My LTR left me 3 months ago, she asked me for an open relationship and said that there is we have to experience on our own I'm 22, I got really mad and found that really disrespectful after spending 1 year and a half together and creating plans for the future. Anyway I was going to study abroad in a month and I always told her that I would never do long-distance relationship
Since the breakup, we had no contact, she reached out on my birthday and said happy birthday, then asked about me and how I'm doing. I answered with: I already told you I'm not interested in staying friends or having small talks. She said she wanted to talk and I said : Thanks but no thanks. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed our time together while it lasted but dating is a test to see if we can fit long term, and you flunked the test. I have no desire in giving you a do over because as much as i believe in second chances i believe in first chances. You’ve made it clear that you were so ready to leave the relationship for a relatively short stint of partying or " experiencing things on our own", the bond will never be the same and I deserve better. Best of luck
I know this girl is pretty into me, and been always sharing stuff on social media about our love and how soulmates no matter what will connect again at the right time. I don't know if it was the right decision to completely cut her off, but the fact that she initiated to break up with me, always reminds me that girl will never have the same respect for me as an alpha male.
What are your thoughts? Do you think I should have let things smooth around us and maybe plate her in the future, I really had an amazing experience with her

LeeroysBackInJailAgain 4y ago
You made the correct move by cutting her off. I guarantee you shes not reaching out because shes missing you while getting railed by Chad and Tyrone. Thats what she wants more than being with you, shes proven that already.
She reached out to you because you cut her off and it fucked with her head. She was trying to see if she can still have access to you if she wanted...not because she wants you, but merely for her own ego validation and to appease her guilt so she can feel better about herself. Dont play along, and definitely dont break frame by trying to sleep with her again. It will show her that she has the power over you to make you abandon your principles. Its weak, its beta, and she wont respect you if you do that, believe me.
Youve done everything right so far, in my eyes. Do not waiver. Do not show weakness. Do not break frame. No contact. Find a replacement and forget about her, thats it.
Manoble 4y ago
Thanks a lot, man, believe it or not, she reached out to me again, since I muted her on Facebook I could see her text without leaving seen. She told me she found an opportunity abroad ( Where I'm actually in France), and she would like to have a small chat. I honestly don't even think of answering back, I was clear that I don't wanna stay friends or talk about anything. I can tell you that, I was very alpha during the relationship and I rocked her world for real, But due to a lot of stress in my life I got a little bit beta, and the moment she sniffed that she broke up with me.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Sadly you're right. This is classic "alpha fucks beta bucks". All this romantic fluff is basically this: "please wait for me and support me after I've been run through by a train of alphas".
The evolutionary drive behind this is to fuck hot attractive men, and then get beta males to support her and raise her kids.
The correct move is to demote to fuck buddy and never be exclusive again - but it's very hard to do that when you've invested so much in a girl.
In future do not invest so much, and seriously consider if you want to be exclusive or not.
Manoble 4y ago
I was thinking about that, to demote her to fuck buddy and I still can. as she still trying to reach out, but I feel like that would fuck me up mentally and it is going to be very hard to maintain my frame and not fall again. I'm newly red-pilled and it was thanks to this breakup so I don't know if i really cured my oneits
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
FUCK OTHER WOMEN.
This will sort out all your head problems and help maintain frame.
Cancelcancelculture 4y ago
There is a high chance that shes reaching out for the purposes of her own ego, to see how needy you are. To be honest a better response would have been total radio silence or some small talk like the way you'd hold convo with a colleague.
LeeroysBackInJailAgain 4y ago
Here here. Exactly this. Its all about her and how she feels about herself. It has very little to do with you actually.
I had an ex do exactly the same thing after i cut her off, wished me a random happy birthday more than a year later. Women tend to do shit like that...they cant stand when you cut them off.
Manoble 4y ago
I guess that's true, she might not have been getting the attention she wanted from other men, but I don't think she should struggle for that she is kinda hot and has a ton of orbiters already. And she has been fuckedup mentally lately after the breakup, well that's what my circle of friends told me, and as unfortunately, we share the same friends.
Tooktheredpill 4y ago
A lot of guys would have let oneitus get the best of them. Kudos to you for having self-respect. I know it’s tough and it hurts, but you’ve got balls.
Keep her completely ghosted brother. It’ll be much better for your mental health and well-being.
Best of luck to you in the future.
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Manoble 4y ago
Yeah it's funny because when we were breaking up, she littearly told me that I know I will wake up in two months and say how i fucked up my life. She was telling me how she was overthinking a lot. But yeah it felt like my text was bit butthurt but I really wanted to speak my mind and say fuck it
I know I could have ignored it and never answer or say anything. But from what I have heard from my friends, she still tell them that they have to change my mind about the fact it was a good decision for us that she broke up with me at that time
Axlerod9999 4y ago
Dont think too much. Whats done is done. Never regret your decisions. Although being calm during break ups is the ideal situation. You could calmly even ask her to reconsider (so she cant say you didnt stop her hence your love was fake etc) but if she refuses then thats it. Radio silence. Never respond. Until she does something extra ordinary to get your attention. If you keep responding to texts and calls she will suck away your soul and will keep on trying to find other suitors and then suddenly will stop calling you
hannulv 4y ago
"Dude. I'm really into you, we're mystically connected, but right now I need to fuck other guys. Wife me up someday?"
"Lol. No."
Hard next is the right choice.
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Manoble 4y ago
I littearly felt like that. Like honestly I can say it was a real mystical connection ( i don't know if you're into that but we used to do a lot of psychedelic together) and that really influenced our relationship. But even after that the fact she wanted an open relationship and she said she is going for a short trip and she wanna experience things on our own a bit. That was the end
Axlerod9999 4y ago
You cant have a connection with woman. You are more smart. Guys can only have fun with other guys. Imagine your gf says we can never have sex but can hangout, will you be happy? Shes only good for that one thing and everything else is just a bonus.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
I love it. Wish more guys would do the same. At least you won't be with a chick who wants to fuck other guys.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
they all want to fuck other guys. But to actually come out and ask him for it. Next
Manoble 4y ago
I won't lie, but I'm still healing and getting myself back. Though I think I was super bluepill mindset before the breakup, but had good game and that's why I could keep her that long. But thanks to breakup I read the rational male and it explained everything
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
You had far more balls than 90% of grown men that have found themselves in the same situation. It was incredible that you told her that.
She did disrespect you. She went from being committed to you to basically saying, "well I like you sort of still but I want some other dick in me too while I fuck you only when and where I want to at my leisure"
That's worse than ghosting you to live out a single life. You made the right choice.
No to plating, all of the nostalgia will still come up and so will the feels you spent 3 months killing. Not only that, but every time she says no to sex, every time you hear of her other Chads, etc. Etc. Will fill you with utter contempt.
Don't let yourself get sucked into such a situation. Be the prize and keep on your mission
Manoble 4y ago
Thank you man for the text.
It was truly thanks to breakup that I got red pilled, it made question why would a girl that dreams of me proposing , to someone that wanted to stay together, but wanna do an open relationship.
Honestly if we started with an open relationship and she said that's i wouldn't care but we were committed for a year and then asks for an that it was the breaking point.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
no problem man
These girls in their early twenties are hoes man. They're at their maximum level of attractiveness before their looks hit the ceiling and slowly go down hill.
They know they have no real pressure to commit to a man until their late twenties, sometimes even early thirties. So they fuck around and then look for Mr perfect later, which usually hilariously backfires on them
It sucks, this is how many, if not most modern women are. It's not you, women are not romantics
dirtymikeandtheboyz 4y ago
If she was that into you, she wouldnt want to fuck other guys. Clearly she thought you weren't the hottest guy she could find and wanted to keep you as a safety option while she found a Brad Pitt look alike. She probably realized during her partying stint that those guys are out of reach for her and she has come back to you as she thinks you are probably the best she can do aka "the safety option". You did the right thing ignoring her, lift and improve your income and long term you will be in an ever better position than you are now even though short term you might feel like you made a mistake (thats just your mind playing tricks on you).
Manoble 4y ago
I totally agree,
Thanks !
Growing 4y ago
Avoid LTRs when you are this young. You got into that one, you learnt. Take the lesson with you.
Good job at avoiding friendzoning yourself. You drew a clear boundary at shunning small talk and etc. You came out as a person who knows what he wants not a person who was hurt by not getting what he wants. Kudos.
Avoid her. You might give her more than she deserves if you plate her and might end up getting yourself cucked (read disrespected and viewed in a disgusting manner).
If she persists after the fact,
Manoble 4y ago
Definitely, it's thanks to this break-up i realized the existence of the red pill.
For sure I won't be engaging in any ltr anytime soon.
True I think if I plate her i will get get back the oneitis