Fuck man, I'm starting to get fucking pissed again and not want anything to do with women.
Short background information: Went from blue-pilled skinny soy teenager with 0 game to a Chadlite athlete w/ fitness model physique and game. I started pulling hot girls hb7s with the occasional hb8s and enjoyed my success but now I'm starting to get bitter again.
I'm a 20yo university student and fuck man, the girls that are equal to my SMV will never be loyal in this environment. You think your game is good? These bitches act like the most innocent naive girl and do everything you want but they're like that for everyone they're into and have 0 hesitancy to use you like a doormat the second you slip up. That's not even why I'm mad, I've just seen some of my more naturally "alpha" friends who have very bluepilled self-righteous thinking get completely fucked over by tbh even girls that I would've thought were above the rest.
One night I was just having light banter with one of my friend's friend and his girl, not even trying to do anything and I find out my whole friend circle is pissed at me for "profusely hitting on his girl". What the fuck? You want me to show you what hitting on your girl is? Fucking soyboy was probably just intimidated by me but it's pissing me off because I genuinely didn't say shit nor was I trying to, what I can't make a fucking joke just because some soyboy's girl is there? Man these are childhood friends too that I've known for 10 years and they're actually taking the guys side, even the ones that weren't there.
I guess I'm more mythed about the whole friends situation. I can't believe we've known each other for so long and they won't take my side. What's even the fucking point of this, I carry myself respectively and get treated like a fucking villain. Maybe I should just be one. Fucker thinks I was hitting on his girl and if they weren't friends with my boys I'd fucking show him what his girl really thinks of him.
RiggzHatesYou 1y ago
...god damn it
gio00 1y ago
Wow It's very cool.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
You should just fuck his girlfriend, and then play it off as "Bros Before Hoes" or some shit.
Peter_Henderson 1y ago
It's because they don't respect you. If they respected you, they wouldn't have thrown you under the bus due to such a tiny infraction.
You probably lost their respect 1-2 years ago but haven't "caught notice" of the writing on the wall.
kv2_0833 1y ago
Maybe you're right. I have changed a lot in a year, I will admit my ego has grown and I'm a bit more of a douchebag. But I'll be honest, I would kill to not go back to who I was. I was a depressed skinny fuck with no bitches and now I've only been going up thanks to trp and the gym. Maybe I should be more humble but I'm not too sure, I don't want to lose what's been working
Peter_Henderson 1y ago
I have no way of knowing if you're disrespecting me by just pretending to agree with me -- nor do I have any way of knowing that your story in the OP is 100% real/truthful. Normally I'd just bullshit you with advice that is "bad advice" but which "seems true" and/or "seems like good advice to you" but I won't today (since I'm feeling charitable). Here is how you win respect back from your bluepill male friends:
Einsamer 1y ago
You are not angry for your friends situation, you are angry because you feel treated unfair. When you apply RP for a longer time, your character changes and it shows.
In the same way we tell people to not be angry at women but instead accept relaity and work on themselves, it's the same thing here. It was your fault. You did not understand the social setting well enough and what impact you would have on others and how they perceive you. It does not matter what your intentions are. Next time, keep that in mind and try to actively avoid giving off such a vibe. This can even mean to behave fully bluepilled if the context requires it.
kv2_0833 1y ago
I mean I see what you're saying here but I just met them and was having what I thought was a normal conversation. There were no signs or cues at all during that I was making him uncomfortable and other people were pretty into me. Tbh I actually thought the guy was pretty cool until he decided to talk shit about me to my friends instead of checking me or even talking to me aside. I had 0 idea and I really don't think I crossed any lines.
Einsamer 1y ago
You say that, but look what you wrote:
You say that there have been no signs or cues. But there have been. You were just unable to pick them up, just like BP folks are unable to pick those cues up from girls.
Work on your general social skills, not only game towards women. Learn to understand what to say and what not in which context and what to look for in those kind of situations.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Right.
So act accordingly. They have no loyalty, so you shouldn't either. They try to use you: don't let them. Fuck them, see other women, enjoy your freedom, don't expect loyalty from them.
This is a completely different thing to your feelings about girls.
Yes, you should.
I was exceptionally nice to people and sacrificed everything for other people, and I was hated for it.
Now I do what I want, when I want, and I'm pretty selfish about it. And I am loved for it.
Status trumps niceness every. fucking. time.
They're jealous and threatened by you. Spend less time with them, find better people.
And never ever rely on loyalty ever again - it's the world's most worthless currency, second only to reciprocation.
kv2_0833 1y ago
Yeah I guess it was two rants in one. I guess deep down inside I'm still abiding by or expecting covert contracts and that's where my anger stems from. I guess I also hold a big importance on friends that I've known for so long that I thought I had irreplaceable bonds with, but I guess I just got to fuck with people who fuck with me.
I love this, I'll keep it in mind.
Yeah that's what I've realized, I guess a light-hearted conversation would make the guy insecure if he was intimidated by me, I now remember I gave him some light shit-test that you do with your boys that made him turn to his girl for reassurance which maybe gave him problems later, idk.
Thanks again for your response.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
You better swallow it. I just got zeroed out by my own mother and business partner.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
It's also possible that she's poisoning him against you.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Your success shines a spotlight on their failures. You'd think a rising tide lifts all boats but over the course of your life all those friends will get married and you'll never see them again. Maybe at some point they get red pilled by a woman but you never know. It's best to just leave the past in the past.
It sounds like you may have AMOGged that guy. To be amogged is to be de-masculated. Specifically by another male bigger or stronger in stature. Top guys get accused of this a lot. You're probably better off getting 9s and 10s and then bring them with you. Or find another AMOG to hang with. It really takes the pressure off.
When I hit my stride I had a lot of problems with a lot of losers. I only hang with certain guys anymore outside of a hobby environment. Like this forum, for example.
kv2_0833 1y ago
Honestly I think you might be right. I knew of the term but I guess I never really considered that I'd find myself doing it subconsciously. I do remember jokingly giving him some shit a few times but in the moment I thought it was in the nature of fun, I was hoping he'd reciprocate because my first impression was that he was a cool dude.
Kind've unrelated but I have a question, I usually always have slightly above average chicks fucking with me, however the 9s and 10s come maybe once a month and usually have the hots for a few weeks before we grow distant. I guess in the past I've tried to kind've be a chill friend to them since I wanted to use them as social proof but that's failed to work. Is the only way to continue spinning them? I just can't spin the true hotties for longer than 2-3 weeks it seems.
I guess I'm still 20yo and just starting to hit my stride now and I'm starting to experience this. Sounds like the way to go. On a side note I randomly made friends with a 26yo millionaire who's redpilled to the bone from a rough childhood and I'm really thankful I found him because he's taught me so much and I've tried to share whatever I could with him as well.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah this is why I hate beta males. The dude could've just said "Hey are you hitting on my woman?". Instead he waits until after to say something behind your back. Also they get all butt-hurt by normal male socializing where we give each other shit tests just for fun(usually negging). You probably should've recognized this was a guy with weak frame after he failed your shit test and then proceeded accordingly.
I hear you with the hotties. If you're an 8 then a 9 can come along and it's over. You almost have to be an apex alpha to keep them. You could work on that. Be the bad boy. Was it @financehardo420 who was a drug dealer and now he gets nothing but the hottest chicks and they don't leave unless he fucks up and misfires a gun in front of them and gets oneitis. Maybe he would have some advice. Pick an archetype, learn what makes dark triad traits attractive, and then proceed. Maybe be the tatted up biker or whatever.
Tell your millionaire friend I need a job. lol. I'm doing coding boot camp right now. Nobody wants to hire an old, white, autistic male with a crazy resume spanning several decades and multiple countries.
financehardo420 1y ago
the fact that he got that flustered tells you everything you need to know. screams mad insecurity/lack of self confidence and frame. if you’re employing proper bitch mgmt you should just be playfully amused by dudes trying to hit on your girl. And if you’re to get pissed at anyone in the situation, you should get pissed at the girl for being responsive and continuing to engage some dude flirting w her.
ppl like that suck; don’t keep them in your circle. keep absolute dogs in your circle and if your bitch stays loyal around them then she deserves to be your bitch.
Also lol tbh the misfiring the gun thing might have to be my new fav shit test to give to girls. if they leave they don’t really like me like that; if they stay ik I can walk all over them and continue to bang more hotties on the side no problem ;)
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Can you speak to the OP's question about keeping hotties? We all know you came from a similar background of being a fat loser. I think my record for keeping a hottie is 3 months and I was a bad boy dealing drugs. What's working for you? Is it status? Money? Game? Frame?
financehardo420 1y ago
Dread game 10000%. Don’t get comfortable w these whores n more importantly, don’t let them get comfortable. I did a little and started getting soft (lazy for gym/lazy for diet); real quick went back on my diet grind and got back in shape and boom power shifted back to me pretty much instantly.
I’m on 4 months w current hottie and i feel like being toxic is absolutely key. bitches love a rollercoaster ride. I make sure she knows that if she ever acts out I will replace her with someone hotter the same night. whenever we do argue, I make my point calmly and say if you don’t like it the door is right there. that usually results in her pussy getting wet and then we fuck.
also in general being good @ sex makes you high value - I make her cum usually within like 5-10min or so; most dudes can’t.
Physique is like step 1 - you wouldn’t wanna fuck a fatty; hot chicks don’t wanna fuck ugly dudes. These days though everyone has physique; that’s where money and status come in and you differentiate yourself. Proper frame is the icing on top, and being toxic is the cherry lol.
I truly believe if you incorporate all those things and you internalize redpill game is literally unnecessary. Don’t text like a simp and don’t be a weirdo creep fuck and you’re chilling lol. Got a fucking super dime’s snap ln right before I went to fuck my blonde. Blonde leaves for break tn and i made plans w the super dime tonight. Got a table gonna pour bottles down her throat till she’s ready to put me down her throat >=]
whytehorse2021 1y ago
lol it takes you that long to make her cum? I got my wife down to like 2min.
Nelsoa 1y ago
In my opinion, you are still in the red pill rage. I don’t think you fully understand the concept of red pill, because you still evaluate urself with women