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expired_octopus

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I can say guy have interesting point and sound initailly redpilled.

Independence is the key to true love and long-lasting relationships. Want to lower the divorce rate by 90%? Teach people to become independent. It’s not just a BPD issue you’re talking about, it’s a society issue. This age has more and more broken relationships than ever before.

Lmao yeah I mean this is actually what I teach right here when it comes to dating 101. Most guys make the mistake of chasing the girl thye want right out of their life before she even commits, lmao. It’s a major problem, but corrected easily when you understand WHY you must be patient and let the person come to you. One girl who’s like this once told me that it’s fine to call or leave a text, but just leave it at that and simply let her take her time to respond to you. And I’ve been doing that ever since, and it’s never let me down. I’ve seen guys text their way right out of a potential great relationship all because they were impatient :)

https://www.reignitethefire.net/bpd-relationship-stages-love-evolves/

Then I see his comment [ Rick says 04/20/2015 at 8:32 pm] and see he is not so repilled, but to some extent his point advocates RP with women in general.

A: We separated in November due to her affair and now she is trying really hard to get me to get back with her. Due to her affair being with a coworker at work and her desire to work things out with me is it acceptable to ask her to leave her job or at the minimum transfer to another office?

R: I personally wouldn’t make the work thing a big deal. The fact that they’re around each other every day is actually probably why they split up. Notice how she never sees you and now she wants you. Distance makes the heart grow fonder, hence why I teach people to not text everyday, definitely not hang out every day, etc. Good work though man, keep it up. Don’t stop even if you get her back.

Finally comment from policeman that seemingly educate himself afterhours:

Rick, this is a really good article, I think the best work you’ve done (that I have read).

I would like to expand on BPD and how people that display those traits Think.

The DSVM-IV classifies Cluster B traits (including BPD) as “high functioning”, and “low functioning”.

In my 17 year police career, I routinely encountered a certain core of individuals who, I would consider low functioning. These folks just couldn’t seem to get it together. They couldn’t keep a job, couldn’t have stable communication with interactions with even total strangers. In effect they are completely unaware of themselves and how they affect the world around them. These types are not what I’m addressing though.

What I’m addressing here is the “high functioning”dynamic. These are people who are AWARE of the affect they have with people they interact with. They hold down jobs and many times succeed with them. They have good friends and can always present themselves well to others.

There is a deeper problem though. It’s what is known as the “Dark Triad”. These traits are brought about in your partner by your neediness or codependancy, however, IT’S NOT YOUR FAULT!!! Again, how you present yourself as needy is your responsibility, but it’s your partners lack of integrity to use that vulnerability as an opportunity to abuse you by acting out in such negative ways.

To develop what you teach, which is stoicism (to the extreme), is just as manipulative as the BPD’er is. No human being can be so stoic as to never display intimacy. That would be inhuman and merely like an automaton.

What I’m learning is that I need to learn to “read” people’s emotional state at any given moment, and respond correctly, as to the emotional state of the other. Study how women give “shit tests”, and what they really want from you when they give them. One further point I’ve discovered about shot tests. It’s not gender specific. Both genders do it, but they come from different reference points. BPD is inherently a feminine trait, and men who display it have been somehow femonized.

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expired_octopus 2y ago

Same guy writes:

You SHOULD NOT date women (or men) who suffer from anxiety disorders.

n this day and age we live in, I truly believe this to be the most important dating advice I can give you right now. Unfortunately, many will read this article and brush it off because they have a Savior mentality, which is admirable. But you will learn through experience, which isn’t a bad thing.

Understand: at the end of the day, it’s not your job to fix someone. Instead, you should be pursuing and dating men and women who are healthy and free from mental disorders (easier said than done, of course).

The problem with anxiety disorders is that there are many types and levels. Hell, even our pets struggle with anxiety. Dogs with social anxiety are a serious problem and can be very destructive (just like the men and women who have anxiety).

I’ve dated a lot of women with anxiety. As a healthy, successful man, I am naturally a Giver when it comes to relationships. I have nothing to take. Nothing to control. I like women to feel free. All healthy individuals are approach relationships in this way.

BPD and dark triad disorders are actually short term mating strategies that evolved to deal with scarce resources and harsh environments. The fact that they exploit human nature is not your fault. Female emotion evokes male altruism instinctively. This is why BPD works so well for women.

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expired_octopus 2y ago

On the contrary to downvotes I give it reason of doubt, because however you wouldn't look at it, it fucking works for them short term, at least in some cases, BPD victim forums do not lie [some divorce rapes are definitely BPD].

I forgot to put it in my post before. The idea that grew in my head is, RP strategy in a most barebone way treats women as being BPD a priori [if you stirp it from self improvement]. I don't see it as a bad thing to assume.

BPD, sure leaves burned ground behind but so did Germans and Russians during extinction, so it was some strategy.

The huge weakness of this theory is, there is really no scarcity of resources. Big daddy [gov] provides women with safe landing in case of problems in every area of women's life... What they can't provide is: long term relationship.

I would speculate that the same thing that make boys soyboys and other traditionally non masculine traits, makes women more likely to fall into BPD. But why this happens is already covered by TRP.

So I would agree to call it short term mating strategy, but would call it 'burned ground strategy' and is not beneficial overall as maybe you get some resources but mental problems really do not make the life easier. Nature apparently strives to optimize both, hence it points toward mental problem.

I know you have your own experience but like with ADHD at some point every child that wanted to do too much stuff, was put in one bag with all ADHD kids. With BPD might be the same.

Ultimately women want to "extract" resources, it 'd be really hard to distinguish fine line between mild case of BPD and being just entitled bitch. TRP is good strategy.

I have limited knowledge of BPD but see possibilities of it being long term strategy for survival only, not mating is distinct.

Here I have flashback from Calhoun experiment.

Or people with BPD have parasite https://neurosciencenews.com/brain-parasites-14791/

I wont be able to discuss as I remove myself from forum soon.

EDIT blog author:

Every Single Woman Has BPD https://www.reignitethefire.net/how-borderline-personality-disorder-affects-the-rest-of-the-family/#more-6354

whytehorse2021 2y ago

Scarcity of resources is different from harsh environment. The competition for alphas has never been greater. I would argue this is environmental rather than resources simply because women are driving it through social media and dating apps.