With all the hullaboo about the coronavirus, I wanted to share an interesting fact about human nature: Women are repelled by beta males not just because they are unattractive and undesirable, but also because betas are disgusting. I don’t mean disgusting in the colloquial “that guys sucks and let’s laugh at him” sense – I mean, that women actually subconsciously see betas as possible carriers of infectious disease, and this subconscious perception in women activates their disgust reflex which makes them want to flee the presence of beta males.
I always wondered why women were repelled by betas. Everybody knows why women are not attracted to betas: They are weak, unreliable, needy, annoying, useless, manipulative, etc… But why do women seem to want to actively avoid the company of betas, even when the betas are not hitting on them or being needy?
I found the answer when I started studying the work of Jonathan Haidt in the field of disgust. Here is a good article on the subject: http://people.stern.nyu.edu/jhaidt/articles/haidt.2003.elevation-and-positive-psychology.pub026.html.
Psychologists have known for a long time that humans evolved to feel disgust at certain types of elicitors relating to food, animals, body products, sexuality, body envelope violations (including gore and bleeding), death, hygiene, interpersonal contamination, and social disgust. But Haidt introduced a new emotion that he deems to be the “opposite of disgust”: elevation.
Haidt discovered that human beings equate disgust with one’s status in the tribe and in the dominance hierarchy. The more disgusting you are, the lower you are in the dominance hierarchy and the further you are kept by the others from the center of the tribe, because you are more likely to be infected with infectious diseases. The less disgusting and the more “elevated” you are, the more likely you are to be in the center of the tribe. This makes sense – human beings evolved to want to keep contaminated individuals – or individuals that appeared to be at risk of contamination – on the fringes of the tribe. Almost all cultures have taboos about purity, and things like status, holiness, or importance are often equated with purity.
A person who feels elevation is more likely to feel positive emotion and want to help others. A person who feels disgust feels negative emotion and wants to attack or escape others. Studies have shown that people with right-wing beliefs often have a greater disgust sensitivity, which is why they want to close borders and limit contact with “outsiders.” Right wing beliefs are also more likely to predominate in countries with a high rate of infectious disease. I surmise that this coronavirus pandemic will result in a rise in right-wing governments over the next several years.
Women have evolved a much stronger disgust sensitivity than men, which is why they are more likely to be well-kept and have good hygiene. Of course, women can be disgusting as well, but usually when a woman is disgusting that is a sign that there are massive problems in her life. It makes sense that women are more disgusting: because they naturally see themselves on the fringe of the tribe where the infected individuals are, they are more eager to escape the fringe and be accepted by the inner circle. Furthermore, because men are more likely to venture outside the territory of the tribe to kill food and bring it back to the tribe, women need a higher sensitivity to ensure that they do not come into contact with a contaminated man.
Selectivity
The key to avoiding infectious disease is by being selective about what types of elicitors you come into contact with. Humans evolved the disgust reflex as a way to be selective. This fresh fruit is good to eat, this food with maggots is not. This woman with a clean vag is good to have sex with, this woman with boils on her vag is not. This person smells good and is therefore fine to be around, this person stinks and is not. Etc…, As you can see from the coronavirus panic, selectivity about where you go, who you interact with, what you eat, and what you do is crucial to protecting yourself from infectious disease. And this desire to be selective is wired into our genes.
People love to laugh at purity taboos in religions. Why, in Islam or Judaism, is it bad to eat pork but eating beef is fine? Well, we may never know the original reason for that rule, but the reason that rule persists is that people feel elevated by purposely being selective with their food. By being selective with these disgust elicitors people feel a sense of elevation even if their selectivity is irrational. The very act of selectivity elevates you.
In Practice
What does this mean in practice?
Well, obviously you need to keep immaculate hygiene. If you notice the kind of guys that super hot girls are with, they are usually extremely well-kept, often far beyond the average man. Their hair is well done, their clothes fit, they smell good, their beard is nicely trimmed – they are the opposite of disgusting. Most importantly, everything about his appearance is conscious and intentional – their posture is intentional, they are intentional in wear they are placing their hands and where they are looking, and every hair on their head is placed there intentionally. Even if they are going for a “messy” or punk-rock look, it is done intentionally.
But there is a deeper, more important thing to show that you are elevated rather than disgusting: you must be selective about everything, but especially about the nine primary elicitors: food, animals, body products, sexuality, body envelope violations (including gore and bleeding), death, hygiene, interpersonal contamination, and social disgust. If a woman feels like you will eat anything, have sex with anybody, go anywhere, or do anything, she will subconsciously feel like you are more likely to catch an infectious disease and are therefore disgusting. Like the holiness taboos, even if your selectivity is not necessarily rational or hygienically required, by being selective you subconsciously communicate that you are elevated and high-status. It does not necessarily matter WHAT you do, but the fact that you will not do anything.
We all know that if you let a woman ‘lead” the interaction, you will become less attractive to her. Women are attracted to confident, dominant men that can lead, and men who cannot do that are unattractive. But by letting her lead, you also communicate that you are disgusting because you are not selective about what you do and where you go. If you are with a woman who insists on taking the lead on something, you can break out of the trap by saying “I don’t do that” or “I won’t go there.” It may sound like you are being difficult or prissy, but your selectivity makes her more attracted to you.
Since I had this epiphany, I have ratcheted up my selectivity and disgust sensitivity to amazing results. I make more jokes about stuff being gross, about people not touching me, about not doing certain stuff or going certain places, and women react positively. Because men naturally have a lower disgust sensitivity than women, if you can ratchet up your perceived disgust sensitivity in front of women you can immediately stand out and gain an advantage.
And obviously, in the midst of this coronavirus epidemic, you should be very selective as to what you do, where you go, and who you come into contact with, not just for your own health and safety, but to raise your attractiveness to women.
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
Bruh can you post the post as a comment as it was removed.
Woujo 6y ago
With all the hullaboo about the coronavirus, I wanted to share an interesting fact about human nature: Women are repelled by beta males not just because they are unattractive and undesirable, but also because betas are disgusting. I don’t mean disgusting in the colloquial, “let’s laugh at him” sense – I mean, that women actually subconsciously see betas as possible carriers of infectious disease, and this subconscious perception in women activates their disgust reflex which makes them want to flee the presence of beta males.
I always wondered why women were repelled by betas. Everybody knows why women are not attracted to betas: They are weak, unreliable, needy, annoying, useless, manipulative, etc… But why do women seem to want to actively avoid the company of betas, even when the betas are not hitting on them or being needy?
I found the answer when I started studying the work of Jonathan Haidt in the field of disgust. Here is a good article on the subject: http://people.stern.nyu.edu/jhaidt/articles/haidt.2003.elevation-and-positive-psychology.pub026.html.
Psychologists have known for a long time that humans evolved to feel disgust at certain types of elicitors relating to food, animals, body products, sexuality, body envelope violations (including gore and bleeding), death, hygiene, interpersonal contamination, and social disgust. But Haidt introduced a new emotion that he deems to be the “opposite of disgust”: elevation.
Haidt discovered that human beings equate disgust with one’s status in the tribe and in the dominance hierarchy. The more disgusting you are, the lower you are in the dominance hierarchy and the further you are kept by the others from the center of the tribe, because you are more likely to be infected with infectious diseases. The less disgusting and the more “elevated” you are, the more likely you are to be in the center of the tribe. This makes sense – human beings evolved to want to keep contaminated individuals – or individuals that appeared to be at risk of contamination – on the fringes of the tribe. Almost all cultures have taboos about purity, and things like status, holiness, or importance are often equated with purity.
A person who feels elevation is more likely to feel positive emotion and want to help others. A person who feels disgust feels negative emotion and wants to attack or escape others. Studies have shown that people with right-wing beliefs often have a greater disgust sensitivity, which is why they want to close borders and limit contact with “outsiders.” Right wing beliefs are also more likely to predominate in countries with a high rate of infectious disease. I surmise that this coronavirus pandemic will result in a rise in right-wing governments over the next several years.
Women have evolved a much stronger disgust sensitivity than men, which is why they are more likely to be well-kept and have good hygiene. Of course, women can be disgusting as well, but usually when a woman is disgusting that is a sign that there are massive problems in her life. It makes sense that women are more disgusting: because they naturally see themselves on the fringe of the tribe where the infected individuals are, they are more eager to escape the fringe and be accepted by the inner circle. Furthermore, because men are more likely to venture outside the territory of the tribe to kill food and bring it back to the tribe, women need a higher sensitivity to ensure that they do not come into contact with a contaminated man.
Selectivity
The key to avoiding infectious disease is by being selective about what types of elicitors you come into contact with. Humans evolved the disgust reflex as a way to be selective. This fresh fruit is good to eat, this food with maggots is not. This woman with a clean vag is good to have sex with, this woman with boils on her vag is not. This person smells good and is therefore fine to be around, this person stinks and is not. Etc…, As you can see from the coronavirus panic, selectivity about where you go, who you interact with, what you eat, and what you do is crucial to protecting yourself from infectious disease. And this desire to be selective is wired into our genes.
People love to laugh at purity taboos in religions. Why, in Islam or Judaism, is it bad to eat pork but eating beef is fine? Well, we may never know the original reason for that rule, but the reason that rule persists is that people feel elevated by purposely being selective with their food. By being selective with these disgust elicitors people feel a sense of elevation even if their selectivity is irrational. The very act of selectivity elevates you.
In Practice
What does this mean in practice?
Well, obviously you need to keep immaculate hygiene. If you notice the kind of guys that super hot girls are with, they are usually extremely well-kept, often far beyond the average man. Their hair is well done, their clothes fit, they smell good, their beard is nicely trimmed – they are the opposite of disgusting. Most importantly, everything about his appearance is conscious and intentional – their posture is intentional, they are intentional in wear they are placing their hands and where they are looking, and every hair on their head is placed there intentionally. Even if they are going for a “messy” or punk-rock look, it is done intentionally.
But there is a deeper, more important thing to show that you are elevated rather than disgusting: you must be selective about everything, but especially about the nine primary elicitors: food, animals, body products, sexuality, body envelope violations (including gore and bleeding), death, hygiene, interpersonal contamination, and social disgust. If a woman feels like you will eat anything, have sex with anybody, go anywhere, or do anything, she will subconsciously feel like you are more likely to catch an infectious disease and are therefore disgusting. Like the holiness taboos, even if your selectivity is not necessarily rational or hygienically required, by being selective you subconsciously communicate that you are elevated and high-status. It does not necessarily matter WHAT you do, but the fact that you will not do anything.
We all know that if you let a woman ‘lead” the interaction, you will become less attractive to her. Women are attracted to confident, dominant men that can lead, and men who cannot do that are unattractive. But by letting her lead, you also communicate that you are disgusting because you are not selective about what you do and where you go. If you are with a woman who insists on taking the lead on something, you can break out of the trap by saying “I don’t do that” or “I won’t go there.” It may sound like you are being difficult or prissy, but your selectivity makes her more attracted to you.
Since I had this epiphany, I have ratcheted up my selectivity and disgust sensitivity to amazing results. I make more jokes about stuff being gross, about people not touching me, about not doing certain stuff or going certain places, and women react positively. Because men naturally have a lower disgust sensitivity than women, if you can ratchet up your perceived disgust sensitivity in front of women you can immediately stand out and gain an advantage.
And obviously, in the midst of this coronavirus epidemic, you should be very selective as to what you do, where you go, and who you come into contact with, not just for your own health and safety, but to raise your attractiveness to women.
user20180620 6y ago
Thanks for the repost. Interesting stuff.
You said you field tested this by racheting up your selectivity, and the women around you became more attracted. Can you indicated what arbitrary selectivity you chose to test in this way? E.g. what you began to express disgust at that you hadn't previously?
Woujo 6y ago
I'm not always acting disgusted. I'm just being more selective about everything. "I like this, not that." "I'll do this, not that." Etc...
user20180620 6y ago
Ok... I think I get it.
But this can be explained with normal red pill outcome Independence, no? As I'm, a man that rejects a woman's suggestion by definition is ok with her saying that is a deal breaker and walking away. So being selective is a sign of a high value man.
To zero in on the effects of the disgust mechanism, you'd have to not only be selective... But also Express that your choosiness is based on your being disgusted by something, rather than simply not preferring it.
E.g. Her: let's ride go carts. You: no... We'll play at the arcade.
Vs Her: let eat sushi You: no, raw fish is disgusting!
Thoughts?
Woujo 6y ago
There are 2 different things at play:
1) Women want a leader
and
2) Women want a guy that is selective.
But both of these are subconscious emotions in women, so you can't come out and say "I will not sushi because I am a leader and I am selective." You have to stay in charge of the agenda while simultaneously being smooth.
In reality, you will rarely have a woman setting the agenda. Once you make it clear you are the leader the woman will generally fall in line.
odue 6y ago
This sub is becoming retarded ...
FinalFormal2 6y ago
It is, but I don't think that this post is an example of it. There was a study done showing that pride is considered the most attractive emotional expression by women. To say that you wouldn't deign to something is to elevate yourself above it, which is attractive, and keeping good hygiene is also very good advice. (Also note that there's a difference between disgust and fear and a difference between saying that extreme sports are stupid and saying that they're dangerous. One makes you look like a pussy, one makes you look selective.)
The science is good and the advice is good. Not sure about the connection between the two, but it's not that much of a stretch to say that they might be connected.
You could criticize the post as being more focused on the science and the theory than the practical advice, but I don't think that that actually makes it retarded. The stuff that I consider retarded here is where either the science or the advice or both are bad.
What's your critique bro?
throwlaca 6y ago
Betas are dangerous. They see sexual rejection as an attack to their very self and ego, and that's why most rapists and stalkers are beta.
An alpha wouldn't even bat an eye facing a rejection, he knows he have 100 other girls to choose from. Girls know this and feel safer with an alpha.
TheEgyptianConqueror 6y ago
I wouldn't call Ted Bundy a beta...
throwlaca 6y ago
He was a psychopatic killer, not alpha or beta, we are talking about normal people here.
TheEgyptianConqueror 6y ago
By all accounts he was a good looking guy that did great with women. But he snapped when he got dumped by his first girlfriend. Just refuting your point about alphas not caring about rejection with an extreme example
clon3man 6y ago
I think you took this concept too far. People who care too much about their appearance are posers, girls can see right through that shit. Putting in too much effort on your appearance can lead to an anxiety disorder. Maybe if you're 15 fixing your hair is all girls notice but in reality nobody cares and/or every person's perception of hygiene is different. Most people have tunnel vision they only care about 1 thing teeth or hair or shoes you cant please everyone
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Rupturednutsack 6y ago
This is why women who don’t want smokers are that way. Smoking = smells + potential health detriment = unattractive
Can’t be mad at women for wanting the best dick there is, less chance of catching cooties that way...
Fuck, in school they really kept this kind of information from us didn’t they.. but perhaps it was the red pill test all along, to see if us young lads understand that hygiene, health and intelligence etc are attractive traits you need to develop if you wish to perform your function as a human (fuck).
What an eye opening post, good one mate.
astonboi01 6y ago
This is incorrect. If the effects of smoking take place which eventually they will then yes they are unattractive. However smoking is probably considered attractive if anything because if a man does something risky or edgy, the woman recognises that in spite of this that person is still alive which equates to good genetics. Same reason women are attracted to fighters because in spite of their dangerous lifestyle, they are still alive and therefore will probably produce healthy offspring. Obviously in the grand scheme of things you shouldn’t take up smoking to look cool but it’s not going to make a woman less attracted to you. Fuck man drug addled rockstars were considered cool and were pussy magnets. Lil peep has an army of fan girls even after his death and was addicted and eventually killed due to drug abuse.
clon3man 6y ago
Funny, I associate smoking with being employed and cool. When done in moderation
[deleted] 6y ago
How is this eye opening? Why WOULDN'T you want to be clean, healthy, and smart? Women don't need to tell you this, you should want this for yourself, not just to bang chicks.
TheEgyptianConqueror 6y ago
I'm sorry, but what in the hell is your username
NabroleonBonaparte 6y ago
Now THIS is the content I love.
The science on disgust was an explanation for why Hitler used the rhetoric he used against the Jews. By referring to them as “rats” or plagues” he was tapping into people’s disgust response to manipulate them into being Nazis.
Even more interesting is that the same circuitry for disgust or orderliness is the same circuitry that helps you categorize things which makes you better at maths and engineering.
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Snowboard18 6y ago
I wouldn’t say they avoid them all together even if they arnt hitting on them, most beta dudes that I know all have female friends while the alphas don’t, they simply don’t feel the need to befriend females.
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Woujo 6y ago
Women are disgusted by betas. But they still like men and need attention, and most of them can't get attention from the alpha males they want, so they need to settle for betas. No rule is black and white and everything is a balancing test, and women often put up with some disgust because that is all they can get.
[deleted] 6y ago
Women are disgusted by betas in a specific context, and that context is searching for a male to serve as protector/provider/father of their children. The rest of the time they aren’t disgusted by betas, they just treat them like they treat all their female friends.
Snowboard18 6y ago
So why would females befriend and hang out with beta if they are “disgusted” by them? That’s like me being disgusted by the smell of shit, sittin in a room over and over just smelling the shit. I’d say “disgusted with the idea of fucking them” is a better way to put it.
Domebeers 6y ago
tldr, written by a beta
The autists have flooded this site. 'beta male' generally refers to a sex strategy (provider). Women aren't repelled by them. Sidebar.
Woujo 6y ago
The term "beta" can mean a lot of things. In the scientific literature, it means individuals that are lower-ranked in the dominance hierarchy. No scientist thinks that beta means "provider." The beta/provider strategy just means that men that are unattractive and lower on the dominance hierarchy try to get women by being providers, but there is no inherent link between being a provider and a beta.
NeoTheJuanDJ 6y ago
Beta has many contexts. So does alpha. The RP often correlates Alpha and Beta as mindsets. To women, alpha is feels/anxiety (alpha fucks), and beta is comfort (beta bucks). When it comes to intersexual dynamics, Beta isn’t necessarily bad thing, it’s just comfort. Just like alpha isn’t “better”. One is only more valuable to you over the other when used as a strategy to accomplish your mission. If you’re in an LTR, you’ll need to use more comfort, or “beta” qualities than say just going for the lay with a plate. Also, the concept of “after-care” with a one-night stand is beta, even though the act of fucking a girl you just met over coffee, while fucking multiple girls at the same time aka having a rotation is considered to be “alpha”. They’re placeholder terms. For mindset, one is better than the other. For intersexual dynamics, both are neither good nor bad, they just are. It’s there for you to use strategically to foster the desired outcome in which you aim to accomplish.
Domebeers 6y ago
yeah anyway in the real world when people are talking about alpha and beta, as popularized by PUA types, it's about sexual strategy. If providers didn't fuck no man would do it.
emd9629 6y ago
This has always been my first order concern. Above all else I try to not be disgusting. Not only in front of women, but other men as well, and even when I'm alone.
It seems like an easy, simple, common sense thing, but for some reason this seems to be a fringe "activity".
My cleanliness is one of the things I receive the most positive feedback about from women (second only to physique).
SavvyVolley6 6y ago
“even when I’m alone.”
That’s HUGE. Who you are at home is who you’ll be publicly. Maybe not right away, but people (especially women) will sniff that shit out, QUICK
555WeWolf 6y ago
Everything you do is a habit, success itself is a habit. So its only natural that you behave like that even if you are alone simply because you are used to it
StrongAttitude 6y ago
Is this similar to what Confusiousnims (don't know how to spell it) talk about?
Truth, Beauty, and Perfection are the 3 things mankind has always been looking up to.
theredsperg 6y ago
hits hard but ultimately 'the truth' great post
FaP_corleone 6y ago
Amogging beta cucks is crucial. Fuckin good content.
[deleted] 6y ago
True. I lift my nose at the disgusting beta males congregating at my work.
BumblingBeta 6y ago
They find physically unattractive men disgusting. Women rate 80% of men as below average looking. So this means that the vast majority of men are either disgusting or invisible to women.
It's nothing to do with alpha and beta nonsense. Just be as good looking as you possibly can and hopefully some women will find you bearable enough to have sex with.
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brytlites 6y ago
It actually explains the visceral response of disgust or revulsion when you encounter a woman that will have sex with anybody (and has). I’ll give you that. The rest seems like a bit of a stretch. Rarely does a single theory explain everything. But you have some good points.
SaberSpyder 6y ago
Lets not forget this is JUST theory ok? Take it easy there bud.
BumblingBeta 6y ago
It's mostly just LARPing. I stopped coming here after many of the details in the field reports made them seem unbelievable and fake.
Woujo 6y ago
Most of the stuff on this subreddit is theory. There is not a lot of money to fund science into research that is going to demonstrate Red Pill truths, so you have to use the science you have. This science on disgust is pretty-well backed up by scientific evidence and also matches most people's personal experience when dealing with women, so it is worth considering.
[deleted] 6y ago
Perhaps you mean 'hypothesis'. For 'theory' is a hypothesis proved by practice.
SavvyVolley6 6y ago
Everything is a theory. What we know to be “right” today will be wrong tomorrow.
People used to think the sun revolves around the earth, that was cutting edge science.
We used to think that we were supposed to just throw ourselves at females, that the ideal outcome was mutually beneficial. Now we know that’s societally reinforced BS meant to benefit women for free.
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Woujo 6y ago
I have a B.S. in engineering, so not really