So, I've been red pilled for over 1 year now, I'm ignoring game for now, cause is too soon for me, I'm focusing on more important things, like making money. I've seen plenty of posts on asktrp were people talk about having money and living by themselves ate the age of 19, etc.
I can't see that happening. I'm a CNC machnist/operator with almost 4 years experience and I can't see myself making alot of money anytime soon. I can't see how 19 years old kids are paying rent while having a normal life.
So, to people who didn't have their parents pay for their education and car, how did u became independent? I'm tired of living with my parents but I don't make enough money to move out? Are there more profitable jobs to start doing from scratch? I'm 28 in one of the smallest menimum wage country's in Europe. I was thinking about programming, since I can have the salary of a good country and live in my cheap country. I don't know, I'm kinda lost.

OtPayOkerSmay 4y ago
Most of those 19 year old kids are stuck in the trap. They have a rented space and live a normal life, but they will never be able to save anything and get ahead - they'll go paycheque to paycheque paying rent, buying food, putting gas in the tank, making minimum payments on lines of credit, and then splurging with whatever pitiful amount is left over after fixed expenses. At 30, many of them will likely be in the exact same boat; but with a wife and kids in tow to weigh them down even more.
Are you spending all your earnings on silly things, or working hard to save? You can have a great wage/salary, but if you don't know how to save properly and live well below your means then you will never reach financial independence. Try to live extremely frugally while your parents are being gracious enough to let you live with them, and start to put money into investments so it can accumulate and grow. No more petty purchases you can do without, and cut out any expensive habits like drinking and/or smoking.
coiso 4y ago
What do u do for a living? Tell me a bit about ur career history if u don't mind.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Worked hard, got good, changed jobs, got pay raises.
You can't remote-work and get high wages in a low wage country because EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING THE SAME THING.
Remote programming gigs are not as easy to get as you'd think.
Having said that, programming is something you can learn yourself and it's a great career if you're good at it.
coiso 4y ago
Why did u got good at something and then changed jobs? Or did u just changed companies?
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Simple: bigger pay raises.
You're lucky to get 5% if you stay where you are.
You can easily get 15% if you move.
I worked hard on my skills and companies always think I'm worth hiring at the new rate.
coiso 4y ago
Is not that easy for me. Most job offers are far away from my home, i would waste at least 30% on gas alone. If it's close to a train station it's quite affordable (where i am now it's a 15/20min bike ride from the station, i even bought a e-bike just for this job so i could save money on gas).
What do u do for a living?
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Sometimes you gotta make compromises to get up.
I can't share details, but I am fairly successful in a technical field.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
I'm in the USA.
I was lucky enough to have my parents pay, but I'm old, college was dirt cheap when I went to school.
In the US, an experienced CNC will get between 25-30/hr = $60K is about your max.
In some areas of the US, that's not bad, it's lower mid to middle class for a single guy.
Programming is an art and takes time to learn to be good at (and make good cash).
Cloud (google/AWS/Microsoft) engineers do well, high need for good ones that especially get the networking/security parts.
You can get a lot of those certs/experience online, then you'd start at the bottom with a company and if you are good, you can move up very fast either internally or just jump to another company. Jumping to another company is where you usually get the biggest raises. You can easily make $120K as a cloud engineer
Is it easy? No. Takes work, it's a skill, some are good at it others not.
Also , recommend you actually enjoy what you are doing, so if you had being on a computer all day and looking at spreadsheets, probably not for you
coiso 4y ago
I had some programming classes back in high school and although very basic i really enjoyed those, i think i would enjoy being a programmer but anything college related is out of the question, i don't have money for that, i even give some money to my parents cause they cant pay the bills by themselves.
Are u a cloud engineer?
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
programming was boring as hell for me, But, I'm old, like green screen days, syntax was everything. Modern code is much different, so maybe I'd like it more?
Hard core engineer, through several different careers, now doing Cloud engineering.