Came in here ready to do battle over calling The Beach Boys beta, glad you saw it’s a charade. Those guys pulled (and still pull top tier GILF ass) in their day. Women love the idea of the romantic, but hate it played out - especially if it happens frequently

Women, even ones that are ‘independent’, want you to make their decisions for them. Have dinner ideas, date ideas, fun sex ideas, etc. sound like a lot of work? Then keep doing it until it becomes normal for you as brushing your teeth

Good post

How many times can you look your own set of issues and realize that, if you were spinning 3 plates, none of whatever shit your girls is giving you would matter?

I still think that a confidence on your abilities to refresh the roster is also a strong factor on abundant mindset. For some reason this is usually left out from the equation.

When I got my first rosters spinning I was somewhat outcome independent only if I had 4-5 plates. If the number dropped to 3, I kind of started stressing. At 2 plates I started feeling neediness altho I could suppress it.

Right now it's a different story. Even tho I had no plates (lets say I moved to a new city), I would be feel abundant - actually I'd probably feel also excited in the new city because I could hit the clubs an reform my roster in new environment.

Multiple plates won't give you abundant mindset if you don't feel like you are capable replacing a broken plate with a new quality one in couple of weeks.

How can you rely on the promise of a woman to love you forever when she can't decide what to eat for dinner.

Oof...

That Saving the Best article is sad.

I remember I wanted to have public sex with my Ex ltr and she never wanted to do it , but she told me that she had sex in a classroom and in a school staircase I think with some past dude because they both didn’t have a place they could bring the other too.

The fact that she was willing to have public sex with him and not with me lowkey bothered me but I rationalized it away - “oh they just didn’t have free cribs, I’m lucky she has a place to bring me now so I can fuck whenever, besides she said the sex wasn’t that good anyways, it was uncomfortable and they almost got caught once and she was never so scared in her life.”

I don’t know, I’m not dying to have public sex but it is something I’d like to say that I’ve done. And the fact that she couldn’t give that to me but gave it someone else got me a little tight.

I did other exciting things though to make up for it but still. It’s interesting, you never really know if you’re pushing your girls limits or if someone else after you will.

It's what I have been saying all the time! Just because she cooks, cleans and fucks you every night doesn't mean she will do that once she gets what she wants.

These women are smart, they know what to do to make a man fall in love with them. You need to reject the idea of ever finding a perfect partner. That's not the reality and it never was or will be.

Yep marriage and even LTRs are TRP on hard mode.

With plates, FWBs, they bring their best and then they fuck off.

With LTR and beyond, everything about her stays with you and affects you.

Her problems can become and will become your problems.

Guys approaching your plate?

Don’t care she’s a plate. Don’t care about she does or doesn’t.

Guys approaching your wife?

Now, you have to care about she does. Does she decline, implicitly accept or straight up accept.

Then, do you dread, ignore or just cut her off.

You have to be ready for anything that gets thrown your way.

This only comes from experience.

Older posts/comments from here used to talk about the 25,25,25 rule before LTRing any chick.

• 25 months of TRP.

Big difference between day 30 red pill me and day 250 red pill me.

• 25 lay count.

Get the experience of different kinds of women under your belt and try many flavours before choosing which woman is your ltr type.

And by having a n count it gives you abundance and a mentality of bitches ain’t shit.

• 25 years of age.

Vast majority of LTRs starting really young don’t last.

This isn’t the 1950s anymore.

If you are crazy/bold enough...

Think you are strong /insert any adjective enough for marriage, then:

• Prenup (judges have thrown prenups out the window so beware).

• Put assets under someone’s else name.

• Marry a woman with a similar economic background.

See all this effort you have to go to when you can just spin plates?

If you want kids, why not have them outside of marriage?

Women will break all kinds of rules and do all sorts of stuff for high value men.

Fuck on the first date ✅

Take on similar political views even if they went against hers ✅ (Some good posts couple years back talked about girls mirroring/copying their high value male’s habits and thoughts).

Lie/steal from friends and family ✅

Most of my school friends, mid 30's, are married with kids. Half of them are misserable, the other half are unhappy. They are happy when they get sex from their 30+ ugly wives and make jokes about 'happy wife, happy life'.

Was talking with one a few days back and he was excited to meet up again this summer with a mid 40 women he banged last year. This guy is crushing it in his career and looks good. He could have 20 yr old 9 and 10s without a problem. I showed him a few nasty naked pics that one of my 25yr old plate sent me and, while drooling on them, tried to spin it that he preffers quality women over girls that have a lot of mileage on them. All while being on dry land for months and excited to fuck a 45yr old cheating wife 2-3 months from now.

Their kids are sucking the life out of them. I never heared one say how happy he is to have kids. Not even 'it's hard bro, but it's worth it'. They don't have time to raise them of course because they need to slave away at their jobs. Most are fat and none work out.

White picket fences for everybody.

The problem with modern partnerships is a lot deeper than "men are romantics and women are opportunists."

The problem seems more like "people nowadays are so entranced by meaningless distractions they lack direction, both in themselves and their lives, leading them to become stale." They all desire some fairy-tale but do absolutely nothing to make it happen.

So yeah, there's an issue with women letting themselves go and allowing child-rearing to take over their lives so they become nothing but complacent mothers and wives. Likewise, there is a problem with men thinking all they have to do is work a 9-5 to pay for essentials and not pursue anything outside of that to better themselves and their families.

Of course some people are happy with this, but others grow bored and look for their own growth in other people. Ideally, both the man and woman should seek self-improvement and keep the relationship going by growing together.

I mean, is it easier to just do your own thing and fuck whoever? Hell yeah. But for some, there's no fulfillment in that. Instead of an end goal being "forget LTRs and fuck everyone" wouldn't a better one be "if you want an LTR, build it with someone who shows a consistent pattern of self-improvement and a strong desire to cooperate with you."

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It’s a great post- thanks for the ideas and info.

The best posts always make you sweat a little...:-). Still, ‘hard mode’ didn’t turn out to be ‘impossible mode’ thank goodness.

It always makes me happy to read a new post from you! thanks

Another piece of gold, thanks Vasiliy!

Would you write anything on how to have children? It's a legitimate issue that I don't see well covered in TRP. How do you have children without exposing yourself to the will of a crazy ass woman?

Probably one of the most valuable posts I've seen on here in recent memory. Bookmarked.