Up to you how you use TRP and by extension the community attached to it.

As addressed in one of my stickied posts, TRP has a lot of misinterpreted and misconstrued principles.

It's not a woman-bitter site. A lot of men see the light and are justifiably angry at how they've been treated by women before.

You have a point. If you had found a girlfriend and were happy, I doubt you would have found us. At the same time, what about if you had found one and she left you, cheated on you, lied to you, sex-dripped you, etc. You'd be right here on this forum justifiably angry.

The fallacy you're entertaining is that had you found what you wanted you'd get to keep what you had. Maybe you would have. Maybe you would not have.

TRP is a toolkit. A lot of people use it to express the rightful anger of a society that has mislead them into a belief system that specifically makes it difficult to achieve things like finding a girlfriend because of the sheer mis-guidance of helping men understand the world.

TRP is not for everyone. You have to look past the users who are still in anger phases or have to express period vents about the world shitting on them.

Obviously this is not supposed to be a pitch to keep you on the platform. But rather, I implore you to remember what you learned in your two years of TRP awareness for when that perfect phone that you find that does everything you ever wanted stops working on you out of nowhere despite doing everything "the right way" and there is no way to developer mode it. Remember what you have learned here when that happens.

At some point your ideals will clash with reality.

Is TRP correct when read literally, as many newbies make the mistake of doing? Hell no. TRP has a nuanced interpretation, with exceptions, circumstantial contexts, unforseen scenarios, random variance.

TRP (I did not found it) I suspect was written to the point and "literally" because it was a short-handed format that was suppose to be inferenced to nuance it applied to. I don't believe TRP was ever intended to be a sperg-fest of literal, copy and paste interpretation in all scenarios such as every girl is gonna immediately go AWALT and lie to you the second she meets a Chad at the club.

I do want to leave my final thought thanking you for whatever contribution you may have made to community (I have no idea what your previous posts/comments are if any).

Thank you for at least giving TRP a shot at being something you absorb. It's one more man out there that has some semblance of an idea of how the world works.

Don't be afraid to challenge the views you read on an anonymous forum, but at the same time I implore you to not forget that this world is full of misleading feel-good platitudes that have also misguided men and will continue to do so long after you leave here.

Find a balance that suits your personal goals, moral compass and belief systems that make you satisfied and content in your experience on this earth.

Thank you for your candid post. Farewell, I wish you well on your endeavors.

-VRx

Best post ever. If you can walk away from this you can walk away from anything. You'll never truly become a man until you can accept the truth. This is a support group. We're keeping men from eating bullets. Enjoy your life while it lasts and maybe save a life along the way. Rollo started all this because of male suicide. The best outcome is to see men leave and never come back. It means it worked and you're off living a good life you enjoy. That's rule zero of red pill. We're always here if you come back but please don't come back, that means we fucked up.

I just watched a movie called "Don't Worry Darling" and in it, the whole thrust of it was women who rebel against a paradise where they love their husbands and care for them.

That is what you're fighting, and whether you like it or not, that is the battle to be had.

You can leave, you can say whatever words you want -- but in the end, ignoring how women maneuver these things will not end well.

I used to be a guy that just "went along" and did what I thought pleased others. And it didn't work out well, and I'm glad I woke up, finally. Sure, you want a girl who has your back, who gives a shit -- we all do.

But you also have to acknowledge the field that you are playing in. And it isn't full of daisies and a picturesque blue sky with fluffy clouds. We're in a phase of society that denigrates men, makes regular men/women roles some kind of crime, and it is categorically insane.

When its all said and done, you don't want to quit this -- you just want to quit the current reality -- and I don't blame you, but it isn't realistic in the slightest.

Good luck.

Maybe the world really is evil and messed up. Maybe women are evil creatures who will hypergamy and walk over you. maybe you will get fucked. But I think I would rather hedge my bet searching for a unicorn than it would constantly being bitter about women.

You'll get exposed to a lot of bitterness, negativity, and pessimism in the redpillosphere, no doubt about that. That's because guys are in various stages of unplugging, with varying amounts of success. Some never get past it. It is what it is. Seeing the pitfalls is part of it, but so is seeing the opportunities.

'Hypergamy' is a perfect example of a concept that is both a pitfall, and an opportunity. You can spin it both ways, as a negative or a positive. And whichever way you spin it has more to do with your own mental state, than any objective truth. You always have a choice of which angle you take. In my life, I choose to see hypergamy as a positive. Hypergamy keeps me sharp, and it's part of the reason I have a good marriage (so far).

If a man operates from the notion that women are "evil" and "bad", then of course he'd want to set out on a hopeless search for a "unicorn". That is the natural solution within that script. But if a man operates from the notion that women are just women, and that he has agency in shaping what his relationships to women are going to look like, then AWALT is perfectly fine, and there's no need for unicorns.

As for people being inherently "bad", that's a mind disease that goes way beyond TRP. It's no wonder people take that attitude, because that's what we're being bombarded with from all angles. On one side, you've got religion telling you you're inherently sinful, and must repent for what you are. On the other side, you have scientism and thought-fashion telling you you're like a virus on the planet, and that the world would be better of without you. Either way, it's expected of you to have a negative view on human beings (and by extension, yourself).

It's all a bunch of horseshit, posturing and fashion, though. Obviously, human beings are inherently more good than bad. If a biologist observed humans by the same criteria we observe other species, you'd say we're peaceful, non-violent, somewhat altruistic creatures. Most of the stuff most people do during a random week will be ethically/morally neutral, with a bit more "good" than "bad" sprinkled in. And when people do evil shit, we remember and talk about it for centuries after, because it shocks our shared experience to the core. So clearly, we are pretty "good" - we have a clear and obvious bias in favour of "goodness" (however you'd define that).

I get why you want to leave the space. If you feel you need that, it's probably a good thing. Personally though, I think a part of the red pill journey is to break through all that negativity and pessimism - not by running away from it, but by having frame. I'd say maintaining a positive outlook whilst in the space is a good exercise in frame.

Also, I'd like to add, this place in particular, this forum + TRP.RED, isn't particularly pessimistic compared to a lot of other platforms. The quality is pretty good here, and increasingly getting better with time.

Not trying to convince you to stay though. Sometimes you have to walk away from something to put your own spin on it, and to fit the pieces of the entire puzzle of what you are. I just want to be really clear about the difference between the red pill and the black pill.

thanks for your post - its good to see a proper variety of opinions, to prevent this becoming like an echo chamber, like reddit. In fact, we should have a channel which is just for TRP criticism.

There's lots of things that I agree with you on. For example (you didn't mention it), the central hypocrisy of TRP = women are trash because they have been ran through, lets learn game so we can run through lots of sluts. It just doesn't make any sense. And nobody seems to want to talk about that.

Also - the very accusation that women are 'hypergamous' makes no sense. Everyone wants the best they can get for themselves, regardless of others needs. The very same dude that is whining about women being 'hypergamous' will then (in the same post) display that very same tendency by saying that he rejected some ordinary looking chick to go after a 'hot looking baddie'. Men want to get the best that they can, just as women do.

A third point I would like to put forward (this one is controversial) ...there is no such thing as 'evil'. Stop trying to characterise women as evil, or anyone for that matter. People are selfish, stupid, vain, narcissistic. But evil doesn't exist. If you keep believing in the concept of evil, you will never be able to understand the motivations of other people. You'll never be able to gauge pathological selfishness or sadism, because you will write it off as 'evil'. People who don't understand this principle, will never understand how the situation is key to determining behaviour. Most people will never let to of the concept of evil. I know these people. They will instantly respond 'but what about Hitler? are you saying he's not evil?" No, he was mentally ill, a drug addicted loser. And the 'situation' was very important - there were millions of germans that had lost their jobs and they were afraid. they lived in a time of waring cultural identities. Goebells himself said 'When the people are afraid, you can do anything'. A fearful population with a mentally ill leader...lots can happen. But I digress.

BUT.....

There is still a lot of value to TRP. So long as you dont' draw the conclusion that its best to 'lay down and rot'.

Wanted to edit some of your questions, in TRP theme

The only real questions that ultimately matters is this,

Do you trust her, with your darkest fears   (disagree,  don't share your darkest fears with her.  she doesn't want to know them)

Does she make you happy  (disagree.  No one can make you happy, that's up to you.  Does she add value to your life, you enjoy your time with her is a much better way of viewing it).

Do you see a future with her   (Does she share the same life goals,  lifestyle that you want/envision).