A long time ago my ex gf cheated on me. I was blue pilled and ignorant of her issues. I remember this one time going om her social media and looking at the guys who like her pictures..this one guy stood out. He was very good looking. That was the guy she ended up cheating on me with. I remember at the time how awful and inadequate I felt.
I'm over it - was a long time ago but what I find is when I'm dating and getting serious with a girl (not just a plate) I have this paranoia. For example right now this one girl I'm dating and potential LTR she has a guy friend who she has known for years and he is a chad ..she said they've never had a relationship or done anything "he's just a friend" but uhh I mean it's like every girl has access to a chad? It makes me so paranoid
millionairegymrat 2y ago
Did she literally say the phrase, "he's just a friend"?
No wonder you're on this forum.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
righttttttttttttt
they're all "just a friend" until they're not.
oh yes, and it's worse on Tinder than on facebook
Stay paranoid. Women have demonstrated that they can't be trusted, so don't trust them.
I am sorry that this means your blue pill dream of "happily ever after" has to die.
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No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Come to realize this:
It doesn't matter if he is an Alpha Adam or a Beta Billy. When the chick's ready to bail, she's going to bail. Whether he's an 8, 9, 10, or a 4, 5, 6, if she's checked out, it doesn't matter what the dude is like, if it's branch, she'll swing to it.
But also keep this in mind: Adam's been eating your sloppy seconds, kek kek kek.
shaketheroom 2y ago
This might go against your standard redpill advice, but im usually Chad in this scenario. Ive had ex's that didnt want me back, and some that did. The ex's that didnt want me back usually had a respectable "boyfriend" they didnt want to leave for me, the unstable fuckboy.
If you honestly want to fight off Chad's in a LTR, your best defense is to become a very quality Boyfriend. Like I dont mean be this provider sugar daddy or anything. I mean things like:
And then obviously overall things like not being needy, jealous, have your own life. Etc.
Its the only thing that will make a girl think twice about sucking off Chad behind your back. Remmeber girls wants LTR's. If she has one, and youre damn good at it, that is VALUABLE. Even if you are not as ripped as Chad at the bar. Losing a quality LTR is a fucking nightmare for girls, its the same fear we have of losing a bad bitch.
Girls who cheat usually the guy is not a quality BOYFRIEND or has diminishing SMV via showing weakness, laziness, getting fatter, jealousy.
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shaketheroom 2y ago
Well good question. Its how I lost my ex, she was a good woman and I wasnt really ready for her, so I kind of strung her along with minimum effort and i can realize its what broke the LTR. When we were plates she was fine with how she was treated but when we went official she did want more "boyfriend benefits". I saw first hand how the new guy was way lower SMV than me but he gave her a real LTR and that was good enough for her to stay with him despite me being higher SMV.
So yeah basically its hard to find but if youre really putting yourself out there you will eventually find yourself in a situation where you dont view her as another plate and essentially dont want to lose her like another plate, so you consider the LTR, just know when that happens you gotta put in the effort, at least in the beginning and you can kinda dial it back after respectively.
I have lots of Chad friends with high quality girls in LTR and this is how they do/did it. The truth is in the real world a lot of Chads are in relationships, its just here in TRP where we think all Chads are single and only guys who do LTR are betas.
Adeptintact1 2y ago
Nah alot of what you said is beta and will scare her off even more.
shaketheroom 2y ago
You need to be realistic. This is the type of stuff you do with an official LTR. If you expect you can just take her to chicken wings once a week and invite her over for Netflix only, she will start shit-testing. If this is the entire relationship right here, she will lose attraction and cheat on you with Chad. Because you are showing her you are a low value male that doesnt lead an exciting life. This is NPC Dating or the blueprint of a guy trying to fuck her as a secret plate. This is where Chad comes in, she hears about his exciting vacations and huge social circle. Then she will compare his lifestyle to yours- the one where you guys watch netflix and fuck and then you take her back the next morning, rinse repeat.
Tell me whats beta in what I actually wrote? I dont think you have any real life dating experience. I have lots of Chad friends and hot friends who are girls. I have noticed what keeps them around, what makes them question their LTR, it gives them insecurity that theyre being used or played. You can only fool a girl for so long...then shes gone when she has someone who takes her on dates and shit.
Everything I said above is about making her invest. Its a lot easier for a girl to leave someone who does the bare minimum like a netflix sleepover all the time. Its a lot harder for her to leave a guy that her mom really likes, that knows all her friends, he already has the seal of approval. If she cheats then word will go around and her family will find out, do you understand?
You think you can date a quality girl seriously and not buy her anything for a Christmas gift lmao? Do you think shes going to stay with you if her sister and mom gets a bad vibe from you, remember girls want the approval of their friends and family. If you never meet her family and youve been dating a while shes not serious about you and was gonna cheat anyways. If you never met them she would question if this was even a real LTR, "Im giving him consistent sex and receiving no LTR benefits" is what dreads women to shit test and eventually leave.
When a girl is in a LTR, she wants BOYFRIEND TREATMENT from you, they pay attention to the "special benefits" you provide by being exclusive. You cant continue spinning her like a plate. What i listed above are the type of behavior she is paying attention to, when evaluating you and the LTR Value you bring to her life.
You do all this while still being alpha: dont say I love you first, dont show weakness, stay ripped and on your purpose, fuck her dominantly, etc. Dont confuse a LTR with being beta, because its a LTR.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
You're on the right track, though some of your terminology is off.
You and @Adeptintact1 are both falling into that trap of using "alpha" to mean "good" and "beta" to mean "bad". The terms are better used like this: alpha = attraction/arousal (what gets her pussy wet), and beta = comfort (what makes her want to stick around). Beta behaviors need to be earned, which is why they're repellant to women early on, but necessary in an LTR.
A) dread usually gets a woman to act right. She needs to know that you can replace her.
B) That would be a comfort test in that scenario, not a shit test. Shit tests are when she's attracted to you, but doubts that attraction (innate skepticism bias). Rian Stone goes into this a lot in his YouTube channel, and I highly recommend it.
Anyway, the dudes who were downvoting your original reply were idiots. You had some good info in there.
Additionally, OP @LARamz - just enjoy your turn until it's over, whether on her terms or yours. Constant worry over something that may never happen at all serves no purpose other than to rob you of the joy of the moment. Also, if you're her hypergamous best option and she's smart enough to realize it, she won't throw away what the two of you have (assuming that she isn't a slut that's unable to keep her legs together).
shaketheroom 2y ago
A) I didnt mean "dread" in the classic sense of TRP terminology as in making her jealous and compete with other suitors (preselection). It was used in its more original sense, that it will bring her serious emotional discomfort contemplating what to do - that may involve her talking to her friends about the situation and opening up the door to the first steps of breaking up. Basically its equivalent to thinking a girl is using a man for money for example, it will make us doubt things. She wants something "real" in this LTR
B) Yeah so after feeling the emotional discomfort she will need reassurance via comfort tests to feel more secure. But your words will only have so much power for so long. If your actions dont eventually line up, the emotional discomfort will appear again, keep her up at night. Eventually she will need to see that you really care about her, she will need to see effort in this case. Girls are really good at paying attention to actions vs words when it comes to romance. And Its not a shit test. I found a little effort goes a long way in LTR's and girls usually appreciate it.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
You're on the right track. Ignore the retards who are downvoting us.