I had a massive falling out with myself - a dissociative period if you will - after coming to the realization that my gf/fwb (the definition of the relationship was cloudy at the time due to the mindset I carried) was in fact not in love with me, as I her. This was a few weeks before my nineteenth birthday.

I was fuming. I slept.

Over the course of the night something changed in me. It honestly really felt like I woke up as a different person. I was livid at everything. I blamed my dad for raising me so skewed, I blamed my mom for being timid (she in fact is the strongest woman I will ever know, God rest her soul) I blamed my gf for playing me.

I blamed and pointed fingers and yelled, yet the mirror was the last place I looked. I was disillusioned and it cost a piece of my soul.

Then as if the fates had destined it the whole while The Red Pill found me yet I almost tripped again, but this time I was wiser.

I'm; not what I ought to be, not where I want to be, not where I will be, but, I am thankful that I am better than I used to be.

Amen.

Men complaining about anything look petty. It doesn't matter how you look. Worrying about look is for for women.

You as a man aren't supposed to care about how you look you're supposed to care about doing what's right.

Many of our social ills are caused by the technologically assisted invasion and colonization of the male sphere by females. This masculinizes the women and effeminizes the men. Men acting like women and women acting like men. Men caring about stupid shit like how some dumbass random thinks you look.

When women colonize a hierarchy they subvert it’s telos (goal or aim). Is stem about science tech engineering and math or about empowering women and showing representation?

A large part of the problem is that we are playing two games at the same time and unaware that there are two games going on. We are playing a status game and a competence game. An individual fitness game and a socialized fitness game.

The status game is biological in nature and mediated by brain chemestry dopamine and serotonin. We’re almost always playing it, we forget we’re almost always playing it, and it is a zero sum game. To gain status you generally need to take someone else down in status. The status game is entangled with sexual selection and thus drives a great portion of our mating behaviors. the status game revolves around how people “look”. people who say things like “yikes” or “cringe” or “that’s a bad look” are playing the status game. In status games rules are fungible and those with high status don’t have to comply with the rules. The status game can be thought of as symbolically feminine due to women’s default mode being the status game. women love the status game, are always playing it, practice it from a young age, and primarily view the their world through this lense. I think The status game is mediated by the personality factors agreeableness and neuroticism.

The competence game is social in nature. It is a learned behavior either through socialization or induction. An inductive logic is a logic of evidential support. The competence game was created by men and is in a sense “the patriarchy”. A learned multigenerational behavior that creates a competitive/cooperative framework upon which we have built our civilization. Those participating in the competence game cooperate in teams to compete against other teams. this is sports, this is business, this is everything except family and sometimes family. Individuals must allow those more competent than themselves to structure the hierarchy. if you suck you get a low rung and low “status”. if you piss excellence you get a high rung and high “status”. the way to climb the hierarchy is improving skill and competence. In the competence game the rules aren’t fungible. Everyone must follow the rules.

as you can see, those who don’t understand the difference in the games and confuse competence status for status status, mostly women, play the competence game as a status game and start socially slitting throats with interrelational aggression, gossip mongering, character assassination. women come into competence hierarchies and wreck them by trying to play the status game.

Smashing the patriarchy IS LITERALLY destroying the idea of competence.

The difference between men and women can be summed up in saying men play to win and women play not to lose. These are different mental starting points and they lead to different conclusions about the world life and everything.

And to the degree we ever did actually have a patriarchy meaning a male only sphere of power, the institutions and systems we created the social technology we created ran on male cogs. our social machines were built with and created running on male cogs. But the male only sphere of power was degraded through techno utopia. women colonized what had traditionally been male only and thus inserted female cogs into our social machines. Female cogs act differently in our social machines and to the degree the percentage of female cogs increases the function of the social machines derange.

High Agreeablness people live in these two logical fallacies

Argument from Adverse Consequences: Asserting that an argument must be false because the implications of it being true would create negative results. For instance, “The medical tests show that Grandma has advanced cancer. However, that can’t be true because then she would die! I refuse to believe it!” The argument is illogical because truth and falsity are not contingent based upon how much we like or dislike the consequences of that truth. Grandma, indeed, might have cancer, in spite of how negative that fact may be or how cruelly it may affect us.

Argument from Personal Incredulity: Asserting that opponent’s argument must be false because you personally don’t understand it or can’t follow its technicalities. For instance, one person might assert, “I don’t understand that engineer’s argument about how airplanes can fly. Therefore, I cannot believe that airplanes are able to fly.” Au contraire, that speaker’s own mental limitations do not limit the physical world—so airplanes may very well be able to fly in spite of a person's inability to understand how they work. One person’s comprehension is not relevant to the truth of a matter.

Our society (personal experience mostly women) also constantly run with this fallacy; think racism and sexism. They're abstract concepts not real things.

Fallacy of Reification (Also called “Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness” by Alfred North Whitehead): The fallacy of treating a word or an idea as equivalent to the actual thing represented by that word or idea, or the fallacy of treating an abstraction or process as equivalent to a concrete object or thing. In the first case, we might imagine a reformer trying to eliminate illicit lust by banning all mention of extra-marital affairs or certain sexual acts in publications. The problem is that eliminating the words for these deeds is not the same as eliminating the deeds themselves. In the second case, we might imagine a person or declaring “a war on poverty.” In this case, the fallacy comes from the fact that “war” implies a concrete struggle with another concrete entity which can surrender or be exterminated. “Poverty,” however is an abstraction that cannot surrender or sign peace treaties, cannot be shot or bombed, etc. Reification of the concept merely muddles the issue of what policies to follow and leads to sloppy thinking about the best way to handle a problem.

It’s not red pill to get into engineering? What else are you going to spend your day doing? Trying to hit it big on YouTube or working at a grocery store?

Good read. Nicely done, OP.

As a career beta, finding the pill has changed my life. However, lifelong habits are difficult to change and knowing you also find climbing the mountain of becoming the man you want to a long and arduous process makes me feel like I’m not fucking up, I’m just like everyone else. Struggling but not giving up to be the man I was born to be.

What about incels? The incels that will keep hating women because they cannot get laid and invade all male performance subs.

You misspelled roids.

Don't do them kids, they aren't helpful

from what I've noticed, if you look deeper, the rage doesn't come from the red pill facts themselves but rather by the realisation of how you've been brainwashed all your life.

It's like the Truman show (well, ideologically speaking), you find out that your values were all made up to keep you in a "mental prison" (ok fair I'm not the best at expressing concepts)

then one day you find the truth and get mad at all the time you lost and how you've been kept in "captivity".
Either way, who you are is defined by what you do after you've been set free, some go MGTOW which is just a pussy way do deal with it (ironic)
some come out on top now that they learnt the rules of the game they can finally play it.

Anyhow, I wouldn't blame anyone that goes through the rage phase AS LONG AS IS WITHIN REASON, I mean, vent it out and be done with it, move on you already got it out your chest.

In conclusion, going through rage is a normal part of the process, nothing crazy, saying is petty is same as a court judge telling you "cmon don't be petty" after you been wrongly jailed for decades, is only natural to be mad, but then you don't just go commit actual crimes just cause you already did the time

i got over it pretty quick; i just stopped considering women sentient. now i treat them like i treat dogs or cats; with kindness, but not respect. with care, but not consideration. stress levels in my life have dropped to almost zero since i made this switch. it's a mindset thing.

Chill, Drink Beer, Fuck hot women, smoke weed

yes spend years practicing this-

Fully awoken at 18 due to fucked up events. Can confirm the rage just continues... I’m 21 right now. However I’ve taken action and become better for myself. My main need now is to create an ecosystem of contentedness with myself which is really hard. I have dysmorphia due to trauma, and I hate being alone. I want to know how to not be wanting for anyone.

Getting laid is a PERK of having a solid foundation as a MAN.

Nailed it.

Thank you. This is a much needed post. It hurts to see such valuable information getting a bad rap due to the angry users.

One other thing that I think fuels this rage is the language treating women as objects used by many contributors. I'm not sure what purpose it serves, but a lot of raged members seem to take comfort in finding such language in posts and use it to fuel their rage. Hopefully, this gets addressed at some point.

I think I am a redpiller and I do understand why women behave this way. But I still feel disgusted by their behvior, their ignorance and selfishness. Their vicious intentions and trying to manipulate men. I don't think I hate them though. Do I still need some time to progress?

After reading your article, I was thinking that maybe that's because I haven't fully gotton used to the red pill lifestyle and are expecting something else?

[deleted]

The red pill is the most educated and formal social subreddit on this website.

The anger phase isn't about women at all. I'm not going to mince words -- they are angry because they realize they are losers. They are not the men they thought they were, if they ever thought about it at all.

And of course they'll blame others for their predicament, like women and Disney and anyone else they can think of, but that's just what losers do. Blame other people. Not taking responsibility for their own mind, body and life is what made them losers in the first place, so it's not terribly surprising they continue the process when reality kicks them in the balls.

Men who otherwise have their shit together stumble across TRP, discover a couple useful perspectives, incorporate them, and move on. They will probably never post. And if they do post, it won’t be to angrily whine about their failures to a bunch of strangers.

I mean if he's young it's just the testosterone talking.

Sure lower testosterone as you age brings some negatives. But it also brings clarity.

Everything we do is just to get laid... is that true?

Remember kids, orgasms last for mere seconds.

If you want to get laid, you need smv and game, not EVERYTHING. Your mission is ultimately for you as a man - it does not exist only to help you get laid.

Once you have success gaming and getting the sex you dreamed of, you realize sex and love is a very important part of life and relationships, but it's the icing on the cake. It's not the Holy Grail that will fix all your miseries once and for all.

Sex isn't the ultimate finish line which once crossed will finally give you ultimate completion and fulfilment - just because hormones are raging doesn't mean all these stories you hamster to yourself are true. The End and Happily ever after only happens in movies and romance novels.

Life and reality flow on even and especially after an orgasm. The baseline is the only true constant. Everything else are just waves that come and go in cycles.

So develop that baseline. No emotional state is permanent. Only the ever present moment always is.

What's the point? God, these young chaps all ask this question and use it as an excuse to stay demotivated.

They don't realize how much they're killing themselves subconsciously with that question. The mistake is in the question itself. If you look too far into the future for hope, you'll only become victim to seeing the void or the grave - life isn't there, it's here. You only see death in the far future because life exists now. There is no salvation in the far future. The future is being created now.

Create your future now, and you'll see the void of nihilism doesn't exist except in your own head. Those who keep asking "What's the point?" are victims of an imaginary assumed future that doesn't really exist.

The point isn't in the future. It's creating the future now.

The distinction between how a BP man with a successful life and career experiences a RP awakening and how a younger man who hasn't had those things does is an interesting one. It illustrates why the same advice to both isn't appropriate. The younger man needs more of a self improvement focus than the older beta. The latter should incorporate some edgy bad boy behavior.

The anger phase exists in young men who newly discover the Red Pill because they realize that they've been fooled all their lives by blue-pilled delusions that society has been pushing unto them. For some, this happens in the wake of a divorce or having an LTR cheat on them, and their idea of a oneitis gets shattered, and then follows the realization of the hypergamous nature of women.

Of course, guys end up with two choices: accept the new reality that marriage 1.0 has been scrapped and make the most out of their Red Pill knowledge and navigate this new environment to their advantage. Or stubbornly hold unto one's blue-pilled delusions that a society-wide return to traditionalism could be still possible.

That being said, however, my concern lies in the those opposed to the Red Pill misinterpreting the anger phase as a core characteristic of TRP, and thus dismiss the manosphere as a whole as women-hating incels. In a way, shaming men who undergo the anger phase (and equating them with the Red Pill in its entirety) seems to be a method of deflecting criticism of feminism and toxic female behavior.

[deleted]

The anger is part of the acceptance process though innit?

Although I agree that you can’t be mad forever.

Women are women, and they’re going to women. No point in hating them for it, best to understand why they do what they do, then exploit that knowledge for your own gain. Don’t hate a sloot just cause she’s a sloot. If you’re not gonna fuck her, why do you care?

The only guys that stay mad forever are the ones that dream about getting married. Depending on what country you’re from that’s akin to financial suicide, and for some that’s a tough pill to swallow.

Guys interested in this topic will find the below useful:

On Hating Women, Especially For Guys in the “Anger” Phase

-I Don't Hate Women and I Don't Think Anyone Should.

Why are we quarantined? The admin don't want you to know.

Register on our backup site: https://www.trp.red and reserve your reddit name today.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

Even if I am the most happiest person in the entire universe, it still wouldn't stop me from thinking that this universe is worth destroying because of all the gruesome, excruciating suffering it has cause to many sentient beings.