TL;DR - A basic overview on how equivilant salaries equated for salaried & self employed people. If you go self employeed you can pay less tax. You may have security or freedom. You can't have both.(unless you're super weathly)
I've tried to keep the maths as simple as possible, but reintroduction of figures is needed at points. Hopefully it doesn't trip people up. If it does, get better at maths.
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Following on from a previous post I will outline a way in which the United Kingdom Tax system does this (HMRC) Comparing purchases & lifestyle choices made by a salaried employee vs. that of someone who runs a LTD company (1 employee/freelancer).
I’m going to first set out a few key points that the future information will be built around.
1) The pre-tax salary or profit will be £30,000. This as of 2019 is the average full time salary in the UK.
2) It is based of you paying £250 per month into a private pension. (10% of pre-tax salary)
3) I’m assuming the individual is single & has 0 dependents. So it keeps tax credits out of the equation.
4) There are no student debt repayments to be made.
5) They are sharing a house with one other individual.
6) Food is calculated at £60 a week. Avg £260 per month.
7) They have no car.
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The average rent, council tax & basic bills in the UK are £650.14 (£483.5, £69.63, £97.01)
The salaried employee will take home each month. £1,795.
So they have £1144.86 to spend as they wish.
Taking food into account they now have £884.86 as disposable income.
The self-employed individual pays tax on a yearly basis once their EOY accounts are done.
Before this they take home £3000 a month. £719 is tax & NI free so covers any complications with paying tax on money needed for rent.
10% into Private pension.
£650.14 for rent bills etc.
They now have £2099.86.
Of this £68.69 of their tax-free allowance remains.
Depending on the business. Food expense can be run through the business. Think coffee shop etc. So your business can feed you. It’s passed as a business expense.
Accounting for food the self-employed person has £1839.86 as disposable income. £955 more than the SE. Tax will need to be paid if this remains at the end of the year.
They can now use this to help run their business by buying assets, equipment or “investment items” This can be art, computers, cars etc. It has to link into the business in someway. So you can’t buy flights to Paris with your LTR/FWB and run it through the business. Unless… There is a conference that weekend relevant to your industry.
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A short note on tax.
Dividends - You get £2000 as a tax-free dividend allowance. After that it’s 7.5% until you hit the higher rate (32.5%, >£50k total earnings p/a)
Income Tax & Ni – Whatever is remaining you’ll owe as if you were a normal salaried employee.
To minimise the tax you pay you can some of the following through your business;
Car, car insurance, fuel, Tv, computers, “Office” Furniture, flowers for your mum.
VAT – Value added tax
You’ve seen those pissy feminist banging on about paying 20% tax on tampons? Well that’s VAT.
If you’re business is VAT registered then you get to claim that additional 20% back on a monthly or quarterly basis. It’s on a lot of products which is really shouldn’t be. It was originally intended for “non-essential” goods.
It features on adult clothes, fuel, toilet roll, soap, shower gel, most electronic items etc. Just ask for a VAT receipt when you next go to the supermarket and see how much you’re giving to HMRC for basic products.
When you run them through your business this is where you get a nice double bonus.
1) You can offset this as a business expense and reduce your personal tax bill. As you have less profit.
2) You get the VAT refunded.
E.g. 1
You have to buy a new computer for you business. It costs £409. £68.17 of that is VAT.
As a cost to a business it’s £340.83.
For the private individual to do this it costs £409. However if you recalculate it to pre-tax earnings, the true cost of what you need to earn. Then it is somewhere in the region of - £511.
Formula
(Pre tax earnings/post tax earnings) = (Pre tax computer / post tax computer)
You’re paying tax twice. Once for your earnings & a second time on VAT.
Finally to compare the two tax bills on the £30000 earnings. For ease of calculation.
1) They both spend £884.86 of their income/business expense.
2) They live equivalent lives.
The Salaried employee has £0 left. But all tax & NI is paid. £5462 in total.
The self-employee has £17381.68 in “profit” including their tax-free allowance. £2000 for dividends has already been removed.
They pay £396 in tax for the year. £1063 in NI. A total of £1459.
Just by a simple change in employment status the difference is £4003. Both have £3000 in a private pension & a £750 HMRC contribution. No personal savings however.
I’ve left out some obvious elements
1) No sick pay for self employed persons.
2) You’ll probably need an accountants help with some things.
3) If your business is VAT registered then some work e.g. consultancy is VAT applicable. So can mess with your VAT refunds.
4) There are some worker protections for employed staff. However these are being eroded in the UK.
That’s a very basic overview of how tax works. I’m not an accountant so these figures won’t be 100% but are an example of how it works.
Any questions, just ask.

XanderS311 6y ago
What kind of independent, self-sufficient male doesn't own a car?
Isbjornsolo 6y ago
One that lives in a large metropolitan city with good public transport.
lordlivingston 6y ago
Where I live (Dubai) , public transport is awesome but you're better off with a car.
The entire city is laid out like a giant hotwheels track, it takes 2 hours to get anywhere by public transport.
DigitalDragonSlayer 6y ago
Sick post man, lots of people can benefit from this type of post..cheers mate, keep writing.
[deleted] 6y ago
Imagine thinking that personal expenses = business expenses. Only a matter of time until you get fucked over in a tax audit.
Yet another validation of my previous posting in here that TRP should stick to what TRP know best: intersexual dynamics. Not hypertrophy programming, not business advice, nor investing or taxation advice. Just ridiculous, there are great subs for all of these - TRP is not one of them.
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awildbannanaphone 6y ago
personal expenses may be business... its not your fault if you happened to enjoy something your business needed to do. Even food, write up a company policy that the company pays for food if youre working even if youre the only employee, use a company card. Itll pass
Isbjornsolo 6y ago
Doubtful that i won't pass an audit. But thanks for your concern.
F_Dingo 6y ago
Personal living expenses are not business expenses. There is no country on earth that allows you to deduct personal expenses against your business. You are setting yourself up for a nice ass-fucking from the tax authorities if you are ever audited.
Isbjornsolo 6y ago
It depends on your industry. I can run most of "normal" day to day expenses through my books as my business needs them and it falls within 10% allocation.
I can start buying anything which I can't pass off as a business need. I.e. Dinners on a saturday night etc.
yomo86 6y ago
Business dinners are the most easily audited deductions. When it happens too often you are just asked to state the person who was with you and pray to your dear lord that everyone keeps their mouthes shut and deducts the same expenses on their tax sheet. And no one is lying to the IRS and risking a felony prosecution just for a tax deduction of 10 dollars.
F_Dingo 6y ago
Mate, your personal living expenses are not business expenses and never will be. Familiarize yourself with basic aspects of your country’s tax code or you will be paying a stupid tax once the relevant authorities take a peek under the hood and they start looking at things line by line.
BumblingBeta 6y ago
That was a long way of saying you pay more tax as an employed person vs a self-employed person. Why all the waffle just to say something as incredibly obvious as that?
Isbjornsolo 6y ago
That's the point. Everyone can shrug their shoulders about that SE paying less tax. However very few actually have knowledge of how it works. Hence the need for further explanation.
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[deleted] 6y ago
Plus if your self employed you can be paid cash in hand and declare that you earned less than you actually did... its only a crime if you get caught ;)
Isbjornsolo 6y ago
Don't open Pandoras box with that one.