At the very beginning, when I saw you on Bumble, I said to myself that's it , that's just another like the others. You first approached me pretentiously, as if your time was very important. By talking a little, I respect the rule of 3/2 and everything was fine. We even exchanged our Snapchat. I started to communicate to you through this sterile photo application and then I noticed that you were taking your time to respond. 2 hours, 4 hours and even sometimes 8 hours. So, I said to myself, either she fools me or she is very busy. I start to space my answers back, people who ignore me don't deserve my attention. Finally, I managed to schedule a date, it’s even you who proposed it first. You even proposed the day and the hour, It's was a first time for me, I was a little confused. I took you back for the time , giving me a little control on the date. So as usual , I stop communications until the day of the date, because it is useless to text for something other than logistics.
What I expected from this date (BEFORE THE DATE)
Very reserved, studious girl, her profile said pharmacy student, therefore. A 7-8 that could easily fall under my spell unless she is taller than me. I did not believe sleeping with this girl the first evening, in my opinion it was more a girl for a long term relationship.
Date day
The date would take place at a bar ( near my place ) at 9 a.m. So, I said to myself, I'm going to get there before her to analyze the field. I arrive there I meet some friends of my study field , I speak to them, even the barmaid, I knew her well. Finally she arrives 5-6 minutes late, physically a 7.5-7.8 very well dressed, very pretty, not too much makeup, common sense duh. So we talk and everything.
God damn, I was so wrong my boy. This girl was probably the smartest girl I have ever met in my life. Physically a 7.8 , but all the rest , a 10... It was the first time I lowered myself to their level. She was able to carry on a sustained conversation without any problem, it was the first time that I felt that I had no upper hand. It was the first time that I felt uncomfortable talking to someone for fear of wasting their time. The girl is in pharmacy 2nd year with 8 courses in addition to a marketing course, go down once a week to her hometown, work in a pharmacy 15 hours per week, represent of his faculty of pharmacy, make competitions of ski, horse riding, gets involved in all possible activities, in short the value she brought back had nothing to compare to mine. I was absolutely nothing in front of this girl, I lost my means I no longer even tried to flirt with her, but more to understand and listen to her. I was only a Uni guy who goes to the gym 4 times a week after all. It was the first time that I saw a girl who could offer something other than her beautiful smile and her vagina. She brought something else to the table and I was not yet worthy to receive it. In short, the date ended after two drinks each, she asked for the bill and then I accompanied her to our common intersection, she waved her hand to me and she went home. I was not even frustrated or disappointed that I had not managed to bring her home. Funnily.
To conclude, the important things to remember about this date. Whatever value you think you have, it's never enough, that's why you should never stop improving in life, always move forward. Don't forget that the best way to become high value is to do high value activities. I hope that the next time I meet you L, I will be worthy and I will be able to destroy your pussy.
After this written and a long reflection , I thought that it’s maybe because of my mindset that i couldn’t bring her home.

[deleted]
barry_diller 6y ago
I'm not at all Red Pill so I'm properly going to get downvoted to hell, but I think that no one is acknowledging something very important in your interaction, and I think that is one of the reason you made this post and are getting downvoted.
This is your first time getting blown away by a girl and this is a very big deal. Of course you are going to get shy and find it harder to take initiative. But you learned a lot about yourself, and that makes this a win. That is the exact reason why you were not frustrated or disappointed then you said goodbye.
Then I read about the concept of "onetius", it seems to me more of a preemptive attempt to shut down emotions, for fear of getting hurt than anything helpful. Moderate amount of it is fine, most couples have that the first time they met.
It's not over, especially is she doesn't want to waste time with someone who just want to have casual sex. Ask her out again and go for the mood, and kiss her.
The thing about self realisation is not the traits you learn by them, yes they are important, but it's the personality and confidence it gives. You were beginning to fall for her, not from her CV but the character traits that follows from it. Don't believe that just because you are not doing as much as her that you are not good enough. I met before a girl who were very career oriented and active all of the time, while my life were pretty shitty. But she liked me for my ability to make her relax and contemplate.
I think your conclusion in the post of not being good enough is a bit beside the point. You need to face your fear about getting rejected, and you can't do this by doing self improvement in other areas. It's quickly an excuse for avoidance.
Congrats for your experience. I hope to see an update
unamins 6y ago
Lost 5 minutes of my life reading this shit.
nickdimitrov 6y ago
What you are talking about here is masculine value. A woman with a successful and rich life does not really "bring" that value to the relationship. A high-quality woman is not one who lives like a purposeful man - a high quality woman is one who compliments your own journey and rich experiences.
You are right that you have a long way to go with regard to enriching your life. However, this is not the proper way to vet a woman. If you are a man who is complimented well by that woman - great. In any other case, stop evaluating women based on how much masculine value they have. An exciting and rich life is something that you need to provide for yourself - never look for a woman to provide those things for you. Look for feminine value.
The attitude you should have towards accomplished women is "so what". The only thing that matters to you is how well she works within your reality, not how interesting her own is.
You can also check this out.
ChadowyFigure 6y ago
I was going to reply until I saw this one; this is the correct response.
Wow, she has mastered the art of sitting in a classroom and parroting answers. Wow, she has hobbies. Like, who gives a shit about any of this? Are you looking to hire a well-rounded pharmacist with lots of extracurricular activities?
Maybe if OP is super into skiing or horseback riding she would have ticked a box for him, but OP never even says what he is looking for in a woman. And half of the stuff she was saying about her exploits was probably an exaggeration anyway.
Is she nice? Is she loyal? Does she have a personality/sense of humor/taste level that you can stand? Can you have a pleasant conversation? How does she fuck?
The fact that she is well-rounded and intelligent also has nothing to do with how easy it would have been for OP to pick her up. As someone with a predilection for nerdy girls, I can tell you from experience that it is easier if anything, they are just as vulnerable to being teased by muscles as any other girl.
Also, OP:
stevecapw 6y ago
The minute you denied AWALT, you were done. Live and learn.
[deleted]
Welendas 6y ago
What are your interests/hobbies ?
liberules 6y ago
i dance salsa/bachata quite well... i'm half latino so i grew up doing it.
i cook like a professional chef, have done plenty of culinary classes. i'm an investor in a major food blog, and i've been to plenty of michelin star restaurants fully comped. i've been to multiple top 10 restaurants in the world in their individual cuisines. if i had to estimate, i'd say i've been to about 50 wineries in the US and over a hundred 100 globally.
kiteboarding, snowboarding, surfing.
real hiking, like volcanos, caves, and rainforests and shit.
real travel, like i have status on 2 major airline alliances.
cage and cave diving (i'm at over a hundred dives now).
i've got a drone, and i'll regularly fly that.
pickup sports a few nights a week when i'm in the US, mainly basketball. olympic and powerlifting the other nights.
i'm also in multiple industry groups and an angel investing group so there's plenty of high-brow networking.
recently i've been getting into international real estate acquisition. many countries have a ban on foreigners owning 50%+ of a property, but there are often loopholes. i have a penthouse in a major US city, but i also have a penthouse in colombia. i'm working out a villa in bali right now but indonesia is one of the more complicated countries and this stupid pandemic is killing progress. i'm also looking to get a mountain property somewhere in chile, argentina, japan, or the alps. because of my main line of work (high net worth investor immigration), finding other investors to go in on fractional ownership of international properties is pretty easy.
[deleted]
skuttt 6y ago
It’s good to get some “failure reports”, we all need to be reminded there’s more to learn and achieve.
comcain 6y ago
This is pedestalizing at its finest. She's just a person. She may be doing more external things right now but in a few years she's going to be filling your prescriptions. "Miss, could I have a box of Sudafed?".
Cheers
sniper1905 6y ago
You’re already getting oneitus after a first date?
Don’t lose contact with her, if there’s a pill for the cure of the corona, then she could potentially hook you up with that since that’s all the hooking up she’ll do with you.
[deleted] 6y ago
[--removed--]
Welendas 6y ago
Good one for the pills.
I don't think it's ONEITS, I didn't try to keep in touch with her, even if she wished, she didn't haunt my thoughts either. I told my inner self that I must increase my value before seeing her again. It only woke me up to the fact that I still have a way to go before gaming those girls.
sniper1905 6y ago
Good spirit, hope others can learn from your attitude.
monsieurhire2 6y ago
Eh....
So, you were intimidated because she's accomplished. And so, you DQ'd yourself, and she picked up on it. She probably gets that a lot. I mean, if she were really that great, would she be single? Why is she doing all of those activities, especially when other girls aren't? Is it really because she is so superior? Or is it because somebody, somewhere along the line, implanted a deep insecurity in her with the object of driving her to achieve. Maybe it was her father, who wanted a son. Maybe it was an overachieving feminist single mother. Maybe it was the school system, or maybe it was a show she watched on TV.
Here's the thing: from a mating standpoint, all of her accomplishments, COULD ultimately work against her. She'll come across as mannish to a lot of men. She'll also view most men as not being good enough. Eventually, she'll find a guy she'll consider an equal, but TBH, it's 50/50 that he'll value her, as opposed to say, fucking her for awhile, getting bored, and moving on to younger pastures.
She's doing all that stuff to fill a void, whether she realizes it or not.
The next time you are in such a situation, don't act impressed. See it for what it is: a woman acting out a male role. Now, there's nothing wrong with women being accomplished, but if they are some kind of over-achiever, something is going on there, under the hood, and I don't mean the clitoral one.
So yeah, she got to you. She intimidated you. Just pretend like it never happened. Don't give up on her, but go and game other women.
reddick1 6y ago
"I can't put my penis in your college degree"
[deleted]
breakdatass 6y ago
I would have been a bit intimidated by an accomplished girl when I was younger but I quickly came to a realisation that none of them had the same forward momentum as I did.
A lot of them have wealthy parents, with a handful of tutors and not a worry under the sun. Whereas I lived in social housing growing up and I was still on par with them. (which is why they even entertained dates)
[deleted]
El_Barbosa 6y ago
You didn't kiss? Why? Also, the fact that you are basic is your own fault, improve.
AutoModerator 6y ago
Why are we quarantined? The admin don't want you to know.
Register on our backup site: https://www.trp.red and reserve your reddit name today.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
[deleted]
RPOpenUp 6y ago
Easy conclusion on this post would be:
OP has oneitis.
But, if you dig deeper and try to learn something from this, it's that Lifting and career is important, but it's in no way interesting. To really stand out and be intestering, you need to have hobbies or interests outside of gym and work/study. I think OP should work on this, just like I should
Welendas 6y ago
At least 80% of the people at my university are just studying and working to pay for their studies. They don't go out or even train, so seeing this girl shocked me.
Noodlesoupe2 6y ago
And those 80% are permavirgins. Try harder
Howdoiusesync 6y ago
well look at that you observed that what a majority of people are doing rn. I can concur that is the same at my Uni as well. You know what though? I still do other shit.
mmfootball927 6y ago
who the fuck cares what others are doing you boring fuck
vinzesq 6y ago
Had the same experience with a girl like that. 24, masters degree (engineering), beautiful (hb7), reads actually books! (Not only chick flic). Absolutely dedicated to her career, in shape. I was so engaged with a intellectual discussion, I totally failed to flirt, tease or something like that. Hell, not even tried.
Fabulous-Craft 6y ago
Why? Because she's an average looking girl who goes to school, has a part-time job and a couple of hobbies?
You must really suck then if she blows you out of the water.
imtheflower 6y ago
Lowered yourself to her level huh? Isn’t she a lucky woman. I hope she finds out your true nature real soon and moves onto better things. You’re pathetic and unworthy
[deleted]
[deleted]