Advice for continuing my TRP path | TheRedPill

I wasn’t always a beta, but the choices I made and the circumstances I created definitely got me there. Growing up, I always had medical problems. I was born with a genetic heart issue and I had a lot of seizures up until I turned about 30. After high school I developed a serious habit with opioids and I kept ruining my life with Xanax blackouts. I was basically gutter garbage. Then I had a heart surgery, at 30, and was unable to work. Since I couldn’t work, I didn’t have any money and had to move into my late grandmas house way out in the country, with my parents, so far from the world I basically no longer existed.

Since that was the case, I went into hardcore withdrawal from the opioids and had to check into rehab. When I got out I had nowhere to go so I went back to my grandmas with no car, no money, and crippling depression from not having opioids. I spent 3 years of my life that way. Doing nothing. Getting walked on by everyone, especially women, and not getting laid that entire time. (I was very sexually active before this).

I finally got sick of it. I went back to school and got some certifications. I invested my stimulus in crypto and made enough to buy a car. I used that car and certifications to get a great job. I make at least 3x the household average in my state.

So I’m finally back on top and ready to be social again, but I’ve found that I absolutely HATE women now. They’re shallow, egotistical, rude, selfish, they don’t work, and they think men should basically worship them and if you don’t then you’re not worth their time. Trying to connect with someone like this is just annoying and I look around and see that men are willing to act the way they want EVEN IF ITS A FAT CHICK. And online dating is even worse! They demand for a mans profile to be complete and they demand that a mans message to them be unique, all while knowing that they are probably just going to ignore the message anyway. And the other men are playing right into their hands and it’s making women feel like they run the show. They can act however they want because they get 1000s of messages a day from desperate beta males.

I had a date get mad at me last night for calling her out about being a LOT fatter than her pictures, like I should just be good with it because I’m getting attention from a woman.

Holding a door open or putting the toilet seat down? I’m not doing that shit anymore. It’s no longer about being considerate, it’s all about treating women like they are the diamonds of the earth.

The problem I have, I’m not alpha enough to be thinking this way right now. I’m thin and haven’t worked out in years, I still look like I’m in my early twenties, and even though I make good money I still drive an older scion and have basic clothes. I need to step my game up, but I’m lazy as shit. How do I commit myself to taking the red pill completely?

I think I’ve basically decided that women are worth nothing more than live jerk off material and that I’ll never marry anyone but I’d still like to get laid whenever I want and I don’t want to do it with a fat chick.

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r3z01v 4y ago

Alphas don't think like that mate, losers that scam people and do digital begging act like that.

You did the work, be proud of it. Only a winner can do the work instead of just talking a big game. Yes,. there is more to do. And with that more you learn to stop thinking about fairness and childish entitlement. That's what the above complaints are... wimpy childish complains. Women are not there to award you companionship and respect. Ypou grow women. You pick one that is nice and pleasant and you turn her into your ride o die, or your Tuesday delight.

You are not a woman. You don't get to pick from the menu and just get a complete relationship off the shelf. Arguably not even women can do that, but dick supply is literally an all you can eat.

First of all - stop watching "red pill content" it's not red pill, it's self indulgent rethoric for entitled social retards. It's not even MGTOW or Black pill, it's just losers playing the digital marketing game, chasing the 3 hour work week game and making money of braindead wimps and lonely boomers with more money than sense.

Secondly, enjoy women for what they are. Nothing more, nothing less. This is more advanced, but do this for all people. You are so close to being an adult, to realizing that all that entitlement was for nothing. Realizing other people don't owe you shit, not even common curtasy. And that's what makes it special. That's why we apreciate polite people, happy people, sexy girly girls, sultry sluts and mature wifeys that have it all figured out.

And there's a next level beyond when you realize you can make a choice to be the best for others, to get the besdt for yourself ...but that's 5-8 years from now. For now, learn to appreciate the good, not expect it. Be surprised and let others surprise you.

SheLarror1234 4y ago

I'm more on the black pill side, I agree with some points presented here, but I also know that the complaints op have about women are spot on facts. It's about being morally precise for me, and for that I wouldn't tell op to lose his sense when he's actually right. But I do agree op has to completely lower his expectations of ever finding an ideal mate or a righteous women.

Even Eve couldn't do that.

People don't have to have common decency. Women don't have to be righteous, yeah. But those same people also don't really deserve it back. I call it Judgement.

Imo op has a choice to make. Why treat shit like water when it is not? If he's tired of drinking women shit then it's time to abstain from it. And I welcome it. And it's not wrong to call it what it really is.

Also to op, there's no certificate to the red pill. But do know, one of the things that make men so beta and women so masculine is "agreeability". Noticing the bullshit in "women nature" and playing your cards accordingly is a pretty good thing.

r3z01v 4y ago

Cats will eat yur face - FACTS!!!

Morally precise means autistic. In reality all these spot hoes can eat our of a man's palm. Your facts pertain to losers. Your facts only work for men with blue pill or conservative delusions.

Your facts mean nothing for pimps and whore mongers, DJs and fuckbois.

People don't have to have common decency. Women don't have to be righteous, yeah. But those same people also don't really deserve it back. I call it Judgement.

I call it being a petulant child and not understanding how you create the relationships you want to have. If you are negative, not even selfish but reactively passive aggressive - you guarantee to have the worse possible interactions with cunts - while at the same time I guarantee you will be kriptonite to literally anyone worth a damn. While on the opposite, if you are kind and courteous (from a place of strength and non neediness.) - you will be a beacon for the good people around, while at the same time keeping bitches on their toes. Being kind, doesn't mean you are actually a fool. You can still have red pill awareness and not buy the simping o strong independant woman frames while being a socially astute man.

I think the certificate of graduating Red Pill is not being affected by what women do. Just like parents can love their children without expecting them to pay rent, or get a physics degree, men can enjoy women as they are, for what they are - even without romanticizing their emotional attachments in a Disney like metanarrative.

SheLarror1234 4y ago

Sorry i had typed that out too quick on my phone so it may be hard to understand my point, i was all over the place.

Morally precise (or the introspection and decision of virtuous conduct) does not mean autistic, and it does not make you a blue pill either. For many it is a subjective thing. But petulant or impetuous childish behavior simply does not crossmix well with introspection and virtue. Yes things such as virtues mean nothing to someone who literally does not care about it and is not bound by such ideas. But it is as you said; "understanding how you create the relationships you want to have" . The keyword is understanding which is synonymous to introspection. whether it be some dark triad, redpiller, or monk

I told op he needs to make a choice. What is his goal in TRP? If his testimony against women are ~ " that all women are "live jerk off material". He needs to ask himself another question; What now? He says that he plans to " ..still like to get laid whenever I want and I don’t want to do it with a fat chick" So in this case i do agree that his complaints are petulant and childish. Like a baby crying he did not get a lolipop, instead of a man deciding he does not want to eat that sweet shit, or a man determined to find the sweetest shit in the city no matter what.

Also, being kind and courteous "(from a place of strength and non neediness)" has to be built on precepts upon precepts imo. For me, being astute in the dating strategy (traditional red pill) is knowing female nature well, and knowing what's best for me, and then making the decision of abstaining from it. Its saying I'm building my legacy and don't need that in my life right now. I can still function and thrive in other aspects of society by knowing and assessing the similar situations and natures as well, not being deceived by it etc.

One thing about op and me though, is this choice making.

You know what your getting into if your well informed about female nature.

When you walk into a food shop and they don't have the thing you are looking for you don't yell at the cashier. If your gas is wasted then you leave and never come back. Go to another store maybe. Write a bad review if they were rude or shitty. But what you don't do is walk back after you leave expecting something different.

I'm not on tinder and I don't support it, so I don't use it. So you wont be see me raging to some fat chick after messaging her trying to smash. The reason one is seen as astute and the other a petulant child is due to introspective life decisions and being determined to follow through on it. If my goal was like ops, i would be on every social dating app or whatever. Not complaining and discussing to TRP how im pissed of about female entitlement, but about maximizing my roi or tips etc.

r3z01v 4y ago

We agree on most points - I just disagree with the philosophying part. It's self indulgent and solipsistic, it doesn't make you a better man.

But it is as you said; "understanding how you create the relationships you want to have" . The keyword is understanding which is synonymous to introspection. whether it be some dark triad, redpiller, or monk

No, the keyword and action verb is "you CREATE"

The "pentulant child entitlement" and the anti-feminist theory that gets floated around here is not making you better at life. It's not red pill. It's just pure solipsism extracted from pop culture, media comentary and shock value outlying stories.

It was studied that women that read feminist news have PTSD symtoms and are more lilkely to report sexual abuse and see their partners as threats. What do you think OPs views will be when he meets a woman? He isn't any different than a gender studies broad.

What type of relationship do you think he can create?

Women are purely reactive. If you know what you want and tell her, she will do it, because first step in even the most manipulative cunt is to get the mark to like her. All male trauma comes from either men letting the woman lead or starting defensively and gauging what she has to offer.

To use your supermarket analogy - you won't get called a robberr if you go about shopping like a normal fucking human being.... if you hang out with robberrs in front of the store, if you go in hood on head or hag out in the corner hidden away from cameras - sorry - YOU EARN THE WORSE PORSSIBLE OUTCOME> Sure, won't happen today, won't happen tomorrow, but when you will try to get that pack of skittles from that girl in the office - you will attract the crazy that romanticizes being adored by creeps and then playing the victim after some provoked miscomunications.

hannulv 4y ago

I need to step my game up, but I’m lazy as shit. How do I commit myself to taking the red pill completely?

TRP is just an anthology of men's experience and evo-psych understanding of women. Understanding women is just one aspect. Whether you do anything about bettering yourself is up to you. You basically need to want it. You need to want the benefits of being a high-value male more than you want comfort. If you prefer being comfortable, then just go do that and make the best of it.

Personally, I don't care if you spend the rest of your life wanking to the hub, and never know the touch of a women. I don't care if you cruise escort lists looking for 40-yo fatties that'll give you handjobs for $25 dollars. I don't care if you move to Thailand and buy yourself an 18 year-old sex slave. I don't care if you become a boss player in the Miami club scene nailing 4 IG models a night with a 20% closure rate on approaches, or if you marry a good solid farm woman and settle down in the Okie prairies with a dozen kids. What the fuck do you want, and what the fuck are you willing to do about it?

TRP matters in most of the above scenarios. If you are low-value with hookers, or with your farm-wife, they will walk all over you, and refuse to give you their best. Even your Thai sex slave will walk all over you if you don't learn how to become a high-value, dominant man. That might be fine with you, if so, then choose comfort, and own the fact that your own comfort is more important than your relationships. No one here cares what you choose. It's completely up to you.

whytehorse2021 4y ago

Start working on your retirement

Durek_The_Bald 4y ago

The obvious next step, which should've been your first step, is to lift. If you aren't even doing that, then there's no point in contemplating anything else, or start drawing conclusions about women or yourself. Because you're probably overly pessimistic about most things going on in your mind. Male well-being, mental health and clarity of mind ALWAYS starts with lifting heavy things.

mattyanon Admin 4y ago

They’re shallow, egotistical, rude, selfish, they don’t work, and they think men should basically worship them and if you don’t then you’re not worth their time

This is true of women when dealing with betas. If you're attractive they behave differently.

d and see that men are willing to act the way they want EVEN IF ITS A FAT CHICK

Yep....... fucking idiots.

And online dating is even worse! They demand for a mans profile to be complete and they demand that a mans message to them be unique, all while knowing that they are probably just going to ignore the message anyway.

Yes

I had a date get mad at me last night for calling her out about being a LOT fatter than her pictures, like I should just be good with it because I’m getting attention from a woman.

Yeah, the entitlement is off the scale. She knows she's lying, but expects you to be ok with it.

Holding a door open or putting the toilet seat down? I’m not doing that shit anymore. It’s no longer about being considerate, it’s all about treating women like they are the diamonds of the earth.

damn straight - women are not deserving of special treatment.

The problem I have, I’m not alpha enough to be thinking this way right now. I’m thin and haven’t worked out in years, I still look like I’m in my early twenties, and even though I make good money I still drive an older scion and have basic clothes. I need to step my game up, but I’m lazy as shit. How do I commit myself to taking the red pill completely?

I can't motivate you. You know the sketch: be attractive or get treated like shit. Where you get your motivation from is down to you,, but at least you're not being duped anymore.

I think I’ve basically decided that women are worth nothing more than live jerk off material and that I’ll never marry anyone but I’d still like to get laid whenever I want and I don’t want to do it with a fat chick.

You either get really good and confident at chatting up women (which is hard work), or get fit and attractive (also hard work), or don't have sex. Them's your options.