It depends on what you mean by 'the matrix'. To me the Red Pill goes way beyond just women. It's the raw, unfiltered truth of the world. It's HOW the world works behind the scenes rather than what we see at first glance or what we are told it is. It's the meta rules of the world, if you want it another way. Economics, human relationships, societies, all abide by this "law" no matter what.

So I don't think the Blue Pill necessarily means beta. It just means you want to see/idealize the world in a certain way that is not congruent to what the world actually is. It just so happens that in terms of relationships, beta behaviour is how everybody "wished" relationships would go. Love each other unconditionally no matter what without putting any work in.

Let the philosophy be just that, philosophy. Have you any lays? If you don't, think that provider provides. Be a good provider and play your cards as husbant material.

OP: I think it helps when you realise that Alpha is attractive, and beta is useful.

> That's really what the blue pill asks of you. Only give carrots, don't give any sticks. Sticks are "bad." That doesn't work for horses, and it doesn't work for women. Only carrots will make her puke.

For people in general. In the well deserve absence of god, most people can not anchor themselves in the absurd and find nihilism all encompassing. The only retreat is the secular religion of humanism, that hides the mind away from the grey nature of all things and give clean very defined black and white categorizations for everything.

As such, we give carrots only because we do onto others what we want to be done onto us. We believe that if we all do out very best and good, the world will magically be filled with good. And "the bad" is just things done by bad people.

However, I will defend humanism, and the blue pill in one sense. Having a cultural lock on the brain of men that find it easier to kill women than to walk the sometimes very thin line between chump and abuser - is socially preferable. Sure, these are insignificant % of the population, but when that population is a few billion, even 0.001% means millions.

In the matrix, beta game for me was the only game in town. The right way.

Tell that to Cypher.

Mammals then that’s true. Fuck Reddit.

I think our instincts around being beta is. Beta is alpha (for good girls). This is the natural order as if you Remove contraception from society. sex has the high cost of making babies that require provisions and resources.

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I'd say blue pill is the info we get from our mothers, while red pill is the information that if our dad happens to have a lot of experience with women and actually takes action to teach us. I feel like a lot of dads don't give a shit and won't teach you shit about anything though unless you hound them.

I hate the term “Beta” in a wolf pack the beta is second in command and will sometimes take over if the alpha is injured, killed or becomes old. What people mean when they say beta would actually be the omega of a wolf pack.

Women love betas Lust for alphas

Being beta is my usual go to strategy. Kind and sweet to all the women I don’t want.

Yeah hold frame, always go for the most beautiful girl, etc...

If you fall back in your beta behaviour try re-reading sidebar material and try again.

It's pretty much the saddest game (talking about game here) but it's very rewarding.

I sometimes miss beta behaviour because it's foolish and I like a challenge, but it's all it takes to go back for a round with the 5 steps to acceptance of your faith here on earth.

I see the whoie beta as someone who is weaker and has to negotiate with kindness what he can't achieve with power, skill or intelligence. Alpha as the brute who can take what he wills by force.

Beta will be tolerated, but never loved.

Alpha will be worshipped, but also hated and others will look to destroy it.

There has to be a balance. "Think as you will, behave like others." is a good take here. Being an asshole everywhere may net good results sometimes, or most of the time even, but not all times.

I've also noticed that you can get away with sooooooo much shit only for having muscle. Being a big dude helps so much with the whole "not being nice"

We're all governed by the chemicals in our brains, whether we can explain why or not. Sometimes the reasons we do things are obvious, sometimes they're not. Our chemicals are not logical, and in an increasingly logical (supposedly) world, that divide between what makes sense and what is seems to be widening.

All you really have to do is watch a shit ton of nature shows. The female animals are all getting with the Alphas, although some occasionally get with a beta for one and done. But it’s the Alpha that has his pick and his genetics go on for generations. Humans aren’t all that different although we have social norms and law to restrain us.

Interesting post. I originally clicked because of the title. I’m a wildlife bio major so I look at life through the lense humans being animals and technically speaking, what we refer to as beta in this community is considered “omega” in the animal kingdom. Betas are the alphas right hand man so to speak, they’re the second to eat and they assume the alpha role if the current leader dies. Omegas are the bottom of the totem pole. They eat last and are designed for relieving tension in pack animals (they initiate play, they get “bullied” or dominated by betas and other animals when after the alpha shows a dominance display). i’m not trying to be an asshole the title of your post made me think of that. I use beta the way we mean it whenever I’m talking about TRP.

But the point about sometimes beta being the right way was interesting to me. 48 Laws of Power has a couple laws that more or less go along with this. It’s stuff like “never shine too bright,” “praise those above you until you surpass them” etc etc. Machiavelli says similar stuff in The Prince. Sun Tzu in Art of War too. It’s things like hide your intentions, don’t let your enemies know they’re your enemies. I know what you mean when you say this but it can definitely be interpreted the wrong way

I recently had a conversation with a friend who admitted that he was unable to give the stick to his girl. He could "put his foot down" and do what he wants, but she would always win the long drawn out fight. He was "committed" so no matter what she knew he wouldn't leave. That thought in the back of her mind gives her so much control it's absurd...that girl he dates...is my sister. And I warned him that she does this to anyone who commits. Even my parents. She runs circles around them, and still ends up being the victim, the innocent one.

A trained dog is a good dog.