I have been seeing a ton of threads and comments lately about how older guys (some people are even saying 25 and 26 years old grad students are too old, the fuck?) fucking or dating college students/sorority girls is impossible.

This is of course bullshit, so I'm going to address some of the more common claims. My source? I am a 29 year old professional that lives near two college campuses (with a population of 40,000 and 19,000 respectively). One is a major big ten university with a very well known football team. I almost exclusively date college girls. I have not too long ago screwed around with a sorority girl. Most of the girls are pretty cute. Except for the occasional grunter when it's 2 am and I'm bored and horny, I wouldn't say I fuck anything below a 6 or a 7. I'm in shape but not absurdly so, and I'm pretty short - 5'8".

I am going to break down why you can date college girls and how you're shooting yourself in the foot by convincing yourself you can't.

"College girls only want to date other college students"

Untrue. College girls, like all girls, want to date men that increase their social standing/that are pre-selected. College girls do place less weight on money earned and a good career on the outside - why would they care?

They're well-fed, pretty, and still have plenty of time before the Wall. The fact that you're a mechanical engineer making six-figures at Corporate Job makes you more attractive than a McDonald's Burger flipper, sure. But does it compete with Chad, the relatively in shape but not jacked Brother at Sigma Macho Tau, the hottest fraternity with the best parties on campus (who is majoring in Communications and has a 2.1 GPA)?

Hell no!

Sure, in the long-term you're going to do better than Chad. But status, for a girl is a momentary thing - I don't remember where I read it (CH?) but a good quote to remember is, "there is high turnover in the ranks of the alpha's". A girl is always going to be attracted to the most status she can have AT THAT MOMENT.

What value do you add to her life, what status?

The truth is that...

You are an immigrant to the college (and by extension, the Greek) community.

Even with an identical physical appearance to the frat bro, nice white collar job and a put together life, you've got next to no status in the college community, which is entirely based on social connections.

"... So Cocaine Face, didn't you just say that it was hopeless to fuck or date college girls?"

No, I said it would be -harder- for you than for the average fraternity brother. Welcome to real life, things aren't as easy for some people as they are for others. If you want college-aged girls, you have to put in some work.

Here's a list of things you can do to get into the campus social communities and also how to appeal to attractive girls at college:

1) Lift. You know this. I wish I were jacked. I will be eventually and I'm working towards it. You should be too. If a woman looks at you and is overcome with lust, your job is that much easier. Your status will matter far less if all she can think about is dragging you to a closet and fucking your brains out. While this one isn't strictly necessary, it makes everything else easier

2) Build status. As long as you don't live too far from a college campus this should be easy. Learn how to game girls and make friends. Go to events organized on campus, but open to the community, or if those don't exist, events in the community that college-aged girls are likely to go to. Make friends. Get invited to things. If you have the credentials, teach a seminar class. Go to a Starbucks near campus with a lot of students and work on something cool - maybe play the guitar outside, or be doing something awesome at one of the tables (building an app, writing something cool you can brag about) and then make conversation with girls. If it's a group, play them against each other. Don't always let the hot one win.

3) (optional) Make inroads into the Greek community. How can you add value to the local fraternity or sorority scene? Can you start a side business that mostly targets them? Why would the fraternity brothers want to associate with you and invite you to their parties? Hint: "Because I'm a cool dude" isn't sufficient. Either earn their friendship by offering value in some way, or bribe them with beer. Unless they're super rich, you have more money than they do. They have access to status to bestow on you that will aid you in fucking hot girls. Remember that and use it.

4) Be less emotionally available than you would with a girl that is over 25. Girls over 25 are typically looking for something longer-term - they know the Wall is coming. College girls don't care. "It's party time. Why are you talking about the future, that's what college is for dude, I'll find a husband when I'm older!!" Men of value to them have access to hundreds of promiscuous 18-25 year olds. They don't treat the fact that they are young or cute in a special way. Everyone was that age once. It isn't special. Their peers sure as hell don't care, and neither should you.

5) You look old/like shit. If you dress like shit, and haven't taken care of yourself, you're not going to have sex with them. I used sunscreen for years (try it before you knock it - it's the single-handed best way to stay young looking on earth) because I realized that I'd eventually want to move back to a college campus and have sex with college girls, even in my 30s. I didn't let myself get fat, and I've got a wardrobe that has casual "cool" clothes as well as more sophisticated adult clothes - including an expensive tailored suit.

Are you graying or balding? Cut that shit off and lift more. Do you want to look like a grandpa? Exceptions made if your graying makes you look distinguished like George Clooney. Then keep it.

6) Have a reason and a strong frame. "Why are you hanging around college kids? Are you an immature man-baby? Can't get a woman your own age? Why are you still single?" You -will- get shit tested from time to time. My standard response is, "I don't want babies right now. Every girl over 27 wants babies. Eww."

Cue collective "Ewws" from a bunch of 19 year olds, to whom babies are the furthest thing from their minds.

A good reason is consistent with what you actually believe, and is thus congruent with who you are. Congruency is important for this. If you're not congruent/do not have a strong frame, you will get viewed as a creepy old man looking to prey on young girls - even by the girls themselves.

Your response doesn't ultimately doesn't matter, just pass the shit test and own who you are. You want college girls. The frat bros seem to like you. You aren't an outsider to the campus and you've got status both in and outside of the campus social network. You aren't preying on the kids, you're interacting in their world while also being in your own as a man.

If you go forward with that vision, you'll have a hell of a lot more success than simply saying,

"whine whine, I can't get the college girls, they only fuck the frat bros, whine".

Now, go out and fuck those college girls.