From 3rd world country here, there a lot of cases in my country where the woman expect the man to provide her, accommodate her, buy her a lot of things, only to found out the man doesn't receive any good treat from the woman, even the woman often lash out and belittle the man, but once the man had enough and decided to confront them, suddenly the woman flip the script like she was the victim. Many men once reached this phase, they decided to cut her off, leaving the man with bad reputation due to the woman were already way steps ahead of him and told her and his friends like she was the victim and the man was the bad guy even though she was the first one that made the conflict.
Been on this redpill forum since mid 2020, a lot of users gave advice to the young man to not marry in this era. The more I grew older, the more I get the perspective and agree a lot more (i'm 25 this year), also the divorce rate in my country is way way higher than ever before. Also recently a lot of cases in my country where the man had enough and did a physical abuse to the woman. In a case, the man received a sentence for 12 years, and the woman has been hospitalized while receiving support, but in this scenario, the man had already shared the chronology to his social media (Tiktok) prior to attack hoping that it will go viral after the incident, so the public knew how bad she was and why the man decided to attack her physically. And yes, it did go viral after the incident. Before the public knew the chronology, there were a lot of framing and accusations that made the guy was the bad guy, but luckily now it flipped, even though the man now is in jail. Also adding some context to this scenario, the girl already had boyfriend but she was cheating to this man whom later attacked her, after the incident, her boyfriend broke up with her, and the other man whom she cheated on got sentenced.
I knew a lot of men out there who were a victim of a manipulative woman (i.e. divorced then became homeless due to the assets distribution, being slendered, being scapegoated, wrong accusations, etc), and I just can't imagine what will it be if I were the man that was being manipulated. Last time I was in a relationship, the girl was so self entitled and manipulative, want me to do x y z to her, but I knew this just her attempt to test me how compliance I was. Luckily since I knew this test, I didn't really follow her saying or get manipulated by her, and just did what I want, yet she tried to frame me as the bad guy of how stubborn I was and hard to compromise, even her friends agreeing her framing towards me. Contrary to what this sub saying, in my opinion, there were a diminishing returns where I was being tested again and again without her respecting me afterwards (I already did agree/amplify, amused mastery, ignore, etc), and I had enough of it. Once I had enough and I didn't think she lessen her test (too much test), I cut her off completely without even hoping her to chase me (of course that would be me being desperate if I were hoping her like that, just goes on with my life afterwards).
I think nowadays it's best just to be a side man, where you just close to a girl for some period, then move to the next girl without giving her any real commitment, only there for fun. A lot of girls are fun and kind when they meet me at the first time, but after some times, if I see diminishing return before they breed familiarity and contempt toward me, I move to the next new girl immediately, the novelty effect plays a role in here. I don't do plate like this sub says due to having less resources (time and money) just 1 girl at a time, but once I decided to end, I move to the next girl. Even a lot of my girl friends who already have boyfriends, when their boyfriends are afar, they sometimes invite me to go to a "date" where the man doesn't even acknowledge it. Marriage nowadays are scam, just some shitty power play that place the convenience to the woman side.
For context, I'm 25, fit body, not too focusing on bodybuilding rn, my goal is to just have some lean toned body and I'm keeping it that way without solely be autistic increasing my muscle mass. I don't even spend so much time at the gym anymore, just do some bodyweight workout in my home compared to 4 years before where I focus too much on bodybuilding and I spend about 1.5 hours at the gym. In my experience, as long as I'm lean, where I have low body fat, exposing chiseled jawline and cheekbones, women go crazy for my attention, so I just like to keep it that way, also my cardiovascular is much much better compared to years ago after I add cardio program, with vo2 max metrics of 44, not really high but in a healthy range.

GeorgeIII 1mo ago
Brother, it sounds like you are near the end of the rage phase of red pill. I sometimes get flashes of it myself. I promise it will get better.
You already have the right idea. Guard your commitment jealously, and don’t just hand it out. It’s your most important bargaining chip.
In the meantime, practice vetting women and holding frame. Carry on.
Ronaldraygun77 1mo ago
Vetting alone doesn’t work. Women will pretend to be whatever you want if they really want your commitment. Use boundary enforcement instead. If she responds like a good girl, cool. If you or her fuck up, find another one.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
I mean, if you conduct your vetting by asking her questions like a fucking retard instead of just observing her behavior, sure.
Plus what Vermy said.
Ronaldraygun77 1mo ago
Here’s what’s worked for me: vetting via observing behavior, getting them comfortable and telling crazy stories (they will spill their life to you. Some will even exaggerate/make stuff up to fit in. Self-calibration is vital here) and seeing who follows my boundaries without much pushback. Has worked pretty well for me, if there’s an even better way I’m all ears
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Vetting is forever. If you have an intimate association to a woman you will be vetting her till the day you die
Intelligent-Sir-6319 1mo ago
Thats exactly one of my main point. Not only your commitment, any things that she wants from u. She will try to pretend to be flirty, care, feminine, anything that trad women possess to allure you, then after they dont get what they expect, they will 180 turn her attitude and frame you as the problem, at least the pattern that I recognized from all of my experiences.