Rollo Tomasi mentions on several occasions about women constantly attempting to dilute masculinity and turning it for their own favor such as flipping concepts of honor and loyalty, eg calling an AFC honorable when he takes care of Chad's children. Anyway, hopefully true redpillers know what am talking about.
My question is, has the atmosphere of feminism/feminization of men affected the way the game is played, have the redpill rules and strategies changed as a result of more and more women subscribing to the feminism mindset. So eg, if a girl now has more orbiters than before, does that mean the game is a little tougher for aspiring Chads.
Also has anyone of y'all had the balls to hit on a devolt feminist. What are they like, do they subscribe to the same perspective even in their personal lives as what they chant publicly, or do they fall for a Jerk Chad just as easy. Curious. I'm half tempted to try one.

PSYCHOKILLA 4y ago
jerk Chad ha?
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Rollo also says women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. Feminism has just added more rules for betas. That being said, you can bet women will adapt to game, but they can never adapt their evolutionary psychology and it's much more exposed now.
As for women who self-identify as feminists, they're just a bunch of muppets repeating lies. Go google feminist lies or look up all the youtube videos of women whose lives were ruined by those lies. In the 60's, feminists co-opted the women's rights movement and used propaganda to make women ruin their lives. There's a whole book about it written by the woman who was doing the propaganda. I shit you not.
Bulozi 4y ago
So not only is feminism creating more betas, its also low-key ruining average women as well? Damn, was under the impression feminism was a flawless weapon by women to tip everything in their favour. I have heard of marriages destroyed by feminism but never thought it could also ruin women in general
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Yeah it's a whole thought paradigm. Women ruin themselves for marriage by trying to be men. They have high body counts, careers, act masculine, etc. They feminize men by negging them into submission. Eventually they die alone with boxed wine and cats.
master-of-losers 4y ago
Feminism, by converting men into white knights, decreases the competition that you as a real man have. Therefore it should make things easier for you in terms of getting girl's attention.
The rules of what attracts females don't change. I've attracted feminist girls by saying things that feminism despises, like "I am looking for a stay at home housewife". They would get angry and, to their confusion, attracted. Girls have confusedly told me "I never imagined we'd end up like this" while I was fucking them. Just make sure you don't waste your time with one if want to have children. They'll find every possible reason to postpone pregnancy until it's too late.
Bulozi 4y ago
"I never imagined we'd up like this" with a dick down her throat, haha lol, love it.
So in terms of attraction it doesn't really mean anything, game still works? Am guessing its much like how publicly devoted church girls fall for game just as easy. I was once told "it doesn't matter what her beliefs are or how serious she is with God, she is still a woman." Funny I was actually a Youth Pastor who'd said that.
master-of-losers 4y ago
In terms of attracting girls, their beliefs (about feminism, god, staying loyal to a boyfriend, ...) don't matter much, standard game works.
If you want to not just attract but also fuck them, their beliefs may help or hinder you. Feminists are easier to fuck because they believe that being slutty is a basic human right. Religious girls may be harder because they may feel guilty about it. There is huge variation between individual girls though, these are just general trends.
Bulozi 4y ago
Feminists are easier to fuck? Damn, never thought of it like that. It does check out though seeing as feminists are the same ones who advocate for bs like women being free to wear as few clothes as they wish coz it's their body lol. I think we should encourage feminism, coz it'll give redpillers more time to focus on making money while still getting pussy regularly
master-of-losers 4y ago
I personally prefer the harder-to-get girls. Feminists have high body counts and stretched pussies. I also feel a deeper emotional connection to traditional girls, which makes the sex much more amazing. Feminists will be busy pursuing their career while traditional girls are busy cooking and knitting for you.
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NeoSpartan 4y ago
That's true, and I am someone who fits the first example. But... you still don't have to put in much effort to have sex with non slutty girls ime... could be only true if you give off a certain vibe though I guess. But all girls like sex, they don't have to be sluts. The way to approach the non-sluts is much diff though. Sluts are usually very immature and respond well to lies and extreme levels of confidence bordering very closely on arrogance if not well into it. Mostly because they are stupid imo XD I think many sluts eventually become real feminists after age 30 or so because of this. Eventually they reflect on their life choices, get super depressed and then overcompensate. Just a theory tho.
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Bulozi 4y ago
By that definition, almost every girl is a slut to Chad since they're easy to have sex with for him (high SMV). I think the point isn't so much how you approach sluts vs non-sluts, end of the day they all want sex just like everyone else. Its a matter of building enough attraction with them for them to have that sex WITH YOU. I mean, you'll be amazed at how many guys are turned down by the same girls you view as "easy sluts"
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NeoSpartan 4y ago
I disagree. If you do the boyfriend thing with them it doesn't feel like they are sluts even if they have sex with you quickly. At least to me. Sluts are the girls at bars who will bang you in the first hour of meeting you. Even nice girls will have sex quick in 2021, it's expected these days. I think they feel like if they don't you will lose interest or something. It's not the 1950s anymore. Perceived expectations are different.
NeoSpartan 4y ago
I dunno, I'm a nice guy and I can get laid pretty easy anyways. Dunno about feminism, never talk politics with girls. Some of them probably were, but it never came up and I don't wanna hear it anyway. Just lead everything, it's not hard, most girls prefer to follow. I don't think they give af about orbiters, it seems to be just a self esteem crutch for them. Maybe if they get dumped one of the orbiters will get a bang so she can feel better about herself, but will actually probably feel worse about herself after she does that. So I guess that's what orbiters are hoping for. Probably happens sometimes. Life is crazy man. We live in strange times. I think most feminists are just confused though, seems more of a cope than a true belief to me.
delesseyM 4y ago
Damn you sound like a real Chad!
NeoSpartan 4y ago
Nah, I'm too short to be a chad lol. I'm down a level or two from that. Closer to an 8 than a 10. I've just been dating a lot recently so I've noticed a few things since I've been interacting with a lot of different women in the last couple months.
Bulozi 4y ago
Alright makes sense. Its like all these belief systems are basically filters. Real men are undeterred, they simply cut through the noise and feast, while the betas will either be intimidated by or join the noisy masses in hopes for acceptance and hopefully getting laid. Its basically 21st Century Natural Selection.
NeoSpartan 4y ago
Exactly. Human nature is basically the same as it's always been. Girls do not like dad bods lmao, saw that in the media recently, that claim. That's the kind of idiotic crap some might get bogged down by if they listen to journalists and media people, but most journalists are trash and bitter failures at life. The majority of girls like the same thing they've liked for thousands of years, warriors. Warrior bod, warrior attitude. Where some people get it twisted is they think they can't be nice because #niceguys are trash. Not true, quality, mentally undamaged women want to feel safe with you, they want to have sex with you too, but don't want to feel rushed about it or that this is all you want from them, doesn't mean it wont happen quickly or that you have to wait, women like sex too, a lot. Found this when I just did a google search on sneaky fuckers because I was thinking about betas. https://thestoa.substack.com/p/beware-of-the-sneaky-fuckers skimmed it, seems good. The reason the nice guy strat doesn't work for betas is it's because it's disingenuous and the dudes who use it are weak in temperament. It works for me and others like me because I'm being genuine when I do it. Most women are pretty perceptive. It's not that they are super smart in the conventional sense. Their brains are just wired better for reading people on average, because of evolution or w/e. Men hunt, women nest, and nesting is an innately social activity so their brains have developed to be attuned to that sort of thing. And the men who look and seem like the best hunters are going to be the most attractive to them. It's hardcoded into our DNA.
Bulozi 4y ago
Oh yeah pretty standard info, completely agree. But could you elaborate a bit on the Nice Guy vs Warrior narrative. Aren't they sort of pollar opposites, nice guys don't necessarily hunt do they? I'm having a hard time imagining a Nice Guy also being an alpha. Also are you like employing/perfecting an art of being a Nice Guy who's just as dangerous as an Alpha Chad? That's intriguing, how does that work?
NeoSpartan 4y ago
I think I'm a pretty nice guy and I hunt. We are omnivores and we eat animals, you still are responsible for killing an animal if you buy meat at the store and veganism is unnatural for humans and makes you weak.
I don't mean nice as is taking shit from people, if people fuck you with you gotta do it right back and harder unless you want to live life as a target but if people are good to you it doesn't make sense not to do the same in return. You can be either thing depending on the situation you know.
I'm not trying to perfect any art lol, I just don't like being mean to people who don't deserve it, it's not some contrived thing I'm doing. I will say that if you've never been in a real fight, you are missing out on something important though. I think a lot of people probably have never been in a fight these days and have a lot of fear inside of them because of that. Fights aren't that bad, and don't really happen after age 20 or so anyway. But having some experience with getting injured changes your attitude a bit I think. Alphaness is more about bravery imo, and you can be both nice and brave. Just don't be nice to people who aren't nice to you, because that's definitely simp shit.