So, "Nice Guys", "White Knights" and incels think that "Girls only like assholes! No fair! No fair!" This is because Nice Guys think that girls should like caring men who ‘rezpekt wimminz!’, and White Knights think women should like men who are "Moral and Good" and who is more "Moral and Good" than the White Knight?

TRP says, "That's fine, fellas, but we're not playing 'should'ves'. You can either bitch because women like 'assholes' or you can be the 'asshole' that women like."

In TRP parlance an "asshole" isn't the guy who is the most arrogant, rude and obnoxious. When Nice Guys and White Knights refer to a man as an "asshole" it simply means that the "asshole" is a guy who is willing to put his own needs and wants and desires ahead of m'lady's, and take what he wants in life (within the bounds of the law, ofc).

So when young men sally forth on their careers as swordsmen, the Nice Guy thinks he will “nice” his way into some sex, and the White Knight thinks, "I will prove my worth to yon maiden fair! I will write poems for her and carry her books to school and doest all the 'Boyfriend Audition' things a swain does to Prove His Worth! Surely, she will realize that we were Meant To Be Together^TM and one fine, bright beautiful day she will place the 10th Stamp on my 'Nice Guy' Card^TM and she will swoon and say, through lidded eyes, 'You may Claim Your Prize, Sir Knight! Verily hast thou earned it!' and then she will shower me with All Teh SeKs I DeSeRVe!"

Except that's not how the story ends.

It ends with some asshole showing up at Ye Olde Ale House and, while the Betafag Nice Guy and the White Knight hover, the asshole quaffs the rest of his ale, looks the girl up and down, smirks and chats her up. The Nice Guy/White Knight attempts to intervene, and the Asshole says, to the girl, "Oh, is this your {air quotes} BOY-FRIEND?" She giggles demurely, looks down and says 'no' and then the Asshole watches the NG/WK's testicles shrivel up into little hamster balls and then vanish in a puff of dust because all the 'work' he put in on 'his girl' just got vaporized in less than 30 seconds.

Then the Asshole takes her back to his place and lays pipe, while the Nice Guy/White Knight stands in the doorway looking after then as they fade into the distance, hollowly saying, ”But Aurora! We were ‘meant’ to be together!!!!”

Here's the twist: The Asshole is simply a man who stands up for himself and pursues his own interests. His motto is "Take what you want and pay for it." If a girl doesn't want to bang, fine, he puts her back on the shelf and goes after other women - the Nice Guys and White Knights, meanwhile, each double down on their ‘One Special Girl’ until they either become the Mayor of her Friend Zone or, maybe, when she has wasted the flower of her youth banging every Outlaw Biker, Drug Dealer and Escaped Mental Patient she could find, until she has become an emotionally broken hosebag with the Thousand Cock Stare, and then, and only then, might she let her NG/WK wife her up, forcing him to pay for (and risk divorce rape over) what she formerly gave away to losers for free.

So decided who you want to be, and proceed accordingly.

That said, sometimes when guys are new to TRP and they haven't mastered wielding "Asshole Game" as a tool, and really, REALLY get out of hand and actually do act like assholes. That's why I say to keep things "mildly subversive" so that girls think you know something and they want in on it.

Further Reading:

Think HORIZONTALLY, Not VERTICALLY

-Don't Become the Mayor of her FriendZone.

Approach Anxiety: Faint Heart Never Fucked Fair Lady

-Take a Deep Breath, and Make It Count.

Abundance Mentality - Why It's Good For You.

-If You Really Want To Know, Go And Build It.

Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Outcome Independence or Welcome to Level 99 DGAF

-How to Rock Out With Your Cock Out.

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Apfeltee 5y ago

Yeah it’s a valuable lesson and basically what NMMNG teaches you. Put yourself first and stand up for yourself, even if a women stands in front of you. Respect your own boundaries and yourself and people will respect you. Thank you V

LotBuilder 5y ago

Attractive guys that somewhat try to get laid get laid. Marginally attractive guys that try hard to get laid get laid. Unattractive guys that try hard and are willing to approach a lot of women get laid.

Who doesn’t get laid... guys who don’t approach women. Guys who have oneitis. Guys who lose confidence from 1 rejection, or 5 rejections, or 25 rejections. Obviously if you are more attractive it’s easier so work on that but it isn’t the whole story.,

Did you guys watch Tiger King? Bhagavan Antle has a freaking harem and the guy is a giant tool. He does have some charisma and can bull shit but he’s a complete tool. If he can have a harem of women why can’t you? I say this partially in jest, having multiple wives would be misery but it goes to show you how far a little confidence can go.

nickdimitrov 5y ago

To expand on this, Nice Guys and White Knights are inherently unattractive because they demonstrate that they are willing to sacrifice their time, energy, and attention, and that they are projecting their made up rules onto the world. What that sub-communicates to anyone with a basic level of awareness is that:

They do not enforce any boundaries on their time, energy, and attention, which makes those things worthless, since it shows that they are not pursuing anything worthwhile or valuable (fun experiences included). No one is attracted to people who are not going anywhere worthwhile.
The fact that they are enforcing their rules as to "who deserves what" indicates scarcity, because people who uphold and cry over what life should be like are typically losers - they employ morality-shaming to try and make others conform to their worldview and bring them down, but it rarely, if ever, works.

At the end of the day people care about results, not made up "beta morality" - as long as a guy lives a life where he has directed himself towards the coolest experiences and the best people with little compromise, others gravitate towards him and follow him. That is what we strive for.

Setting boundaries and being unwilling to take people's shit when they vindictively try to push you off your path to passion, joy, and greatness will make you seem like an asshole. However, you need to be an benevolent asshole to get somewhere in life, and in doing so also share the value with the people that you choose to keep around.

UEMcGill 5y ago

Nice guys and white knights come off as unattractive because they are inherently dishonest. They commit covert contract after covert contract and try to negotiate attraction. Women see through justs as if a guy blantently asks "I'll give you 50 bucks to suck my dick". At least there he's honest with his intentions.

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

Nice guys and white knights come off as unattractive because they are inherently dishonest.

Women actually loathe White Knights. It is an alternative pussy-getting strategy that doesn't work.

ProFriendZoner 5y ago

I've been coming to a bunch of epiphanies lately as someone trying to move out of life long betaness (It's hard when it's been ingrained your entire life) but I've come to the realization that not giving a shit is the attractive part (yes, I know it's been said here a lot, but here me out, remember, most people here are here for guidance).

The Nice Guy "I'm here for you baby" doesn't work. Forget the emotional tampon part. She's got plenty of friends and orbiters that can do that shit.

Can you fuck her good and make her forget her problems instead of talking about them?

That's what she wants.

It's the knowing what to say and do to get to that part that I (and i'm sure others here) have a problem with. ( Yes, I'm reading the sidebar) But don't give a fuck about her or her problems, most of which she designed on her own to get the attention.

hearse223 5y ago

Dominance makes the pussy wet

Submissiveness makes the pussy dry, unless she has some kind of fetish.

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MysticalMike1990 5y ago

"At no time did he stopped to consider who had a hand in creating his values and why"

This line here should be step one for everyone to become whatever type of human being they want to be. How much of our paradigms are based on conjecture and second, thirdhand bullshit? And why do the unenriched try so vehemently to persuade you that thinking about the past and what our values and moral tenants come from is not needed? the truth is out there, but it's not sitting on the grass, you are going to have to fucking dig.

Protocol_Apollo 5y ago

Would you propose reforming schooling or promote alternate means of education on top of schooling?

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Mustang1011 5y ago

So there's no such thing as assholes get laid and nice guys don't. What we actually have are 2 very distinct male groups.

One is straight forward, no bullshit where if you fuck him great and if you don't fuck him on to the next. Zero complaining or asking questions. They are focused on themselves. They typically get referred to as assholes because women will interpret their inability to care as mean.

The nice guys are actually not nice guys. They are deceptive men with deceptive and unrealistic ideals. They befriend women and play long waiting games hoping to tire women out. When women reject them they complain because they were "nice" to them because they did actions to win the the favor of women they barely knew. They use guilt trips and sweet gestures in order to manipulate emotions which are feminine traits. These are the same guys that are "there" for the woman. Women pickup on this and instead of focusing on the truth the "nice" guys just blame "assholes" for their inability to act like fucking men.

There's no such thing as a nice guy. Just some manipulative schemer that will cry and cockblock everyone because they can't get laid and suck at life.

Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago

Think HORIZONTALLY, Not VERTICALLY

As a corollary, remember: Men think and compete for girls relatively to one another (horizontally), whereas women think and compete for guys absolutely (vertically).

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

Think HORIZONTALLY, Not VERTICALLY

I really should have called that "fish with a net, not with a pole", but I didn't. /shit

PillUpAss 5y ago

Great reminders for all of us. In your own game, do you filter on Thousand Cock Stare or is it “a hole is a hole”? I’m in the former camp - I have to feel some connection, even with a plate, otherwise it’s just mechanics.

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

I have to at least like the girl. I prefer to have a longer-term FWB, or OLTR situations, where we share a mutual interest, but I am not locked down to one woman.

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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

First, not every guy is in the same spot in their red pill journey. Also some guys need to hear material in a different way.

Also, I just looked at your "submitted" tab.

Zero Red Pill content. ZERO

But feel free to do a drive-by shit comment because hey, you have a streak of adding zero value, so why not keep it up?

Cha_Cha_cho 5y ago

I agree everybody is on their own journey.
Going through somebody’s posts doesn’t prove anything....

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

I agree everybody is on their own journey.

Correct.

Going through somebody’s posts doesn’t prove anything....

I disagree. I didn't "quote mine" his comments. I looked to see if he adds value by creating content, or just does 1-2 line drive-bys. That can tell you a lot.

Sciptr 5y ago

Did you really just take that to heart? Really?

I don’t waste my time writing repeating articles on the same subject because someone else has done it and it’s there to be found, I found them. If I had an article that would generate new thought and do a better job at improving others lives in this sub than the content already here, it’d be submitted.

You’re not gonna shame me into wasting time.

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RedUtopia 5y ago

Given that some idiots here preach BP ideals, a refresher post isn't too bad from time to time.

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

I'm here to help people. You're here to waste time.

If I had an article that would generate new thought and do a better job at improving others lives in this sub than the content already here, it’d be submitted.

Yeah, exactly, but you don't. Meanwhile, I generate a lot of content, much of which is on the askTRP sidebar.

Figure it out.

And since you're all about 'value' all of a sudden, have a think about "Will my comment add value?" before you hit 'save'...and then just keep steppin'.

You’re not gonna shame me into wasting time.

Here's a tip: If a post isn't of interest to you, then move to the next post in line. Or create you own content...oh, wait, you already admitted that you can't. So why are you here again?

Sciptr 5y ago

Comment adds value because it initiates discussion and provokes thought, if others disagree they downvote. If they agree, they upvote. You fail to acknowledge the fact that your content is the same track on repeat.

More of the same doesn’t always add value.

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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

For a guy who claims that I won’t “shame him” into wasting time, you sure seem interested in replying in defense of your initial shit comment.

Your initial shit comment got removed by the mods. That’s a pretty definitive opinion as to which “value”.

Face it, you can’t create content of your own, but you can’t quit me either.

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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

Look, it's not whether it bothers me - shit posts are a minor irritant - but that's not the issue. Guys like me, GLO (also in this thread, above), and others are going to produce content either way. But when people show up and ask why nobody new writes, it's because there are shitheads who want to do 1 or 2 line snarky posts...why? So they can flop their cocks out and say "look at meeeee! Look at my floppy cock!"? That bullshit must be called out. It hurts the sub and discourages newbie creators. Also when it's the first comment, it tends to kill the discussion, and there are guys here who benefit from that. So no, I will not go easy on the lil' haters, ever.

Lefanteriorascencion 5y ago

I enjoyed this. The way I see it being an asshole= being selfish. As we all should be. At the same time competition would be even more steep so I won’t complain. It’s also an endeavor that doesn’t happen overnight. For me it’s been years , traumatic experience after traumatic experience.

RobbyHagan 5y ago

Dope read. Creatively written too. Nice job

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hmmm ok uncle V im new here and my english is not perfect so please bear with me for a moment :

"TRP parlance an "asshole" isn't the guy who is the most arrogant, rude and obnoxious. When Nice Guys and White Knights refer to a man as an "asshole" it simply means that the "asshole" is a guy who is willing to put his own needs and wants and desires ahead of m'lady's, and take what he wants in life (within the bounds of the law, ofc)."

if that's your definition of asshole, why would you primarily mention (later in the article) archetypes of dudes who actually commit crimes ?
and why do women lose their absolute shit over criminals ? think ted bundy and charles subaraj (or however the fuck that is pronounced)

VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago

"Asshole" in this context is something (a) non scoring losers call guys who fuck, and (b) guys who simply put their own needs first.

I put "within the bounds of the law, ofc" because if I don't then there will be some idiot who shows up and screeches, "YOU'RE CONDONING RAAAAAPEEEE!!!!" Which, in fact, I am not.

I had this convo with a girl in my rotation who is a bit conflicted over why she digs me:

Her: "I like confidence, but you are also a little bit arrogant, but in a sexy way."

Me: "You like me because I make your pussy wet."

I could have gone with a number of replies, but I went with "direct" here because she had already signaled that she likes "arrogant" men. Now there are other factors, such as I have already built rapport, and she's 5'10" (178CM) and wants to submit, so I have the proper context. If a WK who miraculously got that far? He would have "M'lady"-ied her until her pussy dried out. By saying what I said, I re-enforced her attraction and let her rev her hamster-wheel.

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iCeeYouP 5y ago

Don't mistake the byproduct of success for the cause of success. Males who get laid a lot are rewarded with sex regardless of their personalities, not BECAUSE of their personalities. Them developing assholes attitudes are from an abundance mindset.