Note I stole this story from an ask reddit
I was at a bar with some girlfriends of mine when a very handsome guy came up to me, spoke to me for 10 seconds and then shoved his shy and unfortunate looking friend in front of me with a "this is (guy's name), he's (something good and interesting)!" It was a clear to me in this moment that the handsome dude was trying really hard to Wingman his unfortunate awkward friend and get him acclimated to Talking To Girls. This for whatever reason touches my heart and so I set about having polite and friendly conversation with Awkward Dude.
Awkward Dude proceeds to chat me up and I pretend to not see the thumbs up from Handsome Friend. Awkward Dude seems to be a nice guy, just painfully shy. He asks me where I'm from about three times after I've already told him, always followed by high-pitched laughter and "I'm sorry, I already asked you that....ummm..." It's endearing -- he's clearly having 40% of a panic attack just speaking with me, and I'm being very careful to give him positive reinforcement to build his confidence.
This is when my bitchy friend comes up to me, looks at the guy, grabs my arm and says, "UGH, okay, I'm saving you!" and pulls me away. I stop her, say, "no, I'm having fun, I'll be over in a minute" and she literally POINTS AND LAUGHS at him and makes some mean joke about my "charity work".
The look on the dude's face still makes me wince when I think about it. He was totally crushed, like every doubt or criticism he had about himself was just validated, and he walked away from me as fast as he could, totally humiliated.

Discourse_Monger 5y ago
If a woman destroys a "man's" confidence, he wasn't that much of a man, really... :) Give up resentment, for yours and others' sakes.
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I had this happen to me in reverse.
Was at the bar and a really hot girl, in a pretty good looking group, comes up to me, smiles and says "hi, my friend thinks you're hot". I was like cool, start scanning the group a couple them move and then a literal 2/10 whale waddles up out of nowhere and I literally did a shocked Pikachu face and turned 180 without saying a word.
They started yelling at me for being rude and an asshole. The hot one slapped me in the back.
But like, what the hell did you expect? Way to set up your friend for embarassment. This story reads similar and you can't blame the girls here.
4ktx 5y ago
Try being a chad. I literally get bumped in the club by females on purpose. Elbows the whole 9 yards. Then when I approach after literally getting eye fucked, hand in the face.
Idk man..... I don’t mind much. These women play games right off the bat. So I apply dread-game, talking to other females.
And all of the sudden she wants me.
Casd12 5y ago
This is peak negative feedback loop. If you look ugly, is shy and awkward, then you're subjecting yourself to the brutal social negative feedback loop. The key is to change the variables where it's a net positive feedback loop vs negative. aka by lifting, dressing better, learning how to talk properly etc
Yakatonker 5y ago
Probably sheltered by his boomer parents, especially the mother, never taught or had any positive male role models, siblings, friends that could acclimate him socially. Its the typical formula for these kinda guys and add in MSM programming and that'll usually produce the modern new age eunuch.
Unfortunate a lot of guys have these elements to them. Who knew MSM, school or retarded boomers were a failing on the young.
BadBambino 5y ago
I dont know why people literally take under consideration what others think of them? Like seriously duuude, just pretend they are no better than mare apes. You don’t care what your cat thinks about u, so why stop there? Unless someone accuse you of something, which you didn’t do. Then yeeah you got to shut it down.
TheDeadlyZebra 5y ago
Half ape, half horse
100% Mare Ape.
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CimAntics 5y ago
If you don't care what your cat thinks of you, then why did you get a cat? Manage your framing, keep things in perspective, but you don't need to go full sociopath and pretend other people's feelings and opinions don't matter. Smalltalk and superficial presentation might land an easy lay but empathy is essential to building meaningful connections.
BadBambino 5y ago
Don’t make things complicated, I meant like when your dog sees you naked. You don’t put much thoughts into, same way when dealing with assholes, always keep ur cool, and just do what u wanted in the end. Only force can stop u, not a empty toothless words.
You’re right about the full sociopath part! But being a little psychopath wouldn’t hurt. ;)
CarelessBowler5 5y ago
Yeah. That dude was primed for failure the day he needed external validation.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
And you’ve never needed it?
CarelessBowler5 5y ago
I have, and it primed me to fail every time!
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
It's funny cause on one side, it's cool the gal kept talking to the dude to sort of get him over his panic attack. On the other, you also sort of wish she were just real with him in a way to give him a reality check (though, I think the bitchy friend did that in a way).
pbar 5y ago
...and that awkward dude went on to be Ted Kaczynski.
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pbar 5y ago
I agree. He's become an icon on 4chan, where they call him "Uncle Ted".
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"stfu bitch" is the only right answer.
Do not ever let your validation come from a female.
mydogfartzwithz 5y ago
sounds fucking gay. Maybe the bitchy friends the whore that sloppily goes home with anyone. Seems like the type. Don’t treat women how they want to be treated treat them how they need to be.
yomo86 5y ago
These are the women who will scavenge the internet in their 30s on how to talk to hot guys. Humiliation is good when I look back it put things into perspective.
lolomotif12 5y ago
Yes this is a sad story and I'm sure very painful for that man but some of us need experiences like this to fire up our inner beast so hard that it will change them into a new stronger and better man. I hope this is what has happened.
Raccoon_from_heaven 5y ago
Nobody destroys your confidence. Destruction of your confidence is a result of your own thoughts and/or actions. You are responsible for your own thoughts and actions.
thefilthyhermit 5y ago
If you were really having fun you would have told you r friend to fuck off. Apparently, your friend was right.
Don't be doing a guy any favors. Just fucking stay away.
ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
Women like those are the lowest bottom feeding scoundrel. Soulless cesspool of low IQ and zero integrity. For every million rotten women in this world..there is one gentle soul out there waiting for you to find her.
ChinmayT2 5y ago
Bit confused. Are you a girl?
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Bunnies_and_Anarchy 5y ago
Read the first line of the post again.
ChinmayT2 5y ago
Good god I completely over looked that.
Pegando-Culo69 5y ago
Why are girls so socially incompetent. When I’m hanging out with other guys and one of them starts talking to a girl we have the common sense to not interfere
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empatheticapathetic 5y ago
She thought she was saving him. Did you even read the post?
gabeangelo 5y ago
What a misleading title. Females don't destroy a man's confidence because his confidence is already destroyed. It's his own internal beliefs that destroy his self value and any criticism will only confirm his beliefs.
Any person, man or woman, has any jackshit of power over a man who has confidence.
This post is shit and unhelpful.
vaginal_defloration 5y ago
a handsom stranger becomes a handsome friend in just two paragraph of times.
b2daoni 5y ago
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned this guy yet. The narrator says "very handsome guy" came up to her to speak to her then shoves his friend in her face. This handsome guy has probably had luck with girls in the past based solely off his looks, and is probably trying to help his unfortunate looking friend out by getting him some external validation.
Shy guy has yet to learn that validation must first come from himself. His 'very handsome' friend may not realize this either or perhaps wants him to lose the fear of rejection.
The narrator says also, 'this for whatever reason touches my heart, so i set about having a polite and friendly conversation with Awkward Dude'
Doesn't that smell like pity?
Hope my manz levels up and stops seeking validation from women. Their validation of you is correlated by your accomplishments, which translate into what you can provide to/for them. Pity has no viable trade-off for them other than perhaps adding you to her friend zone.
My thoughts at least. shrugs
squarehead93 5y ago
Exactly. Dude needs to go full monk mode and hit the gym hard. Cold approach has it's use but this guy needs an internal form of validation before he goes out again
mikkeldaman 5y ago
Now he has time with the quarantine. But in normal circumstances I'd say you can work on multiple aspects of your life. And yeah even dealing with the fear of rejection.
yomo86 5y ago
Yup cold approaches works even its failures when you know that your pitched product ie you has an intrinsic value.
thefilthyhermit 5y ago
Validation is heavier weight on the bar than last week. Do the math.
AriaRz22 5y ago
Well i guess its the same. Internal validation: confidence in yourself seeing improve.
bossman9275 5y ago
This is pure fire. There's so many empowering and metaphorical layers to this statement. Free yourself.
Roto2esdios 5y ago
The woman wasn't making a good deed. She wanted to fuck 'very handsome guy'. So in order to get his attention, she shows fake interest to his awkward friend. She doesn't care about the shy guy at all. She only wants alpha dick.
I guess she failed. So she goes to post this story to get some attention to the good deed I did the other day
Dravous 5y ago
all else aside...there's still a difference between talking to a guy to get to his friend, and insulting him to his face and calling him a charity case. that's like pointing at a fat ugly chick and yelling "hey look at this fat ugly chick!".
decency and tact are still virtues, even in todays world.
zUltimateRedditor 5y ago
Her friend was the mean one. Not her.
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Pickuupp 5y ago
Seriously some of you need to stop looking for evil female intentions everywhere. In this case your theory is way less likely than the narrator simply feeling pity towards a painfully shy guy and wanting to positively reinforce the fact that he was trying. It’s really not that deep.
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lol facts.
girls can be nice too
dukegratiano15 5y ago
This is spot on. I find that we can get too carried away with placing all women into an evil person category. It’s not healthy.
ezragriffin 5y ago
I have seen that happen to people who got the red pill knowledge but instead of accepting it as things are, they see it as validating their beliefs about women, society etc.
Things like hypergamy, validation seeking, aren't inherently immoral, they are the result of the thousands of years of evolution.
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If they seek the knowledge to validate their biases, they will.
If they seek the knowledge to understand the world, they will.
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Best thing to do is to accept women as they are, and move on with improving our lives.
TRP_Scepter 5y ago
Reading this was painful, it reminded me of myself a few years ago. I hope this man uses this experience to grow and become stronger.
Most of us have stories that have had a similar effect on us; that's why we're here.
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Michael_Mayhem0 5y ago
Huh. I guess I’m lucky I discovered this sub when I was a freshmen in high school.
AriaRz22 5y ago
How much time is passed and what are your experiences after trp?
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idontmiind 5y ago
once crushed let's hope the poor guy goes through a transformation and becomes an alpha. That's how shit works
pacjax 5y ago
this is why you convince yourself that youre better than everyone because any attack on you is simply so ludicrous its not to be taken seriously
proactive-defense 5y ago
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Dravous 5y ago
the solution is make it reality. that's why TRP is about self-improvement.
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liquorandkarate 5y ago
Most people that are considered cool or interesting are “delusional” af they do it long enough and people start fucking with it and that delusion starts getting interpreted as confidence
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PopePalpatineTheWise 5y ago
Right I'm pretty sure the reason narcissists and sociopaths are really attractive and charismatic is because they overcome their ego, not because they have illusions of grandeur on how attractive they are.
EDIT: Holy fuck, sarcasm is hard on the internet.
Sociopaths and Narcissists have Massive Egos and yet they aren't having the same problems the story just described. Point is, if anyone is peddling you THE SOLUTION instead of A SOLUTION, they are probably selling you snake oil or they have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
If you have absolutely no ego whatsoever (impossible, but hey maybe i'm wrong), or you genuinely believe you are better than everyone else, it'll result in the same end goal: You don't give a shit.
HeftyNugs 5y ago
I can't tell if you're being facetious. I'm pretty sure you are, but narcissists and sociopaths have massive egos.
R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
In terms of sociopaths: because it's fun. It's fun to see the persons thought and to manipulate into your end goal. It's like a game.
proactive-defense 5y ago
The ego is the thing that can be hurt. No ego, nothing to get hurt, then the OP situation won’t happen. You can act in whatever manner is required, because you’ve overcome certain levels of compulsive negative thinking, and so you are more self-determined.
But yeah the sociopaths communicate honest signals as well, being that they’re not supplicative and this allows them to rise in the dominance hierarchy.
But ego isn’t necessary.
jaznex 5y ago
did u destroy your ego? have you felt that feeling ?
proactive-defense 5y ago
No, but I have reduced it significantly
jaznex 5y ago
are you sure isn't the ego talking ?
proactive-defense 5y ago
If someone is delusional, do they know they are delusional?
I mean, the person in the OP is having a massive ego-attack. And that kind of thing can be reduced. It can be quite situational, it's conditioned behaviour that can be deliberately altered.
A good tool, which makes it less airy-fairy is pre-framing.
jaznex 5y ago
just know the ego is really sneaky ;)
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pacjax 5y ago
theres more too it obviously, you have to actualize that delusion from (most likely) being a monster on your purpose
proactive-defense 5y ago
I agree, being on purpose is a good method to not indulge egocentric “me and how shit I am” compulsive thoughts, that communicate undesirable honest signals, if you want to get laid. It disables pedestalisation and other pitfalls.
R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
I can't believe people would down vote your comment and up vote the delusional one. It furthers my perspiration that there are a lot of damaged men on her now.
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R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
Huh? You've missed the point.
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proactive-defense 5y ago
Yes there is a hierarchy, which is a delusion that everyone agrees upon. Sorry to trigger you.
R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
Further perpetuation the perspective I mention earlier.
pacjax 5y ago
its not so much delusion, you must become THAT man to where its not delusional to think youre better than everyone else also my comment wasnt actually supposed to be taken that seriously it was more just an offhand thing but I guess people took to it
R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
I see your point, and I did perceive it literally. I see that the comment above and you original comment have loosely have the same goal: to not care of other's opinions. The original comment to me is a damaging way to achieve this as you lie to yourself and only try to obtain that goal without understanding the why and in the end create a shell and a superiority complex rather than truly not caring.
I'm one that believes in ego-death to be something to strive for. I got to experience it in grueling time in my life, it truly is liberating and feels like you reach your own center. You observe your environment, take note, and continue on.
We came here to learn the game and grow as men. It saddens me to see men stifle open conversation here with their own brute insecurity. I know anger is a stage we all pass through through red pill philosophy. Recently; it seems to me the things people are spewing are more related to bro science than self betterment.
Madhatter747 5y ago
This is why you take advantage of any and all power you may have over women whenever you can.
Run_Che 5y ago
even girls like OP who was genuinely trying to be helpful and acting like a decent human being?
Madhatter747 5y ago
She could be caring to one guy and humiliate another depending on her circumstances.
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Madhatter747 5y ago
A woman's "help" is situation and usually will benefit her the most in the long run.
Pickuupp 5y ago
That’s the case for men and women alike.
Run_Che 5y ago
Don't see what the benefit for her was in this instance. Maybe feeling good about herself because she helped boost another man's confidence a bit. But that is a good healthy reason.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
She virtue signalled about it on the internet.
mikkeldaman 5y ago
It's still a form of validation when you intimidate a guy to the point that he turns into a bumbling idiot.
Zehinoc 5y ago
No I don't think you get this sub girls are literally Satan we can't have this it was all a plot to destroy masculanism
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le_artistic_madlad 5y ago
I really doubt that some of these people get pussy.
lilrobin50 5y ago
If I was the guy getting made fun of. I would use that anger for self improvement
Run_Che 5y ago
he 100% isnt feeling anger
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Awokeeleven 5y ago
I agree but most men are so weak today so they get depressed and suicide instead
klasp100 5y ago
I see what you mean, but the way you said it made it sound kind of fucked up man
Awokeeleven 5y ago
Isn’t it true tho? Do I need to be light wordy here? I mean it’s fucked up, but no one really cares about it anyway. Look at the international men’s & women’s day for example. I actually think there was a paper here that wrote about male suicide last time, else it’s like “Go back to work you replaceable piece of shit, you are a privileged man and should NOT be celebrated”
skriker25 5y ago
Except he's probably blue pilled and would have the opposite effect.
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ezragriffin 5y ago
I absolutely agree.
I can only say great things about my Gods for looking after me and providing me with redpill knowledge at a young age.
It probably saved my life.
I was a blue pilled beta chump with a severe case of oneinitis.
Now, I understand that I should focus on myself and that I don't need validation from any one, especially a woman.
I never had "Red Pill Anger", I just knew in my heart what was being said by Tomassi and others are true.
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I honestly believe TRP saved my life, so... really fucking lucky
Vloneturtle 5y ago
I agree. Same here actually. I appreciate stuff in life more now!
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skriker25 5y ago
I hope he finds this place, even though half the community will rip him to shreds for asking a question
ShrekthCharge 5y ago
What do you mean by him asking a question? Genuinely curious. Sorta new to trp
KV-n 5y ago
Idk man, if you have to do a search that leads you to redpill, it means your shit is pretty fucked
In a sense those who.never have to find it are the luckiest because their sex life was always good
ezragriffin 5y ago
That might have been for the veterans of red pill knowledge.
For the newer generation, like I, the insane man hating perpetrated by feminists and normalized by media is what finally pushed me over to the red side.
Feminist man hunts like #MeToo #BelieveAllWomen which considers the man to be guilty without providing any proof, are the reason why many will seek out red pill knowledge to make sense of what is happening in the world.
So, in a way, they are lucky because they are seeking out red pill knowledge before they have to suffer hardships.
I think this will finally turn the tide against feminism.
ZephyrBluu 5y ago
Meh, disagree. I found the Red Pill somehow through PUA and RSD shit cause I was a smart kid who was awkward as fuck.
Blue Pill with a sex life seems way worse to me. There's plenty of stories of guys getting fucked over by girls and that being their Red Pill moment. Or worse, you end up supplicating to women for your whole life and never have a Red Pill moment.
I'm happy I found it when I was young.
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rad_dynamic 5y ago
Pretty much everything we do as humai is for sex. Once we eat, drink, have a safe place to live, the mind naturally goes to a feeling of importance and then sex.
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rad_dynamic 5y ago
Whenever I see people not going for sex it is almost always from insecurity and fear of rejection. Your ego is protecting yourself from any failure (rejection). How much sex you get is directly correlated to how much people want to be around you.
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DareyFathom 5y ago
I've had something similar to that happen to me. I was talking to a girl in the bar and it was going fine then her friend came over and grabbed her hand and tore her away. I certainly wasn't a bumbling idiot like this guy either. Part of the game. Learn and grow.
weebmaster32 5y ago
What bugs me the most about this is the fact that females are holding eachother back from changing their hypergamous nature. The girl telling the story was clearly enjoying her time with the awkward dude but in comes her friend and ruins it.
Now that girl will probably never even attempt to do something similar again, at least when she's hanging out with her bitchy friend.
Warfrog 5y ago
No one destroyed his confidence, he didn’t have any to begin with. She is not responsible for how you feel. You’re responsible for your own frame. Don’t blame others if you allow your paper thin veneer of confidence to be shredded, people (men and women) want to, and will, see who you really are.
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StrongAttitude 5y ago
The way the OP tells his story is like "all women are bad, all men are good". Oh my... haven't you ever seen men treat women like trash?
Both sexes are equally good and bad, open your-mind idiot. Even though TRP is true, it really gave me depression at first, but deep down I gradually realise if I were in women's shoes I would react in the same way as they do. Every behaviour of men and women can be boiled down to survival instinct. Since our physiology is different, our behaviour is different.
At the end of the day , 99% of men and women suffer, life is about suffering as there will always be more sadness in our life than happiness. So, there is no need to spread hatred and cause more suffering to others.
SteveSan82 5y ago
Atleast he went out. He can either learn from this or be a bitch and go back to pornhub.
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Sake99 5y ago
This dude, never had a heart break. When you have a deep deep heart break, you know you can't love in the same way ever in your life and hence you stop caring about walking over shattered glasses to please someone. You know....It won't make a person stays in your life. All Chads who are capable for spinning multiple plates are either indifferent to girl's attention or had a heart break in their lives.
smartscience 5y ago
Are you now not worried that your friend will also 'save you' when really talking to a man you're naturally drawn to? Or maybe that's what she thought she was actually doing, and she later secretly followed up with him to find out what the fuss was about?
Br0piate 5y ago
It is a fact that I feel bad for my less attractive friends who don't get laid as much as I do.
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ta_red_light 5y ago
Literally I would've done the same thing and I'm a guy.
Stop feeling sorry for the losers. Unless someone has some fucked up mental illness that prevents them from living normally, no one has fucking excuse for being a loser.
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NarrowBath7 5y ago
it does read like bad novel from an out of touch author
masterduelistky 5y ago
This always used to be my greatest fear.
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shapag16 5y ago
Suppose hes really close with his mother too.
DrGandu 5y ago
No point in blaming the "bitchy friend." Girls will be girls. Personally, one such encounter (actually even cringier) kicked me on the journey towards pimping, which led me to find RP. Throughout most of the journey, I was mad at the girl in my encounter. Not now. I'm thankful she crushed me when she did. I needed my ego to burst to build myself from the ground up.
With regards to his post though, the guy could either end up here or delve further into BP and end up becoming Mr Nice Guy from thinking there's "good girls" like original OP and "whores" like original OP's "bitchy friend." I hope for former, expect the latter.
MusingsOfChad 5y ago
Bet that friend was a land-whale.
NarrowBath7 5y ago
okay? My only question is why are you hanging out with shitty people who make fun of people like that? You talk like a narcissist and your friends seem shallow, you deserve each other and all that drama that comes with it.