reason there are more Asians than any other race is because they love to fuck more than any other race? It's not just you they want to fuck, white boy. They want to fuck everything.
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Asian women smell weird and don't wash their pussies. I prefer whites 1000x over.
I_like_big_titays 11y ago
very insightful. glad you shared that.
feelinglazy 11y ago
May I ask how did you come to that conclusion.
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Their hygiene is just lacking. I had a friend in High School who toldme her dad didn't let her shower as much as she'd like because he wanted her to build an immune system. She'd shower like once a week. In actuality I believe that he told her that BS to keep guys from sleeping with her (it worked). She always gave off this musty smell. Maybe she ruined them all for me but a lot of them give off that same musty smell. They may share the same asian pussy-juice- gene or something.
Girls, mustiness is an instant turn off.
SnoopKittyCat 11y ago
It reminds me this asian girl I was dating on Match and who was telling me that "White men who have yellow fever and are mostly attracted by asian women are creepy and perverts".... herself was dating exclusively white men and her female friend exclusively latinos.
jagrmeister721 11y ago
This is what I'm talking about. Either the asian women who solely date white men are creepy perverts who need counseling for their race fetish too, or, white men can date whoever they want without getting flak for it.
Acx3 11y ago
White guy dating only asian women=perception of low SMV. A Man who who engages in commerce exclusively outside his local market, when there are a multitude of High-paying consumers conveniently near by, implicitly suggests that his product is of inferior quality. The elite male is in high demand and has access to the cream of the crop at his convenience and as such would not uneconomically look elsewhere. Thus exclusively dating Asian women suggests that you don't have options, you aren't in high demand, and are in fact that oh-so detestable beta male... convoluting the hypgamous hunt!
SnoopKittyCat 11y ago
That's a way to analyze the problem i could agree with if it wasn't ignoring a few parameters. One is ignoring personal taste, that American women look old at 40, unlike many Asian women. Also I consider Korean or Japanese women the cream of the crop and are as difficult to get than the high end white ladies. Now if we talk about filipina or Thai ok many are more ready to date very low end males so that project a very bad image of the white guys who date them. It's like guys dating eastern European women, your analysis would be totally true too but... gosh, those women are incredibly beautiful and it can be very difficult to find such skinny hotties in the US even for the most alpha guy.
Acx3 11y ago
This is just how people view the yellow fever issue. I actually think hot Korean girls are better looking than hot white girls but from personal experience most people will not constructively accept this. It is better to just act like everyone else and think otherwise.
SnoopKittyCat 11y ago
Hot Korean girls are, for me, the absolute top of the top, only hot Hungarian girls can compare, eastern women can be dangerously hot. Anyway, I digress... :-) This globalization make the entitled feminist ugly fatties kind of not very attractive and challenge the average guys like me to make some serious efforts to look and act better, the competition is also for men, even if it's less visible.
NigTrannyMarxFemJew 11y ago
I hate hearing about these racial posts. I'm white and I like Asian girls, but I have respect for my Asian brothers. Quit downplaying Asian men
fhghg 11y ago
They're more like cousins than your white brothers, technically.
Cmon_Just_The_Tip 11y ago
Ha! It's so obvious I never even thought about it.
But subconsciously I know that if I go for an Asian chick I have a huge chance of scoring.
DescendantofHuangdi 11y ago
As an asian guy this doesn't affect me. This is only prevalent in the anglosphere/west due to horrible representations of asian men in the media (which is an advantage to me, as I love shattering stereotypes). If you know how to present yourself and have the correct attitude like me, you can kill the game easily and get a lot of ass of any color.
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Billetbill 11y ago
I have never thought about it this way. For a while I heard the cliche "he has yellow fever" bit, only now have I given it enough thought that I fluently realize that women are the gatekeepers. Men are not so much choosing these Asian women, as Asian women are letting these men have relations with them. Remember, it's a one way street.
SQQQ 11y ago
well the reasons seem obvious.
so guess which direction cupcake is going?
[deleted] 11y ago
Yeah being Asian you have to be more masculine that usual. It's a blessing and a curse. A blessing you have to be more masculine by default and have value but a curse that you have to work harder. Sometimes for less which is not fun. Not a fan of the media trying to indoctrinate me to be a beta. It's not working. What's up with the emasculation? I don't like how a lot of people are simps in the western world. I think it's annoying, but I didn't choice my race. Though Asian guys problems don't register with liberals and sjw's. A lot of Asian women give Asian guys all these standards to live up to. I don't like to play mind games. I can get girls of different races white, black, Latina etc.
jesus_is_a_black_man 11y ago
Doesn't the media indoctrinate all men to be beta, not just Asians?
[deleted] 11y ago
Yeah us Asians have weird guys like Bobby Lee and the Asian guy from Hangover as our male representation which is messed.
kenrekat 11y ago
I wonder if this is the same source that published that no one was really looking to get involved with black women. I spend a lot of time telling my SO how being a sassy black woman is only cute to her. But slightly more on topic, I don't know any Asians that want a black man. I have lots of friends that want to date Asian women. They all think they will be more docile. Lol, I do believe my community has the craziest woman award won and I wonder is that why black men think Asian women are nicer. That's a ramble for a different time. Its nice to see agreeable data though.
[deleted] 11y ago
Nah trust me, us Asian guys have to live up to qualities and watch out for the Asian sloots who have rode the cock carousel and look to catch a beta provider. They're crazy as shit.
DreadLockedHaitian 11y ago
But slightly more on topic, I don't know any Asians that want a black man.
Oh, they're there. I personally have been with way more Asians (Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese) than any other race. If we're counting Middle Eastern as Asian than it's even more lopsided.
Also, at the current moment; everyone male around my age in my extended family is married to or dating an Asian (if they're in a relationship). Go figure.
jacks1000 11y ago
Most people are attracted to people of the same race, this is hardly some big surprise.
However, when people are looking to mate outside of their race - white people are the most desirable, men and women.
Yet white women are the most "racist" of all women, and white men are the second most "racist" group. White people generally don't date outside their race.
Yet, all other racial groups want to mate with white women and men.
There is no "equality."
gokurakumaru 11y ago
This says a lot about Asian women on dating apps and very little about Asian populations in general.
redpillerinnyc 11y ago
Exactly what I wrote in my post. Surprised no one else picked up on this!
jagrmeister721 11y ago
Can you explain why/how the sample of Asian women on a dating app would differ? And why those differences would lend themselves to a preference for white men? It turns out dating sites are just about the only way for people to evaluate politically incorrect preferences. In general, this data is hard to come by, through random sample, because people are rarely candid about their race-preferences except when they have to do so, and assume they are doing it privately on a dating site. Occasionally, you'll have someone who says out loud "I ONLY date (x) race" but most people work hard to keep up appearances and know they'll get shit for making it overt, so they don't. Data typed into a dating site is often the closest we'll get to people admitting politically incorrect preferences.
feelinglazy 11y ago
Maybe because more traditional Asian girls tend to date within their communities, and those who are on those types of apps are more hypergamous. I don't think it makes that much of a different though.
gokurakumaru 11y ago
This would have been my response. Asian girls with access to quality Asian men aren't out looking exclusively for other races in my experience. The larger the community the lower the need.
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This girl I'm seeing currently is Hmong. She told me straight up that she doesn't like Asian men because they have small penises (stereotype) and are timid, even compared to the most timid white male.
I told her I'm not into white women because they're mostly entitled and just down right boring.
fhghg 11y ago
Funny. The stereotype is wrong. I asked my Vietnamese babe if Asian men hav small cocks. She said "No. Asians have regular sized cocks." Then I asked, "So why do you like white men?" She answered, "Because white men have huge cocks."
czabak 11y ago
OK Cupid confirms this: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/
Although asian women are most desirable among men of all races. White (+ latino) men are most desirable for women across races. (http://cdn.okccdn.com/blog/raceattr/scoresDateHookup.png?v=1)
EDIT: obviously with the exception of people's own race
[deleted] 11y ago
That's what you call low self esteem. I know how to weed out colour struck wenches out of my dating pool. Check their history, if I'm their first non-white guy. I'm out.
Yokep 11y ago
I saw CMB on Shark Tank. Three ivy league South Korean family members started it and were very shrewd negotiators who didn't make a deal. The app seemed very empowering for women.
Throughout the post, I felt you were being somewhat of a shill. Having said that, I can't argue the numbers. I am a white male who is fluent in Japanese (and Russian) and it truly is easier to pick up Asian women. I agree with your overall assessment.
I often struggle with white women but with ethnic women I do pretty well. I hooked up recently with a girl on OKC with Indian heritage and it was much easier than my date a week ago with a white girl who just threw shit test after shit test.
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Feels good to be white, as Louis C.K said.
Trpdoc 11y ago
White women are so far gone now it's absurd. Asian girls are hypergamous as shit but they are not outwardly antagonistic like the white girls who are all on Prozac bc theyre saaaad
Cyralea Vanguard 11y ago
Asian culture has the element of external appearances working for them. There are a lot of behaviours that are common in ball-busting white women that aren't publicly acceptable in Asian culture. That and the strong taboo against divorce.
Like you say though, they're just as hypergamous if not moreso than white women. Unless you're chasing women who are less than HB5's, you're going to deal with just as much shit-testing at home.
feelinglazy 11y ago
Asian have a "face saving" culture. You don't do shit that embarrass you or your family in public. In private though, that's a different story.
hamsterbator 11y ago
Asian girls are also not fat whales however I'm noticing they are sadly getting bigger and bigger. But there is more social pressure to be thin.
fhghg 11y ago
Social pressure = tiger mom telling you you're a fat loser with no friends.
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through_a_ways 11y ago
Even more interesting: correct for long term mate preference (marriage) instead of short term (online fucking/dating).
A lot of white guys will date/fuck Asian women, because why not?
In the same vein, a lot of women will marry a man they're not attracted to, because why not?
The guy gets a free fuck (the evolutionary cue of spreading your genes)
The woman gets a free beta provider, and in recent decades, gets a free ticket to hellimony.
Interactions don't take place if there isn't something to gain for both sides.
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Also, liberal college aged women are fascinated by black guys once they move to a new city
planetross2 11y ago
Just have to question this statement but from back in my college days, the only black guys that got action from decent white women were college athletes. At times, I felt that even other minority groups (latinos, asians, etc.) got higher quality than black men for both ONS and relationships because the white frats would readily accept them and this would mean more social proof and high status in the eyes of a lot of the better looking white girls (who were in sororities). I saw a lot more latinos, asians, and even brown guys with hotter white girls on dates and making out than I did black guys. Saying this as a white man.
The only black guys who were getting the better looking white girls were on the football team and even then, I saw cases where even star athletes were shunned by certain girls because they were black.
That said, black men have it easy in areas where blacks are a small minority. Places like California and states with low black populations make it easy for most black guys to pull better looking white girls.
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I'm talking about DC which is full of liberal college girls from the midwest who just moved here.
I go out with my friend who's half black and he hears at least once a night a cold approach of "I've never been with a black guy before..." from a 20 something white girl
[deleted] 11y ago
so? if you were driving a Prius your whole life what's wrong with upgrading to a black chevy yukon? lol its 2015 people!!
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WoahScienceCool 11y ago
On what cob-webbed corner of the internet did you hear this from? Ive lived all over the US, in many major cities- Chicago, LA, Miami, multiple parts of Texas, with friends/family all over the northeast coast and midwest- and never see this trend of WW/BM pairings thats so hyped up on the internet and the media. Where are all these couples? I dont see them, just being real.
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I don't see them that often. What I see is AW/WM
henryofenfield 11y ago
All those couples are in London.
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KyfhoMyoba 11y ago
You got to go to the lower socioeconomic strata. There you will find lots of low SMV white women with black males. Especially in the drug culture.
DreadLockedHaitian 11y ago
It's not an internet thing, at least in the Northeast. I've fucked way too many "feminist". I intentionally avoid those types now. Too much of a hassle.
FooleryCommaTom 11y ago
Come to the suburban south, man. It's real.
WoahScienceCool 11y ago
Depending on your definition of "the south", Im currently in Texas and have family in New Orleans. Still never, and I mean never, see it (maybe once a year?) anywhere in the country. Maybe its a trend in Mississippi or Alabama or something, but that hardly represents any sort of major trend and people from elsewhere dont even usually go to those states.
FooleryCommaTom 11y ago
Atlanta, bruh. It's big here. Lots of Houston, Tejas family though, and it's pretty big there too.
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WoahScienceCool 11y ago
No ones shaming anybody. I come here to TRP for cold hard facts and what youre spouting is cuckold fetishist, Elliot Rodgers-tier nonsense found only on internet forums.
[deleted] 11y ago
I have this theory that American women are attracted to black guys because they represent all the hypermasculinization that has been so thoroughly bred out of your average beta white dude.
[deleted] 11y ago
Models by manson goes into it in depth; many women have never been with a black guy before and are instantly attracted to the curiosity of fucking a black guy.
In pop culture black men are portrayed as having swagger, natural confidence, being cool, etc. so it makes sense
skoobled 11y ago
It's basically the same as white guys in asia
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gekkozorz Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
Relevant: http://www.returnofkings.com/2090/how-black-america-has-predicted-our-future
Many/most black men have been raised in a culture where you have to compete to be the darkest triad (no pun or racism intended) in order to get the most pussy. Black culture encourages men to redpill up from the very beginning, so a lot of black guys are going to get preselected simply by default. Especially by white college liberals looking to liberate themselves + rebel against daddy.
Of course, this same culture which encourages a mentality that women are actually attracted to also tends to foster crime and poverty as an unfortunate byproduct.
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My best friend is overweight, socially awkward and dresses like a 10 year old boy (poor fitting sports t shirt with baggy jeans and sneakers) when we go out.
But he looks like chris brown and averages about 3 new ONS a month.
feelinglazy 11y ago
Chris Brown isn't overweight
pillomaniac 11y ago
some black guys dont actually know that this is a blessing in disguise.iam a big fan of hip hop (especially the old school) and all that culture was based on alot of red pill stuff.
--people would battle rap and compete agaisnt each other.
--mcs who wrote about real things they did were more respected.
--You had to have your own style or you wouldnt be taken seriously.
Needless to say that even tho the redpill lyrics still there,todays hip hop scene is weaker.
gekkozorz Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
Feminists have been calling "Blurred Lines" a rape anthem for the last several years and been triggered to high hell about it ever since Robin Thicke was so bold as to judge that he "knows she wants it."
And apparently Nick Jonas' "Jealous" is a rape culture song because a white guy could be so arrogant as to want his girlfriend to not want to fuck other dudes.
Also, "Rude," the hyper-beta marriage anthem about the phaggot desperate to gain the hand of a woman in holy matrimony is sexist for daring to make a woman the property of a man.
And this is just the first few pages of search results I got after googling "feminism problematic song lyrics."
And yet I'll be fucked... I've been clicking page after page of these search results, and I cannot find a single black male artist in any of these results. Despite all the presumably sexist as shit lyrics you've heard from Drake, JayZ, Kanye, Lil Shawn, and all the others about bitches and hoes... feminist critiques of these guys' works simply do not exist. Like, at all.
Funny, isn't it? It's almost like dark triad black males get a free pass when being, you know, honest about what women actually want.
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It was a Pharrell song, but tumblr feminists would never dream of going after the ethnic-minority arch-prince of credibility, so they turned their guns on Robin. As for the rapper (whose names escapes me) literally saying "I got something that will tear your ass in two"? Not a fucking word.
un-affiliated 11y ago
One of my favorite thing to do is point out that Robin Thicke revealed under oath that Pharrell wrote blurred lines pretty much completely without Robin's involvement. I've yet to see a single person who thinks the song is offensive transfer their anger from Robin to Pharell. If that had been known from the beginning, the song would have never been controversial.
Edit: You know what they've gone after Pharrell for? The women he's objectifying on his album cover aren't dark enough. You can't make this shit up.
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Can't attack the black, so they went for the whitey, because that's facebook like-bait in a can among the tumblrina set.
Hitlers_Boss 11y ago
I would venture to say that feminists do t attack jayz and other black rappers because they are black and therefore dont fit the evil white man caricature they have portrayed as the sole source of denigration and oppression in this world.
Eminem on the other hand, has been shat on more times than a public toilet in a taco bell
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Nah snoop dog and otherscame under fire by black feminists during the g funk era. Tupac dissed one of them in the how do you want it song.
pillomaniac 11y ago
Well blacvk women do atack those rappers maybe white women just assume they are talkin about black women so they dont really care.
DreadLockedHaitian 11y ago
white women just assume they are talkin about black women so they dont really care.
Accurate.
Heriion 11y ago
I don't see it as a blessing at all. These women are just using black men as sexual beasts to get back at daddy. It's a dehumanization of the man involved, and pretty fucked up if you ask me.
DreadLockedHaitian 11y ago
I don't see it as a blessing at all. These women are just using black men as sexual beasts to get back at daddy. It's a dehumanization of the man involved, and pretty fucked up if you ask me.
As a Black man, I get this impression all the time. As soon as I hear "I hate my father, he's such a bitch" or "My mom cheats on him all the time"; I'm out. I'll never get over the latter one though. The dad literally lived in the house while the mom was getting plowed by some Spanish dude.
Then they wonder why their daughters are plowing all the goons in the neighborhood.
skoobled 11y ago
So they're sexually objectifying them, huh? Didn't you know that's a crime only men can commit?
On a side note, some girl I know in London seems to have got into some ballet circle recently. Seems some tight ballet guy is staying at her place right now. FB photo caption? "this is staying at our place this week"
Heriion 11y ago
This is an amazing exploration of what I briefly mentioned.
johnnight 11y ago
that part at 10:30 about "rape" is trp gold.
skoobled 11y ago
Fascinating video. Thanks for this
pillomaniac 11y ago
i was talkin more about the money side of the game and who cares about her motivation AWALT they will always use for some reason or another,you are a underdog so if u make it you will be 2x more valuable,thats a blessing in disguise.
Heriion 11y ago
Her motivation is pivotal. These types of girls are the ones who falsely accuse men of rape.
pillomaniac 11y ago
yeah even kobe who got paper got hit with it,but meh who cares white girls arent that special if they wanna use you,use them too and make sure you got good game.
Heriion 11y ago
Do you realize how much money Kobe lost? He could've just fucked some prostitute if he was really desperate...hell, he could've gotten any girl between ages 18 to 35, yet he chose a fucking video hoe.
TexAs_sWag 11y ago
Hooked up with an asian girl from Coffee Meets Bagel just this past Valentine's Day. In the morning, she showed me her settings, which she had specially set to Caucasian men. Although I unapologetically prefer asian women, my settings obviously are open to beautiful women of almost any color.
jakethesnake76 11y ago
i wonder how much of this is white skin coming from Hollywood movies and how much is the money and power that white men are perceived to have right now?
watersign 11y ago
jewish guys lke asian girls because asian girls can be slutty and smart too. most jewish girls are just like white girls..totally solispistic, entitled and spoiled.
jakethesnake76 11y ago
So does that mean asian women are more compliant too?
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Invalidity Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
Asian women see white men as being more of a norm than say Asian males. Hence, for them, it's more of an upgrade. As an Asian male, what makes me stand out is that I am neither white-washed nor do I fall into the stereotypes, but for many Asian males, the stereotypes are fairly accurate and some are so white-washed it's unnatural.
Some white males may find Asian women more attractive than white females, but in my experience, white guys generally like Asian females because they are often more petite and they are generally easier to get at. Pussy is pussy and if being white gives men an advantage over other males when it comes to women, they use it.
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dude give me a break, Asians are sooo racist but they put whites on a pedestal, on the flip side whites particularly white male love Asians because they are or (at least think) they are submissive.
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I don't know where that "submissive" thing came from. Asian women tend not to be too assertive in public when they're with a man, but they can be ballbreakers at home.
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Moldy_Gecko 11y ago
Amen Brother! Been in Japan for 10 years and I can attest to almost everything you say. Except I don't buy shit for 19-20's girls. And the reason we go out with those young, easy girls is because Asian wives are notorious for shutting their legs after marriage (worse than American women).
Invalidity Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
If I was white, I'd probably think Asian women were more submissive given what I've seen in white women. White women have become far more entrenched in entitlement than women of other ethnicities, but given enough time, Asian American females will tend to the same too.
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It doesn't take long at all. Just a few years. Guys who think they're going to marry a woman from another country and not have to worry about the poisonous feminist attitudes they find in native born women are really fooling themselves.
Moldy_Gecko 11y ago
Been Married to a Japanese girl almost 9 years, and she is less Americanized than when I met her. I think the key is, we still live in Japan.
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Let me preface, are you white? If so, is there any stigma connected to your wife marrying outside her race? I'm hearing Japan is a very xenophobic culture.
Moldy_Gecko 11y ago
Yes I am white and yes, a little stigma, but not as bad as you would think. Japan is getting more and more used to foreigners... especially ones that try to speak Japanese.
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That's not surprising. I was talking about guys who brought their brides to the states. If you had by now she'd be complaining about the patriarchy and decrying your use of your penis as a weapon of oppression.
Moldy_Gecko 11y ago
Shit, patriarchy would be worse in Japan than the states. Sexual Harrassment is still common and Men rule Japan. I hope it lasts.
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Heh heh. There was an article linked on HN awhile back where the guy was talking about doing business in Japan. There was one particular quote I found particularly revealing:
Moldy_Gecko 11y ago
Haha... nice. I don't actually know the discrimination laws out here, but I can tell you they aren't applied. Or at least the women could care less. It's funny that they say they are approximately equivalent though, considering you put your picture on your application.
Hedphelym1 11y ago
I used to have an Asian oneitis ( lol i know) and i remember what she said to me one day. I was talking to her about moving out and i suggested one area i wanted to live in. And she said with a disgusted look on her face, "But that place is full of Asians". And i said, "Uhhhh, you're asian..". And she's like, "I mean fob Asians". She meant foreign ones that aren't really westernised. It was just weird hearing her say that. It seems like a lot of Asians have a lot of self hate towards their own race.
So as to why Asian women date white guys? I think they think white people are "better". They're ashamed of their own race.
TRPsubmitter Vanguard 11y ago
Lots of Asian Americans have huge complexes with FOBs, especially the fobs that have actually lived in the West for like 2-10 years.
There's often huge fights between AA vs FOB guys at clubs. And the girls tend to be super catty towards each other.
IMO, AAs do this to fobs because it helps AAs feel more legitimately western and accepted, as AAs often have issues fitting in and being accepted.
Cyralea Vanguard 11y ago
It's interesting to see the other side as well. The fobs often use AA's as the butt of their jokes, or as indicators of failure. There's a very real perception of AA's as having "failed" at being Asian in the eyes of fobs.
It's remarkable, but I think there's a bigger rift between AA's and fobs than there are Westerners with either.
TempusRerumImperator 11y ago
I've noticed this as well, not just in Asians, but other recently assimilated groups here do not like the newcomers from their countries.
Personally, i prefer the FOB type girls more, they seem nicer overall.
watersign 11y ago
yeah, all the indians bully the "FOBS" lol...fucking weirdos. jews dont do this to their own people, if you're an israeli their communities will accept u and shit.
TRPsubmitter Vanguard 11y ago
Yes, there's always been conflicts between immigrants and the "natives". I'm sure you can look up instances in the early 1900s in America.
But today, you can see it in cities like Vancouver, it's like 60% asian and many are rich chinese who want nothing to do with the local culture (just like white expats abroad). They don't care to speak english and act in their own fobby way. Then, many asian americans are very proud to be american so this creates some conflicts.
The biggest problems arise usually at clubs when a girl is involved. There's also just prejudices because asians who went abroad to study at college are usually rich and go around acting like it.
watersign 11y ago
can confirm..asian girls love white cock. i even told the ivy league azn girl @ my job that i wasnt into asian girls like that and she said thats hot since she doesnt like guys who fetishize asian women
demoneyes905 11y ago
This isn't super surprising.
Being different makes you more exotic. As an Indian in the states in NYC where there are a ton of other Indians, no one bats an eye as my ethnicity is a common sight.
However, whenever I travel to other countries especially northern Europe and scandanavian countries, I can assure you that it's life on easy mode.
FLFTW16 Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
Interesting and well written post. This paragraph is from PsychologyToday article you linked:
Race hustling is modern-day alchemy. No one knows quite what it is or what constitutes it, everyone has their special formula. To be able to conjure up racism is incredibly valuable. It allows you to silence opponents, bully people into doing what you want them to do, lead the masses into a torch carrying mob against a company or individual that doesn't say or do what you want. You can form diversity panels and "integration" squads. All of these people earn handsome salaries for doing nothing of value. Turning something of no value into value is alchemy.
Neo-ReactionaryHarry 11y ago
Feminism is against interracial dating. How loony is that?
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As a white dude, I have no idea why any women would be attracted to a white dude. imho white guys are either boring or gross.
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FallenHighSchoolJock 11y ago
Are you kidding? In the west they are the majority, and therefore have higher status. How many Asian politicians, actors, athletes and musicians can you name compared to white people? Asians also tend to be extremely beta due to their emasculating upbringing. In the west they aren't pushed into sports, or parties and are encouraged to stay away from girls. Average 'boring, gross' frat boy.. Average Asian-American.. I know a few alpha Asian jock types in frats who have no problems with girls however. To be fair, I think this is partially due to immigrant culture. If you or your parents came to a country and had to work in a laundromat you'd probably push your kids to sacrifice girls and socializing to be successful as well. I'm mixed race myself and have lived in Thailand and many of the local men there are alpha as fuck. You really don't want to mess with a group of working class Thais.
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What you showed is not an average white guy. That guy you just showed is maybe 1 out of 50 white guys; at least here in the NW. Your average Asian does look correct though.
FallenHighSchoolJock 11y ago
Literally every fratboy I know looks like that. It's more to do with physique and frame. Asian men in the west are frankly pussies by and large. My experiences in Thailand really opened my eyes to the pussification of immigrants. I'm not sure what it's like in China/Korea, Japan is of course pussified with 20 percent of men abstaining from sex entirely, but it's normal for a Thai guy to have multiple girlfriends and they just DGAF. Asian-Americans need to take a page out of the Turk's book. In Europe, where I also spent a great deal of my life, they are the ultimate slayers of white women. Whereas the average Swede is pale and feminized Turks all have alpha low inhibition personalities.
Edit: This is the kind of guy who slayed the most pussy back in Germany. Guy in the white shirt.
asianmasaccount 11y ago
Asian guy here. Grew up in a pretty good mixed white/Asian community.
The only time I've ever really heard yellow fever used truly pejoratively is when guys make fun of each other. Don't think I've ever heard the term used by women to criticize men.
I could be wrong?
Or I guess I've heard it used by white girls to criticize white men for going for only Asians and, you know, not going for them.
I dunno, nobody seemed to take any of the criticisms that seriously though, which is good.
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Meh I prefer Asians, they are shorter, they are less likely to get fat/be fat, they age better and aren't quite as shitty as Australian/other anglosphere nationality women.
NeopolitanAfterglow 11y ago
I agree with this post. And thankfully, I'm a white male that absolutely loves Asian women. About 5x the rate I love white women. And Asian women love me about the same rate compared to white women.
I can only imagine how crappy my live would be if I were only attracted to white women.
nrjk 11y ago
Fuck, Asian chicks won't give me the time of day. Latinas do, oddly enough. I've been told it's because I'm bald. I have no idea why. Are Latin men more bald than other races?
fhghg 11y ago
Their men look rough. American men look like fags by comparison. Maybe you've got that machete (sans hair) look they're after.
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General_Fear 11y ago
I have seen this my whole life. Men are attacked for whatever preference they have. The only answer women likes to hear is:
"I like a woman for her mind."
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General_Fear 11y ago
Yep. Shit test. Like just about everything a woman does. One shit test after another.
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The last thing in the world any man wants to do is give up his preferences for a woman. She won't respect you for it anyway. The proper response to whatever attack she makes is "That's the way I roll. The door is over there."
General_Fear 11y ago
Like I said to the other guys' reply. Shit test. Whatever your answer is, she will try to twist it around and make you feel like a heel. So what you say. "I like what I like."
tooglobal 11y ago
I like a woman for her mind. I truly do. (Now let's reframe) Especially when her mind is close to my penis going up and down, or when it's resting on my pillow while I bang her brains out.
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exit_sandman 11y ago
Lol, so true.
Unless you love a woman for her inner values, you're some kind of shallow superficial jerk.
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Redrog1 11y ago
They don't like to hear that answer. That's the only answer they won't give you shit for, which does not make it at all the answer they like.
General_Fear 11y ago
You mean shit test?
Well never gave it much thought. What she says does not matter to me. But I have heard women say that you should like a woman for her mind not her body.
Cyralea Vanguard 11y ago
Because it's a ploy to circumvent natural markers for SMV. A woman's SMV is predominantly her looks. Low-SMV women hate that, and demand that you evaluate them based on a parameter that's more likely to give them higher SMV.
Of course, you can't negotiate attraction. It's a shit test that you pass by dismissing it.
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Don't ask a dish how to catch a fish.
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Back in Univ i asked this Asian girl why Asian women love vanilla so much and the answer gave me made me feel very sorry for white boys. She said, and i quote "they're easier to date, black guys have a strong culture so he'll try to change me. A white guy is a blank canvass" :(
They can collect all the data in the world but in life its always easier to get the answer straight from the horse's mouth
HAMMURABl 11y ago
99% sure this conversation occured in the US.
Redrog1 11y ago
Sounds more like the first shit that came to her mind than anything real. Most probable they prefer white because they perceive them as higher status, but that is not something a women will ever say.
un-affiliated 11y ago
Right. "Easier to control," pretends that she's strong and empowered. If she admitted that she's "trading up" in her mind, she looks a gold-digger and someone who's denigrating any male children she'd eventually have.
Women might not always know the right thing to say, but they all know the answer that will get them into trouble and cost them status.
through_a_ways 11y ago
I think that there's a bit of truth in that, because among whitemale asianfemale couples, there are an extremely large number of jewish guys, who tend to be weak, submissive, controlled by their wives to such a large extent that it's a known stereotype.
Redrog1 11y ago
Good angle. If you think about it more, it's also telling the Asian guy that she can not handle him so she prefers easier "targets". It's a variation of "I'm not with you because you are too good for me", which is obvious crap but it's said in a way contrived enough to make it go through. We all know she would go with the Asian guy if she though he was better, but she says it with enough subtlety and using known stereotypes for the bullshit to work.
Women can be genius of social manipulation when they want.
TRPsubmitter Vanguard 11y ago
There is something to that though.
Many Korean women in Korea have told me numerous times that one of the reasons they date English teachers (not high status in Korea) is because of how "gentlemen" they are. Translation: nice.
Korean-Korean guys are really hardasses about appearance and expect their women to look nice and be under 55 kg. Plus all the cultural duties for women here. By dating a white dude, kwomen can escape all of this. Tons of kwomen say that one of the reasons is to simply escape all the cultural obligations, as white expats here basically just accept any girl who comes along. They don't care if the girl is likable to their parents, cooks, has a good job while Korean guys do care about these things.
For the black guy part, we all know that black culture fosters masculinity better than the suburban millenial hipster white guy culture that is pervasive nowadays. And like I just stated, Asian culture has strict gender roles for their women even though many here think Asian guy = beta. (for example, an Asian guy will be super clingy and pay for everything...but he will get mad if the girl doesn't wear makeup or doesn't cook or doesn't go home at a certain time).
And anecdotally, most of the white dudes I see in Korea are just straight up "nice guys" who have literally no standards when it comes to women. They are afraid to have any proactive desires and just accept anything the woman does. They are 100% living embodiments of feminist culture in that they are always looking for excuses to "defend" Korean women or women in general.
That doesn't happen with Korean guys or Black guys. Korean and Black guys don't go around looking for ways to defend women in order to validate their own masculinity. Plus, Black guys going around here definitely have a preference with their women (hoochie mamma-wannabe Korean girl look). They aren't dating the cutesy types.
This is also why many white dudes in Asia end up with lower quality Asian girls who can't "cut it" with the more strict guys.
feelinglazy 11y ago
Why do you think the expats are emasculated? Are they supposed to be super masculine because they have traveled and learned about the world?
TRPsubmitter Vanguard 11y ago
Not necessarily emasculated. But most in Asia are fresh college grads with zero world experience, zero work experience and out of the ivory tower that is academia with liberal "we have the right" syndrome.
People like that are usually overly concerned with what others think as well as social justice issues. And guys like that aren't going to be insistent on being sexual on their own terms without compromise.
Zachar1a 11y ago
Hamsterization. They want white guys because they are being racist.
oldredder 11y ago
Is this race or culture which happens to correlate a lot with race - but if you take into account generation of immigration, if any, perhaps the answer is different.
Also at http://www.goingyourownway.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1902&d=1424141076 I couldn't see a damn thing. Have to log in & I didn't.
I wonder if there's data there to look at. Graphs aren't enough for me: real data can be really imported to LibreOffice, mySQL, etc. for separate analysis.
jagrmeister721 11y ago
Image is fixed. Data is by Coffee Meets Bagel, and the raw data was not published.
oldredder 11y ago
I get this:
vBulletin Message You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
etc.
No raw data means nothing I can work with - unverifiable. That's unfortunate.
I guess if you want find the inner jpg/png link and post it but honestly without the raw data it means nothing to me.
activist113 11y ago
Go to UCLA and you will understand the true power of Tundra thirst.
snukums 11y ago
I love it. You should go define it on urban dictionary.
VarsitySlutTeamCpt 11y ago
Asians are common and have usually low value and are betas. White men and women have been seen to have that angelic auras.
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