So recently i have dealt with a situation that was a bit confusing to me.
Went on a date with a woman I met at an art gallery event to a rooftop patio for drinks.
Date went the standard way -> drinks, flirtation, escalated as we were leaving bar and ended up making out/fooling around in the elevator as well as to a park we went nearby.
I end the date because i had to go to another thing i had to do that night.
She texts me back saying she had a nice time, we chat a bit and set up another date in a few days.
Morning of the date she hits me up with standard BS excuse.
I say i understand things happen outside our control and leave it there.
She proceeds to double text later that night apologizing and asking to reschedule.
I entertain the conversation but dont ask for another meet up. She proceeds to text all the niceties and BS a woman would stating that the she missed me (weird after one date?) and asking me when I am leaving for my work trip
She asks when I am free to which I give a vague response. She pushes me harder for a response and I give her a day.
We text a few more days setting up the date and 2 days before the date she ghosts. I leave it there.
Obviously I am a bit confused as to why she would pursue so hard only to flake both times.
My thoughts: I should have close the night of the date, or asked her to simply come over instead of setting up another date (at no point had she mentioned she wanted a relationship). Guessing the second date set up gave too much boyfriend vibes?
In the unlikely scenario she reaches out I think my response would be something along the lines: "This date thing isn't working so well for us haha, just come over and bring something nice".
Thoughts >?
MrSupreme 3h ago
I mean, if after flaking/ghosting she calls apologizing and wants another date, and you're unfazed and still trying to smash that one, then this is the best approach. Lower the interest and investment (and expectations). Ask her to come over, if and when she shows up then make sure you're not ready, make her wait while you shower and get dressed to go.
But after that second ghost then surely you're not thinking of answering her texts or anything, right?
Find another girl to date.
mattyanon Admin 1d ago
Ok, good
Good plan - don't be too easy on rescheduling.
Who the fuck cares, she's a flake and she can fuck off.
My thoughts: she's female, don't take anything they say or do too seriously, they are not rational creatures.
Doubt it.
Look..... she's too flakey for you, so it doesn't matter the reasons why. You played it like you have abundance. Fix this with abundance.
dirtymikeandtheboyz 1d ago
Im trying to improve my close rates with 8, and 9s so this is why I am curious if I made any missteps here.
mattyanon Admin 19h ago
nah, I think you called this one right.
dirtymikeandtheboyz 4h ago
i think maybe i came off as too eager when scheduling the second date. Maybe a less prime time slot would have been better and a bit less communication
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1h ago
Sometimes you can do everything right and the woman still torpedoes things. Just look at marriages and divorces. At least she torpedoed this before you were actually invested.
Never forget that women are also humans who make their own (usually stupid) decisions. They aren't machines.
AbusiveFather1 1d ago
here is your mistake: you're trying to make it work (#mattyanon). she flaked on you, and you have no self-respect nor the options to next her as you should, and are thinking up convoluted scenarios where you end up smashing her - which isn't going to happen because she thinks/knows she has better options than you, which of course she's never going to tell you because she's a ruthless pragmatist and good sportsmanship is a foreign concept to her. she will try to keep you on the hook with the minimum amount of effort (which she has done successfully), on the off-chance that her better options fall through.
dirtymikeandtheboyz 1d ago
i just dont get why someone would waste their own time like that... she would send a ton of texts.... that's time consuming/energy draining in my opinion.
And honestly I don't think she can do better than me, I would consider myself higher status than her by a fairly wide margin.
AbusiveFather1 1d ago
she's not wasting time, she's generating leads. she's a salesman.
just part of any veteran salesman's routine - the grind.
never underestimate a modern woman's delusion. consider: tinder, instagram.
AbusiveFather1 1d ago
Also, you really have to internalise the meaning of “infinite options”. It’s not a joke or hyperbole when we say that an average modern plain Jane has more options than prime Brad Pitt - we’re dead serious.
dirtymikeandtheboyz 1d ago
yes and no, i would say a large amount of them are complete crap options, like sanjit form uber eats asking to see some "vageen". I went through my girlfriends(just a friend) bumble and im not going to lie the guys side was a complete dumpster fire.... like 1 out of 40 were swipable maybe. She had a ludicrous amount of likes but 90% were undesirables.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 14h ago
Bear in mind that match supply for women renews exponentially faster than it ever would for men too.
Well, right up until The Wall, that is.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
Please post these in the correct forum
cundardunfinished 1d ago
It happens. For reschedules better not to waste too much time. My order of operations is something like
I don't see the point in being vague or entertaining a conversation or whatever, that just means you wasted more time with someone already prone to flaking.
I would also add there should be a legitimate reason for the reschedule. If she's just tired or something that's lame and shows low interest, probably not worth meeting at all. My order of operations is based on indications of low interest which to me mean any date you score will be a waste of time anyway, so use your own judgment. You can tell if a woman is legitimately disappointed and wants to reschedule asap
dirtymikeandtheboyz 1d ago
all my dates are convenient for me since I live in a downtown core so nothing is a long walk for me. But yeh unfortunately this fucked up my thursday night time slot.
But i think youre right i didnt vet the reasoning well enough should have prodded a bit more into why she rescheduled (she said her period came)
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