Hi guys, this is my first post. I have been putting it off but I have been doing NoFap for a week now and i guess my confidence is boosting.. I will try and keep it as short and sweet as i can cause i know there's loads of posts.
Context -
I have only had 3 female friends. One of the friends turned into my first ever sexual relationship, we were together for 3 years. Relationship got rocky because i was progressing in life which made her feel shitty, eventually decided to break up cause I felt like she was only dragging me down.
We have been FWB for about a year and a half now but i'm slowly getting abit tired of it and crave someone else but don't wanna be left with nobody. I have had one other quick fling about a year ago but she wasn't really anything to brag about at all, just a work skag. None of this required any real game as the girls weren't exactly hard to obtain.
I started reading TRP, bought the rational male, gymming and eating loads, but felt like I was reading too much and doing too little. Have been building my SMV but girls seem to not be interested when i've been clubbing, whilst people around me are sorted. Necked on with one but i think it was for validation and another told me i'm too old, i'm nearly 24. Told me "aren't men at your age wanting to settle down".
I have tried putting an online profile up but only got uggers so maybe the profile is strong enough. Even then, i wouldn't now what to say or where to start. Overthinking is a big problem which I am overcoming.
I feel like an autist but i know i'm not really, just have a lack of experience talking to women and have no idea how to build an emotional connection, wouldn't say empathy is my forte. I am great with people who can talk to me which i can reflect on, but have problems being the conversation starter - a vital necessity to the mysterious 'game'?
-get to the point m8
Guess the questions to ask is, should i let this FWB go and go full monk mode? Will semen retention and Nofap help with boosting confidence? How do i take good OLD pics when nobody can take the pics for you and what is the best advice to feel confident talking to women? Really feel like time is running out and i don't wanna become old and regret not changing my life cause i really wanna spin plates and live my best life!
Thanks lads, peace
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
look at "Mallardcove's" Tinder Guide in the search bar (not sidebar)
Drop the fwb if it's dragging you down. Or learn to just enjoy that it's routine sex while you game other options.
Usually not being able to move past a girl is emotionally based
Nofap isn't for everyone but if it works for you do it.
2toesunder 2y ago
Will give that a look for sure. Feels like i'm stuck in limbo of 1-2 body count, need some more confidence.
I feel reliant on her and know if i had other plates then it would be dropped. Have learned to repress a lot of emotions so building new ones is challenging and some social skills are missing. Never really had to 'game' an option and game seems like a mystery word, do you need to peacock and build the muscle first or just get out there and start saying hello to people.
Definitely feeling some effects, may do a review every month or so.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
No problem
That limbo is real until you break out of it. Use her for abundance, you're already getting laid at the end of the day even if you fail with other women at first
Just start talking to people. Waiting for muscles etc is just putting up unnecessary barriers to getting better socially.
I learned most of my gym routine from Michael Matthews book "Bigger, Leaner, Stronger"
2toesunder 2y ago
Awesome, yeah really need to break out of it bro, feel so dependant on her and it's not really good especially since i live 200+ miles away now.
When i do talk it's just how is your day, doesn't really escalate but will defo try to improve.
That's weird cause i've just bought that book haha
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I wouldn't ask a girl how her day is going. Roosh's Dang Bay (near impossible to get a copy now) juts says to do "old man game".
Imagine how how old men talk to you in public. They make various comments about different things and ask basic questions about things as if they don't know the answers to them
"That's a nice watch, is it better than xyz etc.."
I've only tried it a couple of times but it seems better than the hi, how are you style approach
Temerity18 2y ago
On OLD you usually get women way less attractive than yourself. It's a woman's frame. It will make you feel like shit.
Stick to real life.
2toesunder 2y ago
It made me feel good when i got a match, but then seeing who matched me turned me inside out lol. Very right there really gives women a false sense of worth.
I feel that OLD is an essential step for learning how to text girls. Sort of cache-22 situation cause you can't get plates without game, and you can't have game without plates.
Temerity18 2y ago
Back on asktrp there was a guy who did solid research on online dating versus real life. He was a 6ft4 chad. His summary was that online dating will make you feel like shit. He did not get hardly any responses except unfuckable women. In real life the women who responded positively to him where "orders of magnitude" hotter than what he could get from OLD. He deleted the dating apps and never looked back.
You don't need OLD. Not even for training. And, again, it will seriously pollute your self confidence. Avoid it like the plague.
In real life evoke the feeling you have been boning the woman for years. It will put you at ease. And escalate (in private).
Another quote from asktrp: Flirting and sex are natural, and 90% of your job is deprogramming yourself from the bullshit ineffectual behaviors society has imprinted on you.
2toesunder 2y ago
Interesting, will probs delete them, it is a toxic environment.
Recommend any good books or should i just literally start talking to people not knowing what to say, like i can spark up a conversation but can't spit game and just seems like i'm saying hello then the conversation stagnates. Maybe i'm overthinking it
Temerity18 2y ago
Good books....
The Manual: What Women Want by W. Anton
Models, by Mark Manson
The System, by Roy Valentine
You seem to be doing fairly well with women. When you get the hang of relaxing yourself around women you will be less likely to run out of things to say.
Women want men as much as men want women, but it is our privilege to make it happen.
Have fun
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
If she's a FWB you can get others without losing this one.
Clubbing sucks for meeting women. It's where women go to get attention, not sex.
Don't listen to women, especially not ONE woman. Jeez, it's one comment from one woman. Simply say "I'm not 60 yet" and ignore her.
online sucks too. if it works for you great. if not don't do it.
keep her and get more
probably not
get a tripod and stage photos. no bathroom selfies, no mirrors. tripod, camera, timer, practice. Best is to make it keep taking a pic every 10 seconds, then yo don't keep rearming. Set up a cool location and photo somewhere interesting.
abs help a lot
PRACTICE.
it really isn't, you have decades.
Then do it!
Talk to women. Get good at it. Physically escalate. Learn to be outcome indifferent while still making effort.
2toesunder 2y ago
Thank you man, high hopes for 2022!