I'm not a religious guy, but I do like the type of women that religion can produce. If you're a younger guy, say, pre-30s, lots of these women are still in that "Sex and the City" mentality where they are really whiny, demanding, and not wanting to do their part in relationships because patriarchy.
I'm tired of hearing women spout their tired and debunked ideas on dates. I honestly hate talking about gender politics in general, especially on dates, so that makes it especially awkward and unpleasant for me.
I just want someone who's fun and doesn't act like she deserves the whole world from me and will appreciate when I do contribute to the relationship. I'm still aware of my role and importance as a man in the relationship, I just am tired of women acting like they can eschew their responsibilities in the name of feminism while clinging to the things that benefit them.
I mean, sometimes I think that redpilling a moderate girl might be my only choice sometimes. But all I've been doing lately is just accumulating a bunch of plates. What's a guy to do when he wants something more serious?
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Religious women do not have higher morals than non-religious ones. If they do something shitty they'll hamster it away, regardless of belief. "God forgives" "taking it in the ass doesn't count" etc. Just my anecdotal opinion.
svogliate 11y ago
Go anywhere you like to be.
Why the fuck would you go anywhere else anyway?
SenorPuff 11y ago
The caveat here, that needs to be clarified for some: You need to enjoy being places that you will actually meet women and be social. This isn't license for you to sit on your ass and play world of warcraft because it's 'where you like to be.'
Go out, try new things and find ones you like. If you enjoy the activity, you're more likely to keep doing it. You'll increase your chances of meeting girls by doing things regularly. You'll also come across as a guy who knows what he wants. Take the time to engage the other people that also enjoy that activity, even the girls you aren't interested in romantically. You set yourself up for success by being known in the circle. You want to be that guy who, when a new girl comes in, and you hit her up, everyone in the room loves you.
JudgeRedPill 11y ago
Damn, that's a good point. I almost would take this down, but I think people should see this comment.
svogliate 11y ago
I didn't mean to offend. I think there's a very deep truth to what I said, it took me decades to catch on to it. I never had any success with women by making a huge production of going where they were supposed to be, places I would never have gone for my own enjoyment; I always did fine in places where I was enjoying myself.
JudgeRedPill 11y ago
No offense taken. You brought up a good point.
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draketton 11y ago
If you decide to try to red pill a girl, 2 things to keep in mind:
Younger = less time to become entitled and jaded = better. cut close to your area's aoc.
You have to have a "seeking commitment" frame from the start of the relationship, so none of your current or ex plates are viable options.
slcjosh 11y ago
Wherever you want man. They don't determine shit. If they are there they are there.
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Bro if you're talking about anything but bullshit on first dates you're doing it wrong. Why aren't YOU setting the conversation? Twist that bitch into your frame.
"Red pilling"? What the fuck is that? Define for glossary, please.
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"Where is the best place?" is like asking, "Where is a place that can make me feel more comfortable and secure and have better chances?"
You gotta have the dirt if you want the gold.
You have to endure the uncertainty if you want the thrill.
Make anywhere a good place for a pickup. Pick a place that's notoriously difficult for picking up women and set yourself a challenge. There is no silver bullet, but if you go out and take shots in many places, you're way more likely to hit your target than the guy who spends 70% of his time scoping out places to maybe possibly take a shot.
Lt_Muffintoes 11y ago
Religious people make terrible parents. Since religions are false, they must lie to their kids, and punish them when they question the faith. If you, as a rational person, try to talk honestly with your children, the religious parent will attack you for it.
Dillett7799 11y ago
Now I'm not a religious person, but still very spiritual. It's hard to not jog up the hill Down the road from my house, stand atop and look down at the beautiful lake surrounded by trees covered in several colors of fall leaves and not think of a power that our race can't comprehend. Nor do I hope that we ever do. Life's a journey. You can call it what you want, just don't be offended when I think it's ridiculous you don't eat fish on Fridays or whatever bullshit.
Lt_Muffintoes 11y ago
Right, but you wouldn't threaten your kids with eternal hellfire if they questioned why you believe what you do, would you?
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markasstrick123 11y ago
the reality is that this is just evolution taking it's course. If it isn't confirmed by science or biology, it's not real. Believing in a religion is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny. Tough pill to swallow and I understand why most people reject it (cos feeeeeelings).
Trujillo_Caudillo 11y ago
What an utter load of horseshit. You could just as easily make the argument that non religious parents are the worst because without the guiding influences of religion they're more likely to raise their sons to be effeminate and their daughters into "sexually empowered" sluts.
2014 "Religion is non rational" Bro do you even read Aquinas
newmewuser 11y ago
You are wrong. Being religious, taking that very seriously and without questioning just means being irrational. It is quite obvious that being rational beats being irrational. Even more if you have to punish your kids for not being irrational like you, no surprise if they will grow to hate you.
Lt_Muffintoes 11y ago
Rebutt the argument, or say nothing. Do you, or do you not have to lie to kids to make them believe?
SenorPuff 11y ago
You don't have to relegate to faith that which can be adequately described by reality. Religion can be a tool by which those who reject the notion of societal norms are convinced to act properly.
Religions by definition have 3 parts: beliefs, cultural systems and worldviews. The beliefs generally form the basis for the cultural norms and worldview, but it would be a 'fallacy fallacy' to say that because they are based on faulty premises, they are necessarily false.
It matters very little for our purposes whether or not someone believes in a deity. What matters is how they act. Religions tend to promote more viable societies than humanistic belief systems. Women raised in religious circles tend to have much better attitudes for relationships, mating, and creating families than those who do not, which is ultimately a desirable quality regardless of their beliefs.
Jessie_James 11y ago
Frankly, if a woman brings up an unpleasant topic on a date, I take it as a red flag assuming I am looking for an LTR.
Other concepts: If she talks about her ex boyfriend, pulls out her phone, tries to order something expensive, hits on the waiter or someone else at the venue, or any number of other BS moves, I end the date.
Have some standards, don't waste time with women who don't meet them, and you'll be a lot happier.
For the record, most women I meet are when I am out and about. At the mall, getting coffee, at the grocery store. Learn your day game and approach!