Even when his lack of frame is pointed out by the girl, he still wont get it. He'll keep doing what he's been doing so far while expecting a different outcome. They'll both be stuck in this cycle of hell and never get out of it due to their lack of self awareness.

We're lucky to be redpilled. Thank Zeus for this community.

This is a difficult lesson for many men.

A woman does not want a man who is focused on making the woman happy. A woman wants a man who is focused on making himself happy, and in doing so sweeps the woman up into his fun and his happiness.

If a woman is sad, she wants to forget her sadness and use a man's happiness as a tool to do this. She does not want a man moping around dwelling on her sadness, trying to fix her or change the way she feels. Women want to have fun. Dwelling on their sadness is not fun.

This is not to say that pissing all over the way a woman feels is effective. That is just being a jerk. But focusing on your own happiness and bringing a woman into that happiness, which is often regarded as being an "asshole" for some reason, is very effective.

Alright I’ll bite. So obviously the man should STFU and hold frame. They are in a relationship and this is a comfort/shit test mixed in one.

My question is, PRACTICALLY speaking, what should he (in the LTR) do? With plates I just exit if she keeps on crying about her day, I’m here to see her and not to solve her issues, it’s on her to be presentable to me. I’d tell her bitching is unattractive and it is what it is. I don’t think this is correct in an LTR?

Those of you who LTR and are good at comfort tests, what do you do? Every girl I’ve met has a tendency to bitch about something, regardless of your frame your girl will cry about something stupid. Eventually after STFU-ing she’ll ask you to say something back - what do you say? ‘Man that sucks’? Wouldn’t you then be in her frame? Do you change the subject? Make a sexual joke?

What a beta male, if your wife is sad and depressed, don’t act like her. You should hold frame, she should see you as something to hold onto.

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TL:DR Women want you to be the emotional rock to help them weather their emotional rollercoaster of life.

what's interesting about that thread, is even when the comments give OP the right answer, don't mirror her emotions, they still cannot make the distinction between a man's role and a woman's.

everyone is equal, right?

so OP is left with either acting like a woman, or like a sociopath. No one suggests, just be a fucking man.

But... she said I have to BE EMPATHIC! an' show MA FEELINGS! And cry if I feel like! Why did she leave?

Funny that you bring this subject, I'm reading and listening to a lot of high IQ high profile people who talks about sex, current sexual market, dating and relationship. And the only think that everyone dismiss and refuse to acknowledge is this: AF/BB.

AF/BB, meaning a woman fucking you for your looks/dominance/game vs for your provisioning/status is the fucking biggest bug of the current matrix.

This top rated comment also shows why he needs to man up and be a rock.

Sounds like she needs someone to lean on in those moments, and if you're down there in the pit with her it's difficult for her to feel supported. You end up making her sadness about you and your response to it rather than allowing her to feel what she needs to feel and telling her that it's okay for her to feel what she needs to feel and letting her know that you're okay with her feeling what she needs to feel, that you know stuff sucks but the two of you will be all right.

It's exhausting to be sad and have to manage someone else's response to it.

Even the bluepilled comment section is hating on him.

the main problem are the men who never learn, they get into a paradox of constantly relating with women on such a level that it becomes a part of them and the only way to connect with a woman

Empathy is a natural mechanism that every developed individual should have. Mirror neurons are developed in your childhood.

If you don't, you're unable to read social cues and that's what happens with socially retarded GenZ people.

You will feel something, the mirror neurons in your brain are wired to work like that. The point is to stay in control of your emotions, not trying to repress them somehow because it's not possible.

When the man is happy, the woman is happy. It is hard for a woman to be happy on her own and if she is, she doesn't need the guy. The man needs to lead the relationship with his actions and emotionally. Mirroring your girl's emotions is exactly what not to do because it will make both you and your girl unhappy.

It makes it about him- if he is good, and she still isn't unhappy - it makes her feel like she is in the wrong - dat some autistic shit right there.

Be ook with being the bad guy. Women need something to cause their effects.

A woman is like an ocean and a proper man must be the wall that never breaks when the waves hit it.