We rate women from 1 to 10 and I suppose we/they should be able to rate ourselves similarly.
My explication of the scoring system is basically this: women fall into these broad categories
- The unfuckable (1-3)
- The barely fuckable (4-6)
- The very fuckable (7-9)
- The ideal (10)
What constitutes a woman's score from a man's perspective is a matter of personal taste and I would guess it would vary a lot but there would be large overlaps.
A particular man may like the Mila Kunis/Katherine Zeta Jones look, described thus: Diamond shaped face, lustrous dark hair and dark eyes, swarthy glowing skin. These men may also like a pale blond woman such as Gwyneth Paltrow but with a weaker preference. That is to say in a bar where Mila Kunis and Gwyneth Paltrow are standing 10 ft from each other, our guy will hit on Mila Kunis. To him Mila is a 10, Gwyneth is a 8 or 9.
His buddy on the other hand, may have the opposite preference and would hit on Gwyneth because she is more attractive to him (relatively).
However, there are several qualities that are universal indicators of beauty, regardless of age/race/body&face type and you could use a rating system based on these for an objective measure of beauty.
- Facial symmetry & proportionate facial features. (Nose isn't too large, lips aren't too thin)
- proportionate, fit body
- glowing skin and lustrous hair
Rate each above from 0 to 3: grotesque/deformed:0, poor:1, average: 2, great: 3 Add them up, that's her score. Nobody automatically gets a 10 using the system above. They have to be exceptional. With practice, you can get a consistent score and do it effortlessly.
Now that you can measure girls, its time to score yourself. Don't bother asking anyone, since physical appearance is not everything for a male. Instead, we use price discovery from the sexual market:
Bid: Consider the women that shamelessly flirt with you. Are they a 4 or 5? If so, your SMV is above theirs. These should be women with whom maintaining frame is effortless.
Ask: Consider the women that bring out your beta tendencies. Are they a 7 or 8? If so, your SMV is below theirs. These should be women who spark anxiety (however slight) when you interact with them.
Take the highest bid and the lowest ask. Your SMV is in between. In our example above, you are probably (5+7)/2=6.
Track this measure and watch it improve as the redpill screams down your esophagus towards your stomach.
Beardsman2 11y ago
It doesn't work for me. No women flirt shamelessly with me and no girls bring out my beta tendencies. The girls I date are 7s and 8s but I don't offer them any sort of relationship/commitment so I figure that means I'm at least as high as them.
no_face 11y ago
Yes it does.
2FAM0US 11y ago
haha stop pedastalizing that pussy cat. if you ever wake up the morning after with that "HB10 from the bar" and see what she actually looks like, it will make you rethink your system.
LastRevision 11y ago
I've always wondered, what does the "HB" stand for?
2FAM0US 11y ago
"hot bitch" its left over Bro-speak from the misc
LastRevision 11y ago
There is a lot of quality content to TRP and a lot of truth in the red pill, but sometimes I wish we would leave a lot of the terminology behind because I think it hurts our credibility with outsiders.
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Caring how credible we are to outsiders will be the root of destruction for red pill.
We have controversial ideas but they work. Change for the mainstream, become the mainstream.
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2FAM0US 11y ago
they're all lower quality than you think. don't fall for it
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FindMitch 11y ago
get muscles. get red pill. get fashion advice. get hair done nice. get money. get lots of friends. get talking. get flirtatious. get sexual. get a woman. get several women. get a rotation of women.
let's be frank, in most cases appearance dominates attraction. if you're ugly or lacking in that department, then you have to put in a large amount of effort into your other categories. don't just work out, lift to get big and ripped. don't just dress nicer, look at fashion advice and latest trends and dress fashion forward. use those clothes to accentuate your newly built masculine figure. have an opportunity to make more money? take it. make some cash and invest that cash wisely. let it be known that you got money and sprinkle a few hints here and there; shiny new car, nice watch, etc (stay within your means). lastly is your red pill behavior combined with seduction techniques. master that shit. don't just approach, push yourself to get closes. some girl being a bitch? give her a piece of your mind and nuke her ego, define your boundaries and punish her. some chick playing games or being flaky? dread game that shit. flirt with her friends, bang other girls and let her find out about it. on your first date? - invite her back to your place or invite yourself to her place no matter what, push towards sex.
don't play fair anymore. have a nice body. have a fashion-forward wardrobe. waive around your money. treat them as if their thoughts and opinions don't phase you. understand their emotions and toy with them. manipulate them.
rico_montoya 11y ago
If you're not pouring hours professionally, intellectually, or physically to become a '10 male' you're doing TRP wrong
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Good shit. Shameless flirting and giving you anxiety are good indicators of leagues.
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The OP seems completely ignorant of those. I went from shivering around 3/10s with nervousness to being smooth mcgee around 8-9s... the difference? A bit of anti anxiety medication.
SQQQ 11y ago
i just want to point out that physical beauty and beauty alone determines a woman's SMV. in particular, her education, income and status adds nothing to SMV.
however, women often mistaken their LMV (labour market value, AKA their salary) as their SMV and wrongfully conclude a 30yr old professional woman is sexier than a gorgeous 18.
therefore, when you are using price discovery method, you should not lower your own score just because a career woman looks down on you.
Mymobileacoconut 11y ago
This is a great indicator. If a girl breaks my frame, she's out of my league.
Thank you.
CodeineCowboy 11y ago
This is kind of a bad way of looking at it. More like, if a girl breaks your frame, you currently THINK she's out of your league, for the time being. That's how you process it, cause every hotter girl up the ladder has messed with my frame one way or another as my mind re-arranged its beliefs about myself and my value and theirs.
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Unless you have low confidence and despite being a solid 9/10 start freaking out around a 7/10.
Of course you can argue that this means your SMV is low because of your mental state. But I like to think overall value goes a deeper than a bit of surface anxiety.