So I saw on my Facebook newsfeed today a girl I went to high school and college with got engaged. We're both 29.
She was an incredibly pretty girl in high school - short, skinny, blonde, just great genetics all around. I never dated her, and I don't think I even talked to her - I was socially shy and not good with women. A few years later, we went to the same college. We didn't move in the same circles here either, but I did at least attempt to talk to her once or twice, and she was always a pleasant sight to see - we'd talk once every few months maybe.
Then, in my junior year, I noticed she was gone. It was subtle at first, I wasn't really looking for her, she was just one of the people I expected to see as the months went by. Years went by, and I never saw her again.
Then, in the build-up to the ten year reunion (which I didn't go to), a bunch of people from high school add each other. At one point I see her recommended as a friend and at this point I had discovered game, so I think, "Sure, why not."
It turns out she had become a single mother from some AF in college.
She was still pretty, but you could tell her looks were starting to fade. I also noticed she posted a lot of pictures with a guy who was relatively overweight, but seemed to be in a lot of baller social situations and vacations - all of which he took her on.
I clicked his name, and it turns out he started a major business in the area, and he's pretty much set for life.
So now, this man who is absolutely in the top 1% (at the very least, the top 10%) in wealth, who can go on trips to anywhere in the world at the drop of a hat - is engaged to a former CC-riding aging single mother.
Don't be that man. He's slovenly and fat - but he doesn't have to be. He's taking care of a aging single mother's alpha bastard, and he doesn't have to be. He'll probably be divorce raped in a few years, and he doesn't have to be.
Always be vigilant, always stay in shape, and always guard your money.

erqos 11y ago
He probably relishes taking on the white knight role, saving the damsel in distress. What he doesn't realize yet is that she can turn on him, like a stray cur that bites the kind stranger trying to feed it a scrap of meat.
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Of course he relishes the role...the fat bastard hamsters the slut wife as a TROPHY wife..
Probably thinks he is "lucky" to have made a few bucks and was able to show her his inner beauty.
The concept of ALPHAFUCKS is lost on him.
And the sad part is that he probably could unplug and be ALPHAFUCKSALPHABUCKS but he sees no need...
Until he check her smartphone.
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cocaine_face 11y ago
So he should improve himself, not settle.
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fhghg 11y ago
One man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm happy for both men.
bluntsmokingking 11y ago
Trash is trash.
Just because you have lived in a dump your whole life doesn't make the trash you are surrounded by any less trash.
brotherjustincrowe 11y ago
Exactly. We need betas for the same reason society needs some unemployment and homelessness/poverty rate.
Dwayne_Jason 11y ago
Shit I don't blame him. We all have that protector instinct. Problem is the Law doesn't see us as protectors but as abusers, even in a situation where she's clearly in the wrong. So she'll ride the meal ticket, giving him that handjob once in a while feeling all tingly when she sees 20 somethings with six packs on the beach wherever they decide to go and eventually, like most, give in.
Cue the teas, the Its Your Fault Our Relationship is Broken, and the please give me a second chance nonsense. If I were him, I'd go to one of those vacations, snag a hot 20 something and dump her ass the next day.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Seriously, a personal trainer for 6 months and he could snag a single 21 year old easy. Hell, I've lost a ton of muscle since injuring my shoulder and I still have no problems.
jcrpta 11y ago
Going off topic, but I was thinking of hiring a personal trainer myself. Have you any recommendations for what I should look out for?
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pickledpeas 11y ago
http://stronglifts.com/5x5/ That's all you really need to know buddy. You might need somebody (a PT or a friend) to teach you the correct technique and form for the movements but after you get the technique down... away you go.
boscoist 11y ago
Dont do it. I've had one for 6 months now (stuck on contract) and if anything he is retarding my gains. He's a competitive lifter, but he never pushes to go harder. I specifically asked for someone who would run you ragged. I've been the only one increasing the weight/reps for at least 3 months.
deepfriedcocaine 11y ago
I imagine that you'd be better off just bringing a friend to the gym once the contract ends.
boscoist 11y ago
If my only friends who lifted didn't live 300 miles away. I was back lifting with them + my brother over the holidays and they spotted a few form issues on bench that my trainer completely ignored. I haven't made any friends interested enough in fitness to commit to a lifting plan that is schedule compatible with work.
The new plan is to skype periodically with my buddy who does lift like hulk and stay on track that way.
deepfriedcocaine 11y ago
Yeah I've got the same problem where I live now. Most of my friends here play sports but they won't join me at the gym.
boscoist 11y ago
I'm an engineer, you don't even know bro. I've got my racquetball league though.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Stick with someone who will teach you compound movements with a barbell.
Almost anything else (for weight lifting) is trash.
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That's such a vague statement. I've been doing nothing but isolation for three months 6 days a week & i'm seeing improvements.
qwo88 11y ago
3 months is nothing. Move on to compound exercises ASAP. Later you'll regret it that you didn't start yesterday.
This is a great program: http://www.stronglifts.com/5x5/
comefromaway2 11y ago
Compound moments are movements like squat, dead lift, bench press, overhead press, and bent over row. They are the most important moment for building muscle and being strong.
cocaine_face 11y ago
This, 100%. What do the strongest, most ripped men do to get stronger?
Barbell movements. There's a pithy quote in Starting Strength that says something along the lines of, "The squat is the best and most important barbell strength exercise, and thus, the best strength exercise period." - the original quote was wittier, but the point is clear - compound barbell exercises are the way to workout if you want to gain strength. Nothing else compares. No machine will help you as much as a simple bar of iron.
cocaine_face 11y ago
You'll see improvements, but not nearly as quickly and at the risk of injury.
The problem with isolation exercises (some of which have some limited utility on top of doing compounds) is that they can make your muscles stronger, but not all of them equally.. That can mean one muscle is way stronger than another muscle in the chain, and can handle more weight. That leads to both inefficient gains in strength as well as the potential for injuring the weaker muscles.
Add that with the fact that compounds work out a lot MORE of your muscles at once, and you're in a far better position overall when it comes to strength gaining.
So sure, you can get gains that way, but it's a less efficient process, and more importantly, can potentially cause you injury.
Squats are just about the best way to increase your strength level - and they release a ton of testosterone because of all the large muscles they're working out. Do heavy squats and watch how you're horny like a monster for the next three days.
And Comefromaway2 mentioned several other important lifts as well.
Source: I did compound exercises (mostly power, some olympic) for 6 months and went from being barely able to lift 15 pounds (consistently, obviously) to in some exercises lifting almost 200.
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That sounds good. The problem is I have scoliosis & titanium rods supporting my spine that I have broken before, so I'm generally avoiding exercise that puts any pressure on my spine. I'd love to do squats & the rest but at this time It's probably better I don't.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Yeah then you've got special needs and I highly recommend going to a professional (doctor or physical therapist) before doing any lifting program.
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I'm working on it. Moving soon & working on some other stuff, but if all goes well I'll be looking into a new surgical procedure that means I'll not be able to lift anything over 10kg for up to a year. But after it heals I should be good to go. I'm 5"0 25 years old so you can imagine I'm pretty weak, I just want to get as strong as possible and not pathetically outclassed by most women & men.
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FooleryCommaTom 11y ago
Read the sidebar before you comment here. The downvotes are because you added zero value to the conversation with that comment. If you want quality in this subreddit, you can't contribute bullshit. This isn't /r/funny.
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johnnight 11y ago
Maybe she is a Julia Roberts type Hooker with a Heart of Gold (tm) and he is Richard Gere, who knows.
[deleted] 11y ago
Not in our legal system. A single mother shows very poor decision making already, there's a good chance she'd implode that relationship too, especially since she gets huge financial incentives to do so.
90% of today's social issues are based on misandrist courts and laws that implode the family structure. Feminists are too dumb to realize that they ultimately lose out, especially as men awaken. Most people will be RP within a decade or so, unless the system starts making huge changes (it won't though).
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What makes you say a decade or so?
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[deleted] 11y ago
While you seem to be missing the point, you are correct about protecting yourself against divorce rape. Everyone here takes the stance, well people get divorce raped, even with a pre-nup so you can't protect yourself. You can, it just isn't as simple as having her sign a piece of paper. I think it's a net negative that people have this attitude instead of educating themselves on how to protect themselves.
waylandertheslayer 11y ago
Divorce laws change from state to state (within the US) and even more in other countries, so it's hard to come to a consensus. But even just within the US, it's really hard to safely do unless you have a complicated and expensive workaround, and/or someone you trust implicitly (like a parent).
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That's absolutely correct. The deck is stacked against you, but that just makes it more important to research and plan if you decide to get married. I don't plan on ever getting married because I see no value gained. I'm just saying, it's a risk that can be managed.
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Hehe divorce raped. I like this term.
Entershikari 11y ago
I feel almost bad for this neckbeard who's a brilliant and hardworking entrepreneur who'll get half of his hard work taken for being a BB
Our eyes are open don't be that guy.
mstersmith 11y ago
Is it wrong I want to be the guy she fucks on the side? Kidding...sort of.
cocaine_face 11y ago
I'm with GayLubeOil on this - if the opportunity comes up, I'll absolutely see about fucking her. But I haven't even seen her in years, and I don't really care to put any effort into the process, if it would even be successful.
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Your type always shows up. Why?
cocaine_face 11y ago
I just don't understand what in the story seems so far-fetched to make him say that.
pandab34r 11y ago
Because we need to bring the truth to this cesspool of a subreddit
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We're perfectly happy with our "non-truth". No need to come in and bring us anything, we are fine on our own. Thank you come again.
pandab34r 11y ago
I don't care what you're happy with or not.
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Cool cupcake. See you later.
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AlfredTheGreatest 11y ago
Naw, this guy has it made. Ugly guy with money gets hot chick with a kid. Both are happy. I feel like this is an RP success story if anything.
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[deleted] 11y ago
Dude, really? Like really? I think your missing the concept of TRP cause that's the exact opposite of it.
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OP (and most of the commenters) are sour grapes hating on a guy who goes on baller vacations with his wife who is still pretty when he's not running his wildly successful business.
We have no idea if his money is protected from divorce but you can do that with trusts. But no, he's obviously doing it all wrong and the pretty girl is clearly a bitch too because fuck her.
Who exactly is missing the concept?
grewapair 11y ago
This situation is a bit more complicated than plain divorce rape.
Baller types live large to mask their insecurity. This means he'll provide for her, and the kid, very well. Best neighborhood will mean best schools, expensive vacations, etc.
She'll divorce him when the kid is out of college or his money runs out. She won't get much due to a prenup, but that was never the point. She can take so much of his money right now that she isn't worried about the divorce. Most Baller types don't keep their money for long anyway.
Tarnsman4Life 11y ago
Hopefully he was smart enough to get a real good pre-nump. Some Beta's even turn the corner sort of to Alpha and view pussy as an investment.SOME BETAS are smart enough to realize it is an exchange, her well used pussy (for a while) in exchange for those bucks and it is just a matter of time before either the pussy gets old or she gets bored.
cocaine_face 11y ago
It could be that he knows what's up. He takes her on trips - which seems to indicate he knows he's paying for it, but in a respectable manner.
Tarnsman4Life 11y ago
Real high level wealthy Beta's do learn a lesson or two from Alphas; if they didn't/couldn't they wouldn't be wealthy (assuming they are not trust fund babies).
CrimsonCapsule 11y ago
Yuuuup.
I've had a woman on my Facebook for a while — and man, back in high school, she was really top-tier. Out of my league. A-list. In-crowd. She walked like Rhiannon.
And she hadn't really communicated much...until this last Christmas. Suddenly, likes and comments everywhere. Have I been combing my hair different? What's going on?
Hm. Lots of holiday pictures of her kid here. And of her, and...let's see, dad must be around here somewhere...hmmm...
Ding!
Ah.
Hubby is MIA.
Now, I've always seen her as a nice enough person. Kid looks well cared-for. And I hope she finds some dude, and locks him down, and spends so much time working his knob and feeding him steaks that he doesn't notice the situation he's gotten himself into.
But that dude is not gonna be me. I can spot the thin edge of a wedge, and it looks like a thumbs-up on Facebook.
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darthsmokey 11y ago
Divorce rape? Check, Tell all book about it ? Check
Oh the irony
GuitarHero07 11y ago
I'm 30 and you really start to see AF/BB in play around this age. I know a bunch of party girls from high school who are now settling down with less attractive but financially successful betas.
I knew a girl in high school who used to be a big time party animal. Quite good looking too. She only used to fuck jocks. I visited her in college a few times where she took me to some crazy frat parties. She went through at least 5 frat boys that I know of (probably WAAAAY more in total). Last year she snagged herself a portly stock broker just as her looks began to fade.
Another girl I knew from high school got suspended for having a threesome on campus with one of the football players. I wonder if she told her chubby lawyer husband about this. I know she rode the CC hard in high school and judging from her Facebook pics, that continued all through college.
Finally, I knew a pharmacist chick who just recently turned 30. I used to treat this girl like dirt. She was a girl I'd bang when I had no other options for the night. There were days when I was feeling kind of horny, and I was about to jerk off but I instead called her over for a blowjob. After a while I got sick of her and I pawned her off to a couple of my friends and she got passed around like a joint. She's now engaged to some poor beta schlub who treats her like a princess. I've seen multiple Facebook status updates of him bragging about cooking her meals, cleaning up her dog's shit and taking her out to expensive restaurants.
1independentmale 11y ago
I guarantee she didn't. As far as he knows, she's not that kind of girl. He's one of those typical married men who has to jump through hoops to score points he may later be allowed to exchange for sex, unless she moves the target (again).
The hamster will say that just because she did it in the past or with another doesn't mean she has to do it now or with you, and she's right: She doesn't owe you shit. That being said, neither do I and I'll be damned if I'm going to let some washed up post wall whore charge me full price for a tiny fraction of what she used to give out for free. Really, occasional duty sex with no adventure and the price is a ring and the most expensive party ever plus half of everything when she eventually tires of our little arrangement?
Fuck. That. Shit.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Yeah, I've definitely started seeing a ton of BB-type situations around this age. It's one reason why I won't seriously date (and honestly, fuck most of the time) anyone over 25. It was actually a female friend (33) of mine (post-wall) trying to undermine a girl (27) I was dating at the time that first pointed out the concept of BB to me - "she doesn't like you, she likes that you fit the role she wants" (I make good money, and I'm in a profession that has a lot of earning potential).
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the99percent1 11y ago
it's called nice guys finishing last.. Like it's some status to be proud of. Fuck being nice to sluts.
PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
Women win in the end :) there will be plenty of white knights to save the day.
wakethfkupneo 11y ago
Win what exactly? Beta bucks ... yea, sure. But it's not what they really want. It's only what they have to settle for, cause they ran out of options. Pyrrhic victory.
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nicethingyoucanthave 11y ago
There's a certain type of girl, and I can smell her a mile away, and I can get her every time, if I want to. I'm single, I'm sane, I'm well put together, and I have a great career. That particular type of girl, who is pushing or (god help them) over 30, they pretty much fall over on their back with their legs in the air if you say "hi" to them.
Jokes on them because while I'll fuck the shit out of them, I'll only chase a girl under 30.
I'm honestly feeling a little sorry for them, because as much as we at the red pill understand how society has lied to us about human sexuality, they've been lied to as well. These are good women, who just wanted to be happy in their lives. And they could have been! But they were told when they were young, "don't worry, you can totally have it all. Have fun now and everything will fall into place when you're over 30." They were lied to and they're paying for it now. Sucks to be them.
I was hanging out with a friend tonight, and I tried to gently explain this to her, but she wouldn't listen. Oh well.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Yes, and this is when you start getting the "real man" shaming.
Sorry honey, I don't exist so you can live out your fantasies. I'm going to go fuck the hot 19 year old now.
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ProjectShamrock 11y ago
I know someone who fits this to a T. Not only that, but she was interested in me in the past (I was already married) but prior to meeting her husband, she used to go out drinking with us and partying hard. She always would flirt with a lot of guys and went home with some very questionable people.
Anyway, after having kids my wife and I stopped going out much, and remained in contact with this friend but not close. She hit 40, and something happened, and suddenly she finds a husband (who has been compared to me in appearance but that's another topic.) Then, she gets pregnant. He says one is enough, but she convinces him and then she gets pregnant with child #2. Then she basically forces him into child #3, and they're done. This guy is so clueless, he's known me as an acquaintance for a few years and has even been inside my house but when I saw him around the holidays he acted like he was meeting me for the first time (maybe because I shaved?)
Anyway, she got off the CC, got married, forced this schmuck into having multiple kids that he didn't really want, and she lost her looks completely. If I were single when I first knew her, I would have definitely hit it but not gotten into a relationship. Now, it would probably take being stranded on an island with her and lots of alcohol.
cocaine_face 11y ago
I have a friend who has a friend. His wife is just shy of 30, and they've had two or three kids. He's let himself go - his stomach his fat, he's entirely pussy-whipped. His wife is even allowed to kiss other men drunk - she did once to me, the first night I met her several years ago.
Anyway, we went out for my friend's birthday, and the entire night, the wife was flirting with me. We had went to a bar and grill early in the evening, and I got the waitresses number, even though she had a boyfriend. This drove both of the girls into a frenzy. For the rest of the night, I'm doing my thing, hitting on girls, dancing with them, getting numbers.
At one point I've got two girls dancing with or near me, one of whom I'm kissing a little bit with.
The wife of the friend IMMEDIATELY starts grinding up on me, and has her female friend also start to bother me. They were intentionally trying to fuck up my game due to jealousy.
When we get back to their house, we're grabbing things out of the car, and the husband is in the house. The wife girl and her girlfriend say, "Wow boy, you have game", and then the wife girl jumps on my back.
We all then go have beers in the garage, and the husband goes on and on and on and on about how amazing his wife is, and how I still haven't, "found the one", and how that girl will change me entirely. Note, I've literally had this dude's wife on my back, hugging me and grinding up on me within the past hour, with constant fuck me eyes and her trying to get me to drink (I think to make out with her).
I hope he gets his act together before she divorces him.
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I hate everyone I see on facebook too, OP.
TruthInPain 11y ago
Lol, if you're broke - attractive women with sense are not going to give you the time of day. Only beta females who put sex > resources are going to form long term partnerships with men who can't support them. Anything otherwise would be contrary to the primitive sexual motivations which underlie female survival and reproduction. Get your money up and stop getting mad. If old / fat men have more money and more attractive women than you, YOU'RE doing it wrong. And if he's old and fat, then he's winning if she's attractive. It's a direct exchange. And why would you even mention whether or not he's attractive?
Fucking is for entertainment. If anything smart females are better at finding men with resources to support their children v.s. being single and broke in some apartment in the hood. And he still wins because he's rich, has an attractive wife despite being unattractive, and is actually shaming the father by raising his child (which isn't hard because he's rich).
Hatorader 11y ago
Shaming the father lol. A rich bitch can raise my sperm anytime.
cocaine_face 11y ago
He's not old - he's like my age, about 30-ish, maybe 35-ish. I don't think he's older than 40.
canterburymale 11y ago
You don't need money,looks,status to get good pussy... You just need to have game. Charles-fucking-Manson got himself a skinny 25 year old bitch.
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Well he cant say he didn't understand the risks when the inevitable comes.
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i know right! why even bother checking her facebook out if you know shes now a post wall single mom!
cocaine_face 11y ago
It popped up on my newsfeed.
LifeAtPeace 11y ago
Buddy, I enjoyed reading your post. It was like a warning to everyone who want to be the protector for a damsel in distress. I used to believe in women being the victims until I found this sub. Keep posting.
cocaine_face 11y ago
What shit am I talking? It is very obviously not a smart idea for this guy. He can do better. As can I - I wouldn't date her. I'd fuck her, sure, if the situation came up, but she's old now, and we don't interact at all/haven't seen her in at least 8 years. The investment wouldn't even be worth it to even try to make a situation like that happen.
dotrar 11y ago
"this post screams bitterness and jealously"
"how? .... I'd fuck her, sure, ...."
that was completely irrelevant to the response.
cocaine_face 11y ago
It was me stating that sure, I find her attractive (as I do most skinny girls with cute faces), but I don't find her particularly noteworthy and certainly not the guy's decision. There's not really many ways to respond to someone saying, "YOU'RE BITTER!" that doesn't make you sound more bitter, but since it's my thread, I usually feel compelled to engage with most people commenting on it.
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cocaine_face 11y ago
Exactly. Why should any man put in that sort of effort towards a woman - especially a 29 year old with a kid?
Short answer: He shouldn't. There are a lot of better girls out there to choose from. That's the lesson to take from this.
bobbatosakosanose 11y ago
Rich people tend to be a lot like celebrities. In that most of their friendships and relationships are fake and there just for their money. As a result they are very skeptical and almost insecure. If he had to work hard for his wealth, this protective mechanism might have been in his psyche. But you know what they say.. a fool and his money. If he doenst learn the first time, he will learn the second.. or third.. or even fourth. And maybe become another Tom Leykis type.
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Stop manufacturing reasons to make you feel better being not-rich.
SOAADDICT 11y ago
Yup. Lots of male hamsters in this thread.
Redrog1 11y ago
But he has a point. Success brings complacency a lot of the time. Success in one area is used to compensate failures in others. Its human nature.
bobbatosakosanose 11y ago
I am not. Lol. I was quoting Felix Dennis.
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I love Felix Dennis, but that doesn't sound like something he would say.
monsieurhire2 11y ago
I bet their meeting was totally serendipitous too, as in she just happened to be in place where a bunch of high status men were hanging out, and then they fell in love.
cocaine_face 11y ago
I don't know the exact story of how they met, but I think she worked for him at one point.
SMEGMA_CHEESE 11y ago
I'm never getting married again. It's stupid.
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Depending on the guy, he might feel that he got a great deal. Just because he is wealthy doesn't mean he has alpha tendencies in his relationships.
There are many high earners that go home to get browbeaten by their wives.
Hats off to her. She did well.
unpluggedoasis 11y ago
Came to say this. Alpha is a set of behaviors.
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I don't give her hats off. I don't think she did anything hard.
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Hard or not. She is a single mother that snagged a rich guy who married her (I think)
Some other women don't have the skills to snag a steady bf.
The same way red pill strategy is used to maximize yourself, she used her strategy to make the most of her situation.
Hopefully, they live their life acting as if they made the best possible choice.
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As long as a woman isn't overweight and an obvious bitch she can get a beta bucks. She didn't really do anything difficult and will eventually take away from all the hard work the man did.
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PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
Nature of women.
A woman will have her cake and eat it too. She'll fuck around, have kids, and just as she is about to hit the wall she'll get wifed up by a beta who hasn't had sex in 4 years. All she has to do is introduce him to a one fun time in the sack and the rest tapers off.
Once the ring is on, she can really let herself go.
DreamBoatGuy25 11y ago
He could obviously do better, there are a ton of 10/10 virgin models in eastern europe who he could wife in a heartbeat. Apparently Russia even has gold digger finishing schools where women are honed to the height of feminine perfection in order to net a rich guy. But from his perspective if he's happy, well then good for him.
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I've heard about something of the sort existing in China instead of Russia.
SOAADDICT 11y ago
This. I don't really see the value in posts like this that seems to aimed at pointing and laughing at betas. I don't care about the betas out there getting laughed at, I care about the hamsters in here.
OP is congratulating himself for not making the mistake he perceives a total stranger he knows little to nothing about to have made... rather than working on himself. It reeks of jealousy, actually. Go get your career where his is. Get to the top yourself. Then once you are there you can make your own choices what to do, but until then, put your head down and work. This post just reeks of "well I don't have what he has that I want but lol he's a beta" to me.
cocaine_face 11y ago
It's not that at all. It's a warning to men not to do what he did. We've got, what, 20,000 new members in the past 2 months? These examples are important for the new blood.
I'm not as rich as him, may never be, but I'm starting my own business and before injuring myself, I lifted for 6 solid months. This isn't a jealousy thing (sadly, saying, "this is not a jealousy thing always comes off as if it's a jealousy thing"). I feel everything I get is based on my own efforts, so there's not really room for me to feel jealous in my world. And especially, there's no point to it.
SOAADDICT 11y ago
I'll actually give you "this is not a jealousy thing," because I don't know your motives. But here's why this particular story is not valuable to new members: if you were talking about your best friend, or your dad, or a chick you knew really well it would be one thing. But from the way you told the story above it appears you actually know next to nothing about these people except that she has a kid and he has money. Even taking AWALT into account there is no way you could possibly draw the conclusions you have here if you weren't projecting.
What I mean is, the man could have 5 kids from 3 previous baby mamas and have wanted a woman with experience with kids. The man could desire to remain fat and sloppy and understand that no true RPW is going to tolerate or thrive in that king of a leadership vacuum, so he settled. The girl could have actually gotten out of college because she realized hr HR degree was bullshit and she would rather be a wife, married, served that dude well, then he died, and she's spent the last three years celibately planning how well she will serve her new man when she finds him. You have no idea what really happened here past a few Facebook photos, and you are projecting all sorts of qualities onto the situation that leave you in a superior position to two people you know nothing about.
That's rationalization. That's hamstering. I get what you're trying to do for new members and see the value and commend it, but you would be better off pulling together some data on single mothers, or finding an interesting article, or writing up a field report about your last date/any situation you know intimately. Judging situations based on next to nothing but the ideas in our own heads is women's business and we shouldn't be in it.
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I'm partial to African girls myself.
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brotherjustincrowe 11y ago
Most African societies are highly patriarchal, there's a much greater chance of an African woman being raised by an alpha father.
PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
Been to Jamaica, the black women down there are polite, respectable, feminine, and graceful. A society with proper gender roles. If you can crack the race barrier, there's some potential wives down there.
An_All-Beef_Engineer 11y ago
Why would you need to crack the race barrier for that? Honest Answer would be appreciated...
Meto1183 11y ago
Crack the race barrier is a catch-all for whatever needs to be done for any individual to break down racial barriers. A lot of people have some serious same-race tendencies, break those down and your opportunities expand.
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PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
Mostly if she is willing to leave her family and country for a white guy international. Unless she's a slum gal, family is an issue.
Women date within their race just like men do.
through_a_ways 11y ago
Because people generally have standards. In much the same way that women prefer white men in the dating game, men prefer white women in the marriage game.
This is also the main reason why you hear over and over again that "foreign/black/Asian girls are so much better". They are of lower social status, and committing to them will give your progeny lower social status. To maintain equilibrium, they make up in other places (sex, working out, demureness, etc.)
Men generally don't care about status when short term dating/fucking, while women care about it a great deal. This is why there is only slight racial inequality among women in the dating/fucking game (save black women, which is probably due to physical features).
I actually suspect that the interracial marriage stats actually make the "post racial-ness" of romance seem a lot more apparent than it actually is. IIRC, the number of asian male white female marriages is pretty significant, although still lower than the number of white male asian female marriages.
I suspect that if you were do a census of "interracial short term dating/fucking", you would see a lot more white male asian female, and a lot less asian male white female.
An_All-Beef_Engineer 11y ago
That makes sense, but what's your take where black women and the 'slight racial inequality among women in the dating/fucking game' is concerned?
through_a_ways 11y ago
Are you asking why black women are much less desired than other races of women?
Probably mostly due to physical features, the high prevalence of obesity, and to some extent, social incompatibility and lack of assimilation.
ThusAlways4Deadbeats 11y ago
Half Asian progeny aren't really of a lower social class. I'm pretty sure I've never seen an unattractive half Asian and most are very well educated.
through_a_ways 11y ago
Yes, they are. "Attractiveness" =/= social status.
waylandertheslayer 11y ago
I don't get why so many people disagree with your personal taste.
Hypocrite_Redditor 11y ago
Like it or not there are a lot of racists here.
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Like it or not, it speaks for itself.
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812
Meto1183 11y ago
Does it speak to the fact that iq tests mean nothing, those people in Africa have been fighting poverty and lacking education their entire lives, and that people of African descent exist in the USA and clearly didn't bring down their average versus places with smaller African-descended populations?
a-orzie 11y ago
African descent in the USA?
Do any live in Missouri?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Income
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Crime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#United_States_test_scores
through_a_ways 11y ago
Another good example of the dramatic decline in posting quality this sub has seen in the last few months.
The average black IQ in America is 85. That's the most generous estimate, and American blacks are 20% white on average.
The bulk of the current difference is due to genetic differences.
comefromaway2 11y ago
It is definitively a product of culture, black people grow up in black culture and it is this and the socio-economic factors that determine how intelligent you will be. You are confusing the correlation with the causation.
waylandertheslayer 11y ago
I'm trying to be open-minded, but I'd be very interested to see numbers that are adjusted for poverty. I'd not be surprised if the average IQ of white trash were around 80, for example. Context is key.
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hermit087 11y ago
Reminds me of this post by Roosh: http://www.rooshv.com/the-wall-is-softer-than-we-think
In this corner of the internet, we like to gloat about how men have it better than women with regards to aging, but the truth is that many women manage to marry a decent (but thirsty)man long after hitting the wall. Hell, Matt Damon is married to a single mother. Or for an even worse example, look at QB Kurt Warner. His wife was a former Marine(read: very high notch count) and single mother of two children when they met. I'm fairly certain she is older than him as well.
http://deadspin.com/5134878/so-thats-what-happened-to-brenda-warner
In that picture, we see an MVP and superbowl winning quarterback at the peak of his playing career with the Rams, next to his double-single mother wife with graying hair. The wall truly is softer than we think.
cocaine_face 11y ago
There are certainly some girls who hit the wall and remain relatively unscathed, but I don't think it's anywhere near most of them. Hell, I have an ex that'll be 29 in less than a month and you can already tell things are going downhill. Hell, I dated a girl who was 26 with big boobs, and they were already starting to sag.
BuckStricklandx 11y ago
Alpha Bastard sounds like a cool name for a band
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tdboss 11y ago
Okay you guys are missing the point. This guy is only a few millimeters off center here. He has the money thing down. That's the most important. Fuck all this game shit he may not even give a fuck about her. Prolly just too comfy sitting on all that cash.
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cocaine_face 11y ago
I obviously can't confirm anything 100%, but she was known for partying at least a decent chunk of the time. Whether that was just Facebook posts for show (look at my AWESOME SINGLE LIFE) or not, I don't know.
PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
If it's anything like my ex, after she pops out a kid and the man splits making her a single mom, she rides the OKcupid CC till she lands her beta buck.
She would eat for free on weekends and have her bar tabs and cover charges paid by her weekend dates. Slept with quite a few of them.
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PlanB_pedofile 11y ago
It is what it is. Be amazed how well okcupid men pays for lunch and movies for women. She'll line up a date in the afternoon and another date by evening.
She was probably a plate to multiple men. (Even back to me at one time)
Yea.... keep that in mind when spinnin and tinderin. You're basically feeding her and being another horse on her carousel.
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stemgang 11y ago
$75,000 is 70th percentile, not 99.89%. http://www.whatsmypercent.com
Comparing against the world doesn't make sense when you are not competing against the world. Generally her pool of suitors is going to be limited to her country and her language.
cocaine_face 11y ago
Exactly. I was talking in terms of first world (American specifically) wealth.