We accept as a core tenant of TRP that you're always paying for her time /pussy / attention in some way every time. You bought her drinks? You serve as the emotional handbag? You're paying for it.
In today's world - We have the sugar dating economy. It creates a world where men pay 200 dollars a month to be on a platform like seeking arrangements, and for that 200 they have the opportunity to offer women hundreds, to go on a date. Surprisingly, more often than not these dates are platonic.
Why would a woman go out with a guy for free where they might be expected to put out, when they can go on a sugar date for 400 and just exist for money. This has created a world where men really are nothing but a source of income to women. The old heads on TRP would probably say that this just a more honest transaction than the mixed mediums of dinners and drinks. The response is not to be bitter, but to become fabulously wealthy and build power such that we excel in these parameters.
All the same, I find myself a bit frustrated with that state of things. The sugar economy labeling men as sources of money and creating a profession dedicated to manipulating men emotionally for financial gain - is it really an if you can't beat em, join em scenario? Since this already exists, is the best answer really just to max out financially/professionally and play in this world?
I make six figures and have my own business, and this still seems ridiculous.
Just keep lifting.

Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
At least when you're a sex object to these women you're just paying with your body, which you have already paid for in time and food in your own. I can't argue with this line at all
Generally don't disagree with your post, you have my nod in agreement
RememberingAlpha 3y ago
Thanks. Seems this is where “the rubber hits the road” in terms of getting better not bitter.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3y ago
The sugar dating economy and OF environment,etc is for beta's. For sure they screw up things for the rest of us.
I think it's not as bad as you say though. I mean, I want to know if a girl is looking for sugar daddy right from the start. If they are obvious about it, that's good to me, she's removed.
You don't show you have money, don't provide resources to the girl. This way she's with you for (you), not your resources.
Now, that sounds like for a relationship, but what about the casual sex, ONS type situation.
It's not really different. Girls who look at you for ONS, casual, it's all about attraction (looks, personality), sure money helps , but it's not usually the determining factor.
So, whether you look for relationship or casual , no different. you continue to Lift, be fit, work and make $$ and do your thing.
You see girls and weed ones out that are looking for resources, fast.
Just don't get confused. Almost all girls, will not consider you for a relationship unless you are on her financial level or higher. So, girls who are higher earners, etc, will expect you to be there level or higher. If you hide your money, she may remove you from the picture because she sure as hell is not going to be a provider.
And that's ok ;)
RememberingAlpha 3y ago
Yeah, I basically arrived at that conclusion today. I had definitely heard all of this before, but only had the lightbulb moment with today.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Whenever technology enters a new human domain it creates extreme inequality with winners and losers. Dating apps basically made losers out of most men. We're all being selected by women based on looks. Probably the only guaranteed investment you can make is the gym and plastic surgery. Those sugar babies still fuck Chad while taking money from sugar daddies.
Rollo did a show recently with a guy named Sartain and he'll be seeing a girl HB10 and she'll be getting messages from Drake. It's like the competition always gets more and more extreme the higher you go. Looks, money, status... This is why guys who are 7 or below just give up and pay prostitutes - oops I mean sugar babies.
RememberingAlpha 3y ago
I've been out of the manosphere since 2017 when I entered an LTR that had me doing the beta back slide terribly and left me in a fucked place when that fell apart.
Obviously I know we've migrated here, but where can I keep up with Rollo / the other Endorsed type folks new content? I'm interested to see where a lot of the foundational stuff from the early 20teens is playing out in the modern climate.
While I clearly need to relearn the fundamentals, a lot of the stuff on the front page of .red feels like review that I consciously chose to ignore (hence the implosion of my LTR).
Good news is I'm down to 240 from 300 with 215 as my goal weight. Starting to get a lot of positive validation from people, bros and hoes alike.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Rollo's youtube channel is what I go to. It's like 4hrs every Sunday on a livestream. He does lots of announcements and recaps of what's going on. I think all the real juicy stuff has come after 2018. Either way looks are #1 right now so working on your body is 100% going to help.
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whytehorse2021 3y ago
Yes and no. I'm working 24/7 on lawsuits and working against horrendous deadlines so I got all out of shape. I hit the gym when I can though.