http://revolutionarylifestyledesign.com/game-player-pickup-artist/
Game is the means to obtain and retain women in your league. Game, at its core, is just sales and customer service. Despite what every sales book tells you, selling is 90% product. You’re a salesman, the product is you, your demand is based on your sexual market value, if you have a shit product no one will want you no matter how good your game is. On the other hand, without game, you won’t even be able to order girls off Tinder. To get hot women you need value and game, not either or, that’s why there are so few legitimate players. Despite what pua’s say, attraction can’t be created it can only amplified.
40Watts 11y ago
PUA is improving salesmanship while the red pill is improving the quality of the product.
bsutansalt Vanguard 11y ago
♂ That is an outstanding way of putting it. I'm almost embarrased I never thought of it like that before until now.
40Watts 11y ago
Thank you. I read a similar analogy somewhere on this sub.
trpbot 11y ago
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iamokwithviolence 11y ago
I said that too, and i didn't get a point :'(
tepper2 11y ago
Game is a component of SMV.
NeoreactionSafe 11y ago
Game adds a point or two to your SMV.
If you are Beta that will subtract a few points from your SMV even if you have big $$$.
So it's a complete package.
Women get their SMV and RMV (Relationship Market Value) confused and think because they can get a high SMV for sex they have a chance for relationship, but that's wrong. Women are really bound by RMV but imagine themselves as bound by SMV. (through Validation)
Until they hit "The Wall" and realize RMV was the only true measure for women.
Women can improve their RMV by using more Charm and fewer Shit Tests.
Calamash 11y ago
You don't sell yourself. You make it so the woman sells herself to you.
GuitarHero07 11y ago
Even the best product in the world needs marketing and good salesmanship. Don't l underestimate the value of game. But certainly, it is important to work on all the different components of your SMV. Lift weights, eat right, dress well and make that money. Combine that with tight game and you've got a winning combination.
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bsutansalt Vanguard 11y ago
Your premise is fundamentally flawed as game is a component of what makes up a man's SMV.
ScumbagBillionaire 11y ago
I would argue that you have it backwards.
Your SMV is a component of what makes up your game.
We need to redefine game. I like goodlookingloser's definition.
Game is your ability to get laid. Period. Pussy in vagina.
Game is not making women laugh, cracking "negs", having social skills, being charming, or any of that other PUA bullshit.
Game is your ability to FUCK attractive females.
[deleted] 11y ago
To get hot women all you need is status. You could be socially retarded but if they saw you on the Bachelor they would want to fuck you so that they could brag to their friends
iamokwithviolence 11y ago
Article already says it, but let's put it this way: SMV is value of you as a product, and game is skill of selling the product. Even if you are Jordan Belfort, you won't sell a bag of shit. And even if you are bag of diamonds... well, you will probably sell it even without being a good salesman, but being able to convince person that bag of diamonds is what they need and it's going to change their lives will help you tremendously.
Killigraphy 11y ago
Actually, Belfort was selling truly shit penny stocks, nothing he was selling was by any means "Diamond value". A salesman can sell you a lemon, or in this case a bag of shit, if he lies, and manipulates you into thinking said bag of shit is good for the grass on your lawn, or to keep away bears. A sucker is born every minute, people in general have no idea what they're buying into, this applies to women and male relations...
A woman will cheat on a billionaire for a hot dog vendor simply because he knows how to talk or makes her laugh.
iamokwithviolence 11y ago
He sold penny stocks only in the beginning of his career. Anyway, selling bag of shit as a good product is game. That's exactly what PUA's claim - only game is important.
[deleted] 11y ago
Apparently you don't even need game to get girls off tinder.
http://tinderrage.blogspot.ca/
[deleted] 11y ago
Come the fuck on, nobody behind that blog is "getting" girls off of Tinder, unless your definition of "get" is "bait into a conversation with pictures of male models".
iamokwithviolence 11y ago
Well, they would get them if they WOULD be those models. It was just to prove that if you're really high SMV (model) game doesn't matter. But i wonder how many of those screenshots are true, and how many of not successful ones are not posted.
[deleted] 11y ago
It isn't very hard to game someone after you get their number (in my experience). But if you can't even get to the number stage.....
ExBluepiller 11y ago
Not really. Attraction can certainly be created, that's how some friendships turn into relationships. Consider what you think SMV is, it's not just looks. Similarly, think about what a "hot chick" is. I'd read the sidebar instead of that blog, whoever writes that blog doesn't have a good grasp of TRP.