I am an 18 yo straight/"cis" male attending a highschool in Southern California. Many of my friends are active in tumblr and fairly strong feminists, which I supported for many years until recently.
They have one by one come out at bi, then pan sexual, then asexual and homoromantic, and it has degraded into more abortrary forms sexual orientation that I have to look up the terms whenever someone comes out to me now.
It has gotten to the point where I am constantly surrounded by people judging me for being simply straight, and particularly for being born male and still identifying as male. It's like its not socially acceptable to identify as the same gender I was born with, and the only gender I have ever know.
Last night I found myself at a small party of 7 people and part way through realized there was only one other straight person there, a 17 yo male. The rest of the group was mostly female, including pansexuals, lesbians, gay men, and pansex/homoromantic. I've never judged them purely for their sexual orientation, but just the way they treat me.
At one point, one of the girls said something to the affect of "God, boys are such douches, why do you even like boys??"(this was directed at a gay male). I am fairly shy but interjected that "hey that was rude", and nearly everyone said "oh of course not you, just everyone else".
I took that and was momentarily satisfied thinking that they didn't actually judge me, but as I thought about it more, if I had said "God girls are idiots, why do you even like them??" And pointed at a lesbian girl, I would have probably been kicked out, regardless of how I tried to defend the statement.
I am just sick of being judged for being straight by so many people I used to consider close friends, and last night it really hit me and I've been upset about it since then.
If you guys have any advice on how to confront this issue to them I would really appreciate it. I don't want to be rude and I don't dislike their identity, I just need to find a way to make them realize they are being hurtful.

BluepillProfessor 11y ago
Your experience is sick and abnormal.
Almost all "lesbian" women have taken the dick.
You need to maintain your frame in the face of this deviancy.
Also, get new friends. What the hell are you doing? These same cis-bi-trans feminists will be angry cat lady in a few more years. Start hanging with MEN, not spiteful women and manginas.
YOU ARE NORMAL. THEY ARE NOT. That is all.
[deleted] 11y ago
Don't call yourself cis. It's ridiculous.
/r/askttrp for stuff like this in the future
I would find new friends, which is harder said than done.
[deleted] 11y ago
You can't. Not in that environment. Women don't think logically, they think emotionally. It doesn't matter what the truth is as long as people like what you're saying.
If you MUST say something, I might suggest mentioning that you don't know any "douche" boys, or fewer than you know decent ones. I recommend against it and rather cutting those people out of your life.
[deleted] 11y ago
This shit is getting so ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. All these stupid labels that don't mean shit except an attempt to use language to destroy masculinity. I agree with everyone else. You desperately need new friends. Cut these faggots out of your life.
14789632587412369 11y ago
We should come up with our own absurd terms to promote traditional masculinity. I'm a svelte-scandinavian-osexual im only attracted fit blonde women.
Hughtub 11y ago
Fucking pansexual? Homoromantic? Who the fuck is the origin of this crap?
[deleted] 11y ago
Feminism is attempting to destroy masculinity (gender is a social construct!) by altering our language. Straight out of dystopian fantasy. For awhile I was spinning a 19 year old plate and she had all kinds of information about this fucking whack job baloney. The younger kids are even worse.
SpartanLegend 11y ago
Because of the feminization of society, almost everyone is a fucking attention whore. Claiming to be some random orientation is a way to get more attention for those that want to seem different and "unique" just like the millions of other "unique" teenagers out there.
anonlymouse 11y ago
Homo/heteroromantic is for "asexual" people who still want relationships. Usually closet gays who use asexual as a shield from criticism, but still have some very deep 'friendships'
Pansexual was to get around TERFs who only accepted lesbianism and attacked bisexual women. Pansexual is either bisexual or none of your fucking business with a different term that is somehow acceptable to radfems.
mateodeloso 11y ago
Eh, its this weird sexually confused shit the kids these day are doing.
I went on a daye with a 19yo who said she was pan-sexual, still liked getting her hair pulled like the rest...
TRPsubmitter 11y ago
pansexual sounds like they fuck trees or worship Pan, the ancient goat god of mischief or something.
rcglinsk 11y ago
What if in part they actually are pan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin
TheRealMouseRat 11y ago
pansexual means that you love 3 genders or more. for this to be an orientation one has to believe that trans people are a different gender, and not just the gender they have changed to. so in reality it's just and other word for bisexual.
the_red_scimitar 11y ago
No it doesn't. I've dated self-identified pansexuals. It means not only that they can be attracted to any natural gender, they can be attracted equally to transgendered individuals and individuals with any sexual orientation and gender. Obviously there can be combinations that might not be attracted to the pansexual person.
TRPsubmitter 11y ago
LOL. What if you just like 2/3 then? Male/female, trans/female, male/trans?
We need terms for these! There are literally dozens of people around the world being persecuted for not having a victim label attached to their sexual preferences! Wahhhh!
Cyralea 11y ago
Special snowflake syndrome. Just like every basic bitch needs to have a specially crafted Starbucks drink suited to her unique character, so too does she need an identity that reflects her 'unique' sexuality.
[deleted] 11y ago
A transender is still the sex he/she was born as. You can't change chromosomes
TheRealMouseRat 11y ago
If you like two genders, then you're bi. But I think that's actually what demisexual is. (liking two genders where one of them is trans)
TRPsubmitter 11y ago
Demi...so funny.
Well it's a very sneaky marketing tactic to assign labels to anything that has no credibility in order to grant it credibility.
That is what "intelligent design" does. As soon as you get a scientist to acknowledge its existence with a label and to engage in debate against it, you've instantly granted it credibility.
goofproofacorn 11y ago
3 genders ? What the fuck. There are only 2
BluepillProfessor 11y ago
I count at least 9:
Alpha Males
Beta Males
Manginas/White Knights
Womyn
Women
Feminists/Carpet munching Lesbians
Grindr Style dick sucking men
FM Transexuals
MF Transexuals
TheRealMouseRat 11y ago
that's my opinion too. head over to /r/TumblrInAction to see what sick things some people believe. I think the many genders thing comes from the idea that a transperson isn't a man nor a woman, it's a third thing, which I think is discriminating to trans people, but tumblrinas who are apparently trying to stand up for trans people think that many genders is great. mainly I think it's just a way for girls to show themselves as special snowflakes without being any different.
smokeybehr 11y ago
To the feminist crowd, gender identity isn't a bi-polar construct. There's an infinite curve between "male" and "female", and everyone falls somewhere different along that line.
When you throw in all of the other "identities" besides gender (look up "otherkin" and be prepared to WTF all over the place), it starts to become one big identity joke and why there are so many "special snowflakes" out there.
TheRealMouseRat 11y ago
but why not instead of making a million genders, just have two genders, but a lot of leeway in both? (in other words, tear down gender stereotypes)
[deleted] 11y ago
Stop using their bullshit terms as a start. CIS - zzzzzzzzz.
RoseEsque 11y ago
In all honesty: You are not going to make them realize they are hurtful. Heard of gamergate? Well, they are pretty much the child of men having enough of being bullied by feminists. Wherever said gamergate tries to confront feminists in a rational and civilized way (at least from what reaches me which isn't much) they shout of misogyny and male privilege. If you want to read more you can look for places that are either pro or against feminists and read up there (like MRA forums & anything for gameragate, or some feminist forums and against gamergate). If you want me to write to you a bit from a psychological standpoint (psychology&programming student here) I can try to explain how their problem is a self-perpetuating madness of a flawed ideology focused solely on making you feel better (not actually be better).
EDIT: Note: it's definitely better to seek friends who are devoid of ideologies and such. While yes, this being TRP it kinda is about an ideology, but I not fully agree with it. I take it like everything else: through the prism of my mind. It's hard to find people like that. However, it's very much worth it.
[deleted] 11y ago
Sometimes, girls shove pan handles into their pussies and call themselves pansexuals.
[deleted] 11y ago
What the fuck has happened to high school? In 2007-2011, being gay was seen as not the norm/ strange. People would be made fun of and called gay/lesbian. Furthermore, you make it seem that there are so any gay/lesbian/homoromantic people around in your HS that I think most people are faking it so they can have that privileged status of being a special "non-cis" person
burningtimber 11y ago
I'll join the chorus advising you to seek better friends.
In the mean time, don't get in fights with your friends or try to one-up them. Learn amused mastery.
If you really had to respond to a "boys are douches" comment - and you don't - you can be wise ass and say, "Sound like you had a bad experience lately. Want to share?"
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zephyrprime 11y ago
Dude, this shit is for real. This is what a lot of kids are like nowadays - especially the party kids. I know because I've been running in the party circle ever since I've started pua.
EmperorMango 11y ago
Sooooo, how would one, enter this circle??
anonlymouse 11y ago
Diversify your friend circle. Pick up some new hobbies. Assuming you're not poor, So Cal has a good MMA/BJJ scene.
gimmetrp 11y ago
Live is long man, you'll find better friends.
mateodeloso 11y ago
New friends is the first step.
Second step is to a job in field that requires you to bust your ass working long hours with men, (manufacturing, construction, security, maintenance, the oil fields )
It'll give you reference point to understand that the environment you're in is full of mental masturbation.
red_pill_throw_away 11y ago
Am I the only one googling the new orientations mentioned in this post? I didn't even know what these are. Cali has always been a hippie place...
PookIsLovePookIsLife 11y ago
Finding it hard to believe this. What the hell strange high school do you attend that all of your male friends slowly become homo/pansexual?
Cody6781 11y ago
Actually it's mostly girls that turn; and its mostly just the clique I've found myself stuck in. It's like a mixture of tumblrinas and drama people, with a few others like me speckled in there.
ubiety 11y ago
I've lived in California all my life. When I was younger, my classmates didn't give a shit about other-gendered and gay people - they still called each other gay and faggot, most common slur was "that's so gay" - similar to today's "basic bitch". This was the time when "Merry Christmas" was still socially acceptable over happy holidays. Sometime after the turn of the century, it became socially taboo to use gay as a pejorative slur. Then we had prop 8, our gay rights amendment, which surprisingly failed! Ever since it's failure and a few gay related suicides, many prominent gay media personalities have spoken out against bigotry and homophobia. This "change" took maybe 5 years, and it basically caused a 180 shift in popular opinion on gays and lately transsexuals.
Most of the people who support gay rights and to a lesser extent tumblr genderism shit grew up during the change and had no frame of reference beforehand - meaning they feel guilty gays had to endure living in the shadows and being treated as second class citizens, even though a lot of them never participated in the gay bashing in the first place. People my age are by in large bandwagoning hypocrites who I know used to throw out slurs like Halloween candy and have "realized the error in the ways".
To stroke my ego a bit, I never used gay slurs in real life as an insult, because I don't attack people for personal choices, but for their rampant stupidity and lack of logic they expressed. Even when I grew up, it didn't feel right (or smart) to say "that's so gay" because it's an empty statement. It only means "that's socially unacceptable", as with most insults that try to force people to think or behave the "correct" way.
The idiots, your friends, who are preaching tumblr rights are just following the popular opinion train and doing whatever personally benefits them, as one posted says above, to gain a sexual advantage. Very few of these people understand what they're saying, and are jumping on this ship because it's popular and en vogue.
So to answer your question. Find friends who aren't stupid, don't bandwagon on the latest trend, share similar interests and treat you decently in groups of other friends. Also follow TRP basics and talk to more cis-women and build sexual attraction with them. Good luck
loddfavne 11y ago
You sound like you're hopelessly orbiting women who don't have any sexual qualities whatsoever. Sounds like a waste of time. Seek male companionship. For instance there are plenty of sports and other activities that will offer this. Also, when girls agree that men sucks while they're sitting at your table they are disrespecting you. Don't give any respect to those who don't respect you.
The69th 11y ago
What the fuck? There's actually a high school full of guys and girls like this?
[deleted] 11y ago
Woman are destructive and self-centered.
I just told my wife and daughters that my son should not learn how to be a man from anyone except a man. They were shocked, as if they should be the experts on what a man is. Stupid. It never ends.
BluepillProfessor 11y ago
My son told his mom the exact same words almost a year ago. I could barely contain the tears of joy.
SelfMadeMonarch 11y ago
Yep. A shit test I'm coming up against more and more is a gender role test. Women constantly try to define masculinity like it's their prerogative. I just laugh and highlight that if men got to define femininity shit would be a lot different, alas we don't so fuck off.
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Yes, the 'fuck off' route appears to be the best response, although more tactfully with family, because no explanation works or is even needed. It's just a fact a man learns to be a man from a man. Women hate that.
TheKhajiit 11y ago
Fellow senior here. I've been browsing for a while and this sub is the only thing keeping me sane. I live in the northeast and while it isn't nearly as bad, tumblr feminists still run rampant.
Stay strong bud.
Rhunta 11y ago
Power of a man walk away. You dont need them.
beepbeepwow 11y ago
There are almost 50 million people living in California im sure you can find better friends
craigsproof 11y ago
Seriously, this.
The Jim Rohn saying that you're the average of your five closest friends isn't far off the mark.
I had several friends whose friendship I'd had for decades... I'd decided that I wasn't happy with my life, that I needed to improve myself in most areas. These friends were just filled with negativity both on a conscious and an unconscious level. After several times discussing the issue with them, I had to cut them out of my life. It wasn't easy. These were people I loved. Hell, I still love them and wish them the best in their lives, but I realize they can't be a part of my journey anymore.
It was a big change, my whole social life revolved around that group, and there was a lot of social pressure because most people don't get it and just go along to get along and recommend you do the same. I'm still not where I want to be, but I'm making progress, and the last two years have been the best/happiest in a long, long time.
oldredder 11y ago
i remain skeptical of kommie-fornia.
Year_Of_The_Horse_ 11y ago
Don't hang out with these losers. Cut them out of your life this exact minute. Then try out for a sport or learn martial arts, meet some other "cis" boys who aren't brainwashed idiots.
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cascadecombo 11y ago
dont ever use 'cis' again. ita disgusting.
anonlymouse 11y ago
Just don't use it seriously. There's always saying it mockingly.
UGoBoom 11y ago
exactly, OP, when you start using feminist terms seriously, then they've won.
nallalalla 11y ago
I'm pretty sure putting a word in quotes as he did is a universal indication that he is not using it seriously, and is instead indicating that this is the terminology used by these other people, in order to accurately describe the situation he is describing.
But sure, lets all be whiny overreacting cunts because someone said a word.
jimmAo 11y ago
"lets all be whiny overreacting cunts because someone said a word"
Sounds just like feminism.
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cascadecombo 11y ago
To be frank with you, my comment has everything to do with the post. Feminists are about controlling language, changing definitions to fit what they want and when they want it.
I for one will not use these made up terms they assign on whims because someone decided they didn't like the standard term. From that, if OP uses feminists terms he is clearly displaying how much of an effect the feminist culture is having on him, I am telling him to stop playing their game (i.e. using their words).
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Aiadon 11y ago
How did you find those idiots. Confront them directly until they no longer want to be your friends or submit to you. They deserve nothing more, trust me.
SpaghettiPatrolla 11y ago
Who the fuck are you hanging out with?
Str_ 11y ago
Im sorry, but I have nothing to really say other than, lol..California
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WindowToAlaska 11y ago
Can you join a sports team? Or a straight male dominated group?
By the way, do you lift?
Good on u mate for starting at such an early time in ur life.
NiggerJew-944 11y ago
Dude your friends are self-absorbed, attention seeking, narcissists who will never give a fuck about you. It's better that you learn this now and find some friends who you actually have something in common with.
thewrightstuff88 11y ago
girls who say they're pansexual most likely had a whole pan pizza for lunch
predatorian3 11y ago
I generally say they've never had good enough dick. So they just try to justify what they're missing.
oldredder 11y ago
California - leave.
Last time I was there was 1990. I miss what I saw. What I breathed. What I lived.
It's gone. It will never be the same. If I return it would only disappoint me much like visiting an old ex 20 years later only to find out she's a bitch moo-cow, not at all like I remember her, and even then I don't actually think too highly of my ex's.
Run.
Zombiefornia is not for the sensible man of 2014 and beyond.
I remember throwing quarters in the arcade machine just by Santa Cruz beach with the building still somewhat cracked open from the last quake. It was surreal and awesome at my age then.
All gone. Just memories. I'll hold on to them tight because nothing will bring it back. If I went back to Redondo beach today it would be nothing like how I remember it. 1990 is vaporized and now instead of just hot beach babes and surfing it's insane pan-lesbo-multi-what-the-fuxuals everywhere and nonsense.
Run.
RUN. The zombies want to convert you. RUN
unpluggedoasis 11y ago
Didnt know what half those damn words meant in your post. Just read TRP ingrain the knowledge here and dont get dragged into their world. As an up and coming TRP man you will have the knowledge to succeed in a world stacked against you. Also - find new friends.
BlackHeart89 11y ago
I didn't notice an example of them judging you for being straight. All women talk shit about men. Whether they mean it or not. You being straight didn't seem to play a factor.
Nothing to dwell over.
Azothlike 11y ago
I would have zero problem walking right up to said conversation, posturing as if to be bros with gay-bro, and asking queer-chick in the most sincere and annoyed voice,
"Ugh, girls are such douches, why do you even like them?"
And neither should you.
SpongeCroft 11y ago
"come on, let's get out of here. can't stand those fucking faggots."
leave
profit (most of all because you stop hanging around with fuckin' tumblrsexual mentally handicapped... well, faggots.)
like_a_ghost 11y ago
Damn, I'm not going to lie, I had to look up pansexual and homoromantic. That shit is fucking confusing as all hell. Thanks for posting, it's very interesting insight.
I think you did right by standing up for yourself. The most important thing you should do is stick to your guns. Since this is high school we are talking about, I would imagine many of your acquaintances are buying in to the feminism bullshit just so they are part of the norm. Be a leader and example to your peers of an alpha male.
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"Well, that's why I dig chicks." Done.
[deleted] 11y ago
High school is irrelevant and your "friends" label themselves with pseudo sexual orientations to feel special and unique but really they're pathetic.
zephyrprime 11y ago
Shit like this is real. I hang out with a group of young girls I know sometimes and everyone of them is bi or pansexual or lesbian except one. This is a group of about 8 chicks. Only 1 is actually anything other than straight in my opinion. People are just fucking retarded. Look op, you need to be redpilled for real about the bullshit that is modern sexuality among kids.
Kids these days are just trying to be cool and trying to stake out a high social status through their claim on alternative sexualities. Our society is fucked up. Humans are social animals and they just can't resist the urge to try to step on one another to get a leg up on other people in the tribe. With the modern cultural marxist philosophy that is dominant in culture, minority groups have been able to gain advantage by constantly decrying their victimhood. This has logically led to the false adoptation of minority status by members of the majority. By claiming to be demisexual or whatever, you can now claim the special rights of being a minority and being a victim. You can also claim the moral highground by being against traditional conventions. Make no mistake, claiming an alternative sexuality for the large majority of people is nothing more than a ploy to acquire more social status and more social power.
What's particularly devious about a power grabbing gambit like this is that the fakosexual can counterattack any criticism against them by tarring and feathering the attacker as being a bigot. This makes it extremely hard to directly attack these people because you will be labeled as homophobic or whatever.
Wise up! Get it out of your head that these people are honest or legitimate agents and socializing in good faith. They are not. They're liars and game players and selfishly trying to gain social rank at other people's expense. They have already succeeded in controlling your actions and even your thoughts because you are worried about not being "hurtful" while they are opening being hurtful by making bigoted comments against the male gender.
Now you could man up and confront them directly by I'll tell you the truth - nowadays you'd find yourself without any friends because pretty much all the young girls are playing this bullshit game. The only way to really play the fuck out of them is to claim to be bi yourself, make out with some guys at parties to prove your street cred. Then fuck every one of these girls that you can. I understand that this is pretty extreme and you may not want to go this route.
When they start playing their bullshit games on you, you can pull out the orientation card and play that against them. Criticize them for not being sexually liberated and open. Criticize them for not being really bi and actually being lesbians. Agree and amplify the shit out of that. "It's cool. I understand. I think you are probably more lesbian than bi. I think you should explore that more. You should buy some guy clothes since you identify more as male now. Here, you can have some of my old clothes that don't fit me anymore." Then when they fail to follow through with that shit, you can mock them for not knowing who they are and lying about their sexuality (of course, your mocking must be under the radar and not outright. A little goes a long way. Sly as fuck.). Since these girls are claiming alternative sexualities, criticizing them for not being sexually adventurous is an extremely powerful attack that uses the enemy's strength against them. Then seduce them with your emotion provoking stories of sex and being with that magical right person.
Game on brother. Game on.
dnlslm9 11y ago
Wow, so South Park wasn't kidding. That must be confusing as hell. In my HS experience I was judged for not being macho enough and not getting girls. This was class of '10.
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bsutansalt 11y ago
Toxic is exactly the right word to describe people like that. I've seen firsthand the kind of damage that line of thinking does to people and their relationships.
mykonos_rm 11y ago
"I am an 18 yo straight/"cis" male"
I stopped reading right there. You want to confront this issue, start treating normal as the "default" instead of labeling it.
[deleted] 11y ago
Quit associating with these degenerates
bobolino59 11y ago
I'm going to try to be helpful unlike the people who told you DUH find better friends.
Ok I was born in a family that was HEAVILY FEMINIST and pro gay, trans, the more degenerate the better accepted you would be by my mom and my gazillion sisters (only 6 really).
My mom would go to marches with scissors which she would brandish in the air and scream about cutting men's balls off. That kind of feminist. I was raised by her and I tough she was GOD as a child and she was pretty smart tbh, IQ like 165 so I was giant walking blue pill white knight.
Now why did I vomit a full paragraph of text about my mommy issues? Well you can change your friends but NOT your family.
Overtime, like any person with the short end of the stick, I came to the realization I was holding it!
So I had to learn to live with people who viewed my reformed worldview (right wing, conservative and traditional on women's role) as barely better than Hitler (They staged an intervention).
The way to deal with it I found is
A) vary your circle of contacts and friends, make room for people who view the world like you do and invite them over >D
B) When something like this comes up make it a (gentle) teachable moment in this case >> I feel attacked when you say stuff like that, I can't go on saying that girls are douches and pointing at people, why is it ok for you but nor for me? << cue puppy eyes
C) Accept that the world is a rich and varied place with many differing views and that some of them will be offensive to you, that's no reason not to enjoy life to the fullest.
Hope this helps.
jerrytheman1998 11y ago
Wtf? Is this a troll? Just leave that group of assholes
[deleted] 11y ago
There's nothing better than a woman who wanted to and did mistreat me. It allowed me to really release and go the full distance in bed.
Sadly, this almost never happened to me because I'd treat them like trash right off, so they'd immediately try to please me.
How luck you are. If I were you, I'd go back to these fuckups, treat them as old money would, and fuck those posers straight. Hell, if I could get it up to dudes, I'd make colostomy bags their new found friends too. To each his own.