Something occurred to me today. I was thinking about how TRP is perceived in greater Reddit. I've read all the straw man arguments. I have long wondered, why are so many people so repulsed by what's said on this sub? I think I've figured it out.
Women (and blue pill men) like lies. They want the fantasy. Men generally like the truth. Men will risk their lives to discover truth. Women? Women will hamster themselves to death.
Sure, these are generalities, but it explains the repulsion of this sub. It also explains a few other things:
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Bad Boys: I think a fundamental quality of the bad boy is that he lies. He pretends to be much tougher than he is. He pretends to be less vulnerable than he is. The bad boy is a lie embodied. Women love him. He is a fantasy and women love fantasy.
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Trigger warnings: What is a "trigger"? The truth. That's the trigger. Women are so repulsed by the truth, that they literally cannot tolerate it. The truth triggers an emotional meltdown.
- Hypergamy: Why would a woman pursue a man she has no chance with? Because she's living the fantasy. She deludes herself into believing a married man might leave his wife because she allows him to have sex. I'm not sure if anyone here read the Starr report regarding Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, but it fits. The fascinating part is that Monica truly believed she had some sort of chance with Bill and kept pursuing him. As men, we're shocked when we can attract a 9. Women? Why not the President?
So, guys, opinions on this? Maybe in the future there will be "truth zones" where people are free to speak their mind without fear of punishment? Right now, the Internet is semi-close to this concept and on subs like this one the truth can be spoken. But we all know that this won't last.

Ultimativity 11y ago
Truth is a huge turn off to the women I know
Xein 12y ago
Women are more likely to subscribe to religion, fate, and supernatural beliefs than men. Studies show it time and time again. The quote I despise the most, "Everything happens for a reason", is the anthem of women everywhere.
Metaphysical beliefs are comforting and emotional - Your good deeds are rewarded in life, god always forgives you if you are truly sorry (there are no consequences for your actions), evil people will burn in hell for an eternity, kids with terminal cancer are going on to serve a greater purpose somewhere... the list goes on. Note that this kind of thinking also removes personal responsibility for choices and actions. If you think that "everything happens for a reason" or "fate" or "god has a plan for me", then literally nothing that happens is ever your fault or due to you making a bad choice.
Get serious. The red pill tastes like shit and gags you all the way down. Before you can get it down you even try to throw it back up. The truth hits harder than anything. Read GLO's post about "The Real". Yes, you get to know how things really are, but in exchange, you have to deal with the emotional firestorm that comes with it. Basically, you sacrifice short-term pain for long-term gain. A choice that only rational and strong willed minds can make. Humans are wired to act on pleasurable impulses.
Let me paint a picture of a BP friend I have and after looking at this snapshot, think about the emotional devastation this man would endure if he could accept even a fraction of the truth we discuss here.
Another unsuccessful night out for him.. Girls he approached were cold, dismissive, and unresponsive, not to mention several SMV points above him. The chick he was buying shots for all night has gone home with "some douchebag". The sexual drought continues. Knowing my friend I could give him a list of issues to fix. Looking him over I see a body that's been crapped on by years of booze, junk food, and inactivity. Style that begs to be dragged out of the early 00's. An attitude that believes "being nice" will get me laid, even though I am bringing little to the table and am not particularly interesting to talk to.
I don't say anything yet. He inevitably opens with "Man, why's it always some douchebag that goes home with the girl. I'm such a nice guy! I'm a good dude! I don't understand it. I just want a hot girl that's into me!"
A million things come to mind. But all I can do is pause, take a swig of beer and say "Fuckin bitches man".
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It seems that women would rather live in a fantasy world than the real one. And so, they need someone to set them straight.
p3ndulum 12y ago
Make-up, push-up bras, hair dye, press-on nails, colegen and breast implants, high-heels, etc. Almost everything about women is fake - what the fuck would they know about "truth"?
[deleted] 12y ago
Men lie as well. The trp game is a lie.
p3ndulum 12y ago
Oh this should be good.
Please elaborate.
[deleted] 12y ago
Nah I just think its stupid how women and men are being generalized. Not everyone women wear hair dye, press on nails or have breast implants. Not almost everything about a women is fake. I just think that this is the reason people on reddit hate TRP because its literally bashes all women with some stereotypes
p3ndulum 12y ago
You go to /r/feminism to defend their attacks on "the patriarchy", too, right?
I bet you do. You definitely seem like that kind of person.
[deleted] 12y ago
nah i dont
p3ndulum 12y ago
So you have a body made out of penis, but a mind made out of vagina.
lolyzor 12y ago
yeah try it sometimes you will be suprised
[deleted] 12y ago
She can't. Trp isn't In her nature.
dropit_reborn 12y ago
It's not that women don't value truth, they just don't value it as highly, relative to other things.
[deleted] 12y ago
We are blowing over the covers of their fantasies. They don't like the sudden realization to the truth that we bring in their faces.
Shit like this makes you think about why the bible is constantly showing women down. Not just the bible, every religious text out there.
Blood_Vaults 12y ago
The ancients realized that controlling a woman's hypergamous instincts is the key to a great civilization. For if you don't one stray spark will start a great fire that will leave you with nothing but ashes in the wake.
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And then you need to bring down the hammer of justice. Which they will call claim is a phallic symbol of oppression.
GOD! The imagination on these bitches. Its unbelievable.
Blood_Vaults 12y ago
Perhaps... If the symbol was more phallic it would be considered a blessing?
[deleted] 12y ago
like a dildo. Oh, how liberating those are!
[deleted] 12y ago
"Greater Reddit" - As a german, i kinda like this term.... WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?
[deleted] 12y ago
This is 100% spot on. Should be stickied.
FloranHunter 12y ago
Trigger warnings are stimuli that cause a panic attack from PTSD. The fuckheads of the tumblrverse have done actual victims a disservice.
SgtBrutalisk 12y ago
As feminists usually do, they've hijacked an actual problem for their own agenda.
Blood_Vaults 12y ago
Being a victim is a status symbol in today's western world. Accountability is a virtue that it to be scorned and spurned with the utmost impunity. Big Daddy Gubbymint will save us from ourselves.
PoopSmearMoustache 12y ago
And you could never teach someone to take accountability when they have learnt to thrive on the endless free validation system. Hell, I would love to believe I'm very valuable just like everyone else, regardless of my actions, but I can't bring myself to logically do it.
How can I get one of these hamsters installed?
enticingasthatmaybe 12y ago
Factory option only
Duh_Mad_Botanist 12y ago
Good Lord! Everything about most women is a lie. Between hair products, makeup, push-up bras, spanx, & cosmetic surgery they project nothing but a lie. Then, they rate and congratulate each other on their camouflage. And that's just the superficial aspect. I will say there were a few I've known that were just as attractive waking up as any other time. They more often turned out to be the keepers and were generally more honest.
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We_Are_Legion 12y ago
Some people can't be bothered to be anything more than complacent. They will seek every excuse to reject truth, because it requires them to get off their ass and take responsibility for their failures.
And make no mistake, readers(especially the ones in earlier RP stages), practically every single one of your relationships that ever ended in failure, barring acts of fate, is your fault.
A man can judge if his woman isn't up to his standards, or isn't worth the effort to bring up to his standards. The reverse is not supposed to be true. Not if you're doing it right. I don't believe in "out of your league" bullshit anymore.
You are responsible for creating the "love", infatuation and fantasy she wants to live in. You are responsible for making the magic happen. For every single plate/girlfriend/wife/whatever you have had, have or will have.
There are exceptions, sure, but they're analogous to un-winnable situations in chess. They exist... but only if you let it get to that point in the first place. Start thinking right from move 1, gentlemen. Or even before.
Get better at the game.
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pillburt 12y ago
"Slut shaming is wrong! Those red pill guys are such fucking losers for commenting on the sexual history of women. I bet they've never gotten laid before..."
SgtBrutalisk 12y ago
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iamnotfromtexas90 12y ago
related to why men 'try to fix things' while women just want to 'talk and be listened to'
mr_throwz 12y ago
I learned at a young age that "truth" is a low priority for most women.
EducatedCavemen 12y ago
Promise a woman heaven and she will raise hell for you. Guaranteed.
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“The fence you have been straddling for two hours-while hearing my words and seeking to escape them-is the coward’s formula contained in the sentence: ‘But we don’t have to go to extremes!’ The extreme you have always struggled to avoid is the recognition that reality is final, that A is A and that the truth is true. A moral code impossible to practice, a code that demands imperfection or death, has taught you to dissolve all ideas in fog, to permit no firm definitions, to regard any concept as approximate and any rule of conduct as elastic, to hedge on any principle, to compromise on any value, to take the middle of any road. By extorting your acceptance of supernatural absolutes, it has forced you to reject the absolute of nature. By making moral judgments impossible, it has made you incapable of rational judgment. A code that forbids you to cast the first stone, has forbidden you to admit the identity of stones and to know when or if you’re being stoned." - A.R.
[deleted] 12y ago
Umm, Hanna Arendt? She's not as much a mainstream philosopher as Rand, but extremely insightful nonetheless.
OldSnuggie 12y ago
That is farthest from the actual truth you libertarian-beta bitch.
sir_wankalot_here 12y ago
Truth is a low priority for human beings in general
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sir_wankalot_here 12y ago
Exactly. How many men have realistic hopes/desires but fail to do anything about them ? Probably 90%+.
Yesterday is a classic example. I went for a fairly long hike. I run into a friend of mine who has the potential to be better looking then me, but looks like a white pasty tub of goo. He asked me how many miles I hiked, I said I don't know I was going for 2+ hours. He then stated that I am in good shape, and he wishes he was in better shape. I said I was in a lot better shape when I was younger, this fellow is 30%+ younger then me.
He then asks how to get into shape. Really simple, start exercising I tell him. Out comes the hamstering, he doesn't have time, it is too hard to get up early, his legs hurt, etc. But meanwhile he has lots of time to sit and whine.
I decided to have a beer afterwards, I dropped into a bar I know. Flirted with the female bartender who is like 40% my age, mainly to piss off her beta orbiter. I must have really pissed him off, because before pretty boy left, he told me "You are cool".
[deleted] 12y ago
More like 20%, but they reap 80% of the benefits by doing so.
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[deleted] 12y ago
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is radically opposed.
Third, it is accepted as self evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer
redpilltree 12y ago
I remember in the Matrix people had an unconscious choice whether to accept the Matrix or not.
99% or so accepted the Matrix and 1% didn't.
I used to think that was an absurd statistic but the more and more I expose myself to people, the less absurd it seems.
sir_wankalot_here 12y ago
99% seems about right :-) Best example is gun control, there is no link between gun control and crime rates. As Sam Colt said, God created man, I made them equal.
Look at the biggest advocates of gun control. Usually they are women and wimpy beta males, basically the people who would benefit the most from a permit to carry. Bubba who weights 300+lbs is 6'10" doesn't need a gun. Logically speaking Bubba should be pro gun control, since a gun enables a 5'0" woman to stop Bubba from raping her.
So the only explanation I can come up with is 99% of the population enjoys being a victim.
netwalker11 12y ago
Real world evidence disagrees. More guns, less crime.
Forbes: Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet
[FBI UCR, 2011] (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/violent-crime/violent-crime)
[FBI Crime Statistics Year over Year, Jan-Jun] (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2013/tables/table_3_january_to_june_2012-2013_percent_change_for_consecutive_years.xls)
sir_wankalot_here 12y ago
There is no correlation between gun control and crime. There is a strojg correlation between poverty and crime. Switzerland has no gun control, there is virtually no crime there. Less then 1% of the population makes less then $22 per hour :-)
Poverty world wide is on average decreasing, so crime will be decreasing world wide. So any law passed will show a decrease in crime.
Actually the real reason world wide crime is dropping is because every day for the last ten years I prayed really hard. And look at the world wide murder rate statistics, they have dropped. Now all of you stupid fucks send me 10% of your income, or I will stop praying and you all will be crime victims.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/27/Harvard-Study-Shows-No-Correlation-Between-Strict-Gun-Control-And-Less-Crime-Violence
netwalker11 12y ago
"In fact, the numbers presented in the Harvard study support the contention that among the nations studied, those with more gun control tend toward higher death rates."
scarfox1 12y ago
I don't know, better gun control in Canada and seems to be less crime, but I'd have to look at the per 100,000
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Blood_Vaults 12y ago
Freud suggested that a fear of firearms is a sign of sexual and emotional retardation. For bonus points, describe two groups this most aptly describes!
p000f 12y ago
As much as Freud has meant to psychotherapy, some of his theories are irrelevant today. This is one.
Blood_Vaults 12y ago
How so?
I've never met a man that was uncomfortable with firearms that didn't come across as unreliable and callow, to put it gently.
pillburt 12y ago
Holy shit, that's a great observation.
ROTHSCHILD_GOON_1913 12y ago
man, this is a great post. i've had the exact same thoughts. i think it's important to emphasize that most men can be described in this exact same way. seriously, people who really, actually want to know (and live) truth are incredibly rare.
to me, the red pill isn't just about recognizing these submissive, slavey behaviors and attitudes in women. it's about recognizing them in the vast majority of people, all throughout society, male and female, gay and straight, etc. most people are genuinely weak, afraid of the truth, and in desperate, constant need of external authority and validation. that is the red pill - and you either swallow it or you don't.
[deleted] 12y ago
Wow there are some major truth bombs being dropped in here. Love it
Redpillc0re 12y ago
Stop putting them in the same basket. There are very few guys who can be held to the same level as women in terms of hamstering. Blue pill = low sexual value male or follower. Maybe fatally brainwashed to live in a disney society, but men are less likely to hamster once a strong leader shows them the way. Women never do.
monkeylizard 12y ago
I'm a man and I hate truth.
Thanaton 12y ago
Yes, and as Michael Savage says, "the truth has a certain ring to it" and while we men may not like the truth, we recognize it when we are hit in the face with it, as evidenced by our presence in this sub.
Women absolutely refuse to face a hard truth unless it's put forth by a man they respect.
monkeylizard 12y ago
I think you misunderstand me. When I say I hate truth, I don't mean that I recognize that the truth is hard and then face it anyway. I mean that I willfully indulge in fantasy and madness. I don't think that I or anyone else has a special dispensation to access the truth, or recognize it when it is presented. After Gödel, we have no right to believe that truth is a real thing.
Sonmi 451: "Truth is singular. Its 'versions' are mistruths." But since singular 'truth' is inaccessible, all our access to reality is via mistruths. They may not be large ones (or maybe they are), but if our convictions are founded upon the premise that we know what is true and not, small lies will unmake them.
stemgang 12y ago
Ah, the old "there is no such thing as truth" or "it is unknowable" argument.
Undermining the foundation of all philosophy and science since forever.
And no matter how much it is "disproven," the preference for agnosis is non-falsifiable, just like Deism, and will persist as long as there are men for who the "Truth" is inconvenient.
Don't get me wrong; we all indulge in convenient non-belief from time to time. But when it's time to get things done, nothing beats evidence and repeatability.
monkeylizard 12y ago
I'm all for buttoning my hat when push comes to shove, but the preference for inductive reasoning is just as unfalsifiable as the preference for agnosis. Why believe that something will happen a certain way? Because you've always observed it to do so. But why believe that just because something always has happened that way that it will do so again? Well, because observation suggests that when a trend is established, it's more likely to continue than not to. But this is of course itself an observation of a trend: you wind up using empirical reasoning to support the validity of empirical reasoning, which seems a little bit mad.
Now at heart, I'm an empiricist myself, but I just want to impress upon you that you are in fact making a philosophical choice when you decide to draw a conclusion based on evidence you observe. The scientific method isn't a magic shortcut to skip sticky questions like that. It's a way of addressing questions within the framework of certain assumptions, the most central of which is that experiential evidence is meaningful with respect to predicting future outcomes. But even if you accept that premise, you're still going to be wrong a lot of the time, because the evidence you've amassed usually isn't as overwhelming as you think it is. Anytime you think you really understand something, think of Einstein, and beware of your convictions.
fucktart 12y ago
This argument is weakened by understanding mathematics, specifically Bayesian probability. As the number of times you observe a given outcome increases, so does the probability that your observations accurately reflect reality.
Empirical evidence is definably meaningful in predicting future outcomes. It is never 100% reliable, but you just have to decide what is "good enough".
monkeylizard 12y ago
This is exactly the premise I'm challenging. I'm not saying it's false; I'm saying that to make "rational observations" about the world, you have to accept it as an axiom. You're presenting it as something that's self-evident, when in reality it is something that we choose to believe as part of our definition of the framework of rules by which we understand the nature of our reality. From a rational standpoint it would be just as valid to take as axiomatic that everything we perceive is an illusion, and therefore observations of past events can have no power to predict future ones. Of course, this would be unfalsifiable, but not more so than the empirical notion: to verify or falsify anything, you need to use the idea that general trends can be extrapolated from repeated observation, but since this is exactly the notion that you want to verify or falsify, your argument becomes absurdly circular. You can't prove that rationality is a valid accessor to truth; you simply have to choose to believe it, and you then have to accept the fact that you have done so. (If you like mathematics: it's like the axiom of choice in that way.)
Blood_Vaults 12y ago
Vouching for the bad boy myth. These dudes are frightened little children covered in tribal tattoos, wife beaters, and shaved heads. They do have a particular success rate with impressionable women, however.
aphelion3342 12y ago
Bad boys are truth personified. If you piss them off, they will fuck you up. Most of the time, a nice guy will hold his emotions back and swallow it.
theozoph 12y ago
Everybody lies. — Dr. Gregory House
scarfox1 12y ago
Just posting this in here randomly, but I've been reading RP literature and, it seems this all applies to very attractive women only. Unattractive or less attractive women have to redesign their own game, realizing it is not working or they believe it won't work due to some trauma. Then, they believe they only deserve their own equally unattractive man or less. New rewiring is used to get good looking men but only will be reinforced if they acquire a few.
COBETCKNN17 12y ago
A lying man is a confident man.
BluepillProfessor 12y ago
I came here on the title ready with my white armor but you convinced me with just a few words. It also explains President Obama.
symko 12y ago
When you hear it and it makes you feel good, it's a lie. When you hear it and there is a harshness to it, it's the truth. Most shit that women have told me made me feel good.
Be Aware.
Teeth_of_Lions 12y ago
Men like truth and women don't? Women do not like lies any more than men. Women just process truth differently. Truth requires feeling and belief. Now filter it through a female brain.
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It's not that women like lies. They just don't like knowing they're being lied to. Nobody does but at the same time, very few people are receptive to the truth. If you're an old man or simply a man who has sex with many women, they're not getting their hooks into you. Now when have people taken a man's word to matter if they thought he was a loser with women? Think about it.