I noticed a frequent reason not to approach:
I don't want to hear the boyfriend line again, not from that woman.
Good looking women are rare and all women that I fancied gave me the boyfriend line without feedback why.
I have zero reasons to believe that it's different this time. Why should it? I am obviously doing something wrong, but if I don't get it and she doesn't say, how would I know?
Pedal_Moonpower 2y ago
Drop me a PM in your native language or elaborate its hard to understand
BerndDudek 2y ago
What do you understand? I take it from there.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah the boyfriend line... Every woman has a boyfriend. That's her personal problem so you say "I didn't ask about your personal problems" and go on saying what you were going to say anyway. You are breaking down her defenses. That's just a shit test. Pass it and carry on. Get her number anyway. Fuck her anyway. Let her deal with her boyfriend problem.
MrSupreme 2y ago
Yeah flip the script, make it her issue not yours, do it amicably enough to get a number for the prize at the end
BerndDudek 2y ago
I have been in the game since 2002. "I didn't ask about your personal problems" has not worked once. You need to fieldtest your ideas before you spread them. The reaction is always Schadenfreude in their eyes that they baited you and you took the bait when you reply like that.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
I think it depends on your personality. I can't get away with certain tactics that worked when I was younger and vice versa. There's also a generational shift in women. At any rate that tactic is textbook shit test 101 from here: https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Not every girl is going to do that.
Give yourself an honest assessment of your SMV, how you're approaching, and how well you think it's actually going for you.
If your honest assessment has notable room for improvement, that may be why you're getting that line.
But every girl you want to approach but don't is a girl who might not have dropped that line at all and gone out with you.
Do salesmen quit after hearing "I'll think about it" or "I'm interested I'll buy one when I have the money?" when the customer doesn't actually want to? No, they just improve and keep going because people can and will buy their product, just not most of the people they cold sell to
BerndDudek 2y ago
Is there a complete list to go through and compare, like a "this is what she doesn't tell you but expects from you" list?
milfslapper2021 2y ago
I really like the sales metaphor. I also believe game is really akin to sales.
BerndDudek 2y ago
So what's the analogon to "I also have this product at home, it's great"?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
That was the analogue, that like an uninterested consumer, the girl gives a rubber-stamp excuse that she doesn't mean but says because it'll get you to leave
Don't read too far into the analogy, the fact is some people give an excuse, doesn't matter what it is, and other people will buy the product
BerndDudek 2y ago
No. Salespeople often say "I also have this product at home", which is always a lie, but then people buy like crazy. So what is the equivalent to "I also have this product at home" in pickup, why does it work in sales?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
You're reading way too far into comparisons. My metaphor's literal only intended interpretation is that some people will say whatever bullshit they can to get you to fuck off, and other people will buy the shit you're selling and you get the sale.
That's it.
You're taking the metaphor to a level I had no intention of taking it to. Just take the point as intended and not as a philosophical thought exercise