I keep seeing the same trend over TRP/askTRP: the belief that western / US girls are all fat and entitled, while at the same time believing that SE Asian or Eastern European girls are some sort of slim submissive unicorns who will be ready to give them all their agency just because. As if one's US driver's license suddenly removes all social anxiety, 50lbs extra of fat and general bitterness, and makes them a 12/10 that all women would bown down to on sight. Except western women because y'know, they are bad hurr durr. All fat sluts who want a jacked Chad... Unlike those russian unicorns, amirite?
Bullshit.
Are you listening to yourselves, people?
Here are some examples, in no particular order. Literal quotes from the manosphere:
Exhibit 1
American girls are great for fwb or not to be taken seriously
Exhibit 2
I don't think many people realise how hot Russian women are and how much they love foreigners.
Exhibit 3
Women are not the same wherever you go
It's as simple as:
All Women Are Like That - AWALT!
Go to Russia, China, Malaysia, Mexico, Germany, South Africa or fuckin' Sweden. Wherever you go, all pussy is the same. It's female nature. You can't change that because you went somewhere where they speak a different language. Yes, they have different cultures and that somewhat restrains girls (and boys, don't fool yourself), but that's just nature being suppressed - and it will shine through when that pressure is removed. See the studies where the less societal pressure on people (e.g. nordic countries), the more difference between genders - which goes to show how nature is still there, waiting for the external pressures to go away so that it can shine through. Same shit with women's nature that's being suppressed by a particular culture. Don't be fooled - she's not an unicorn, she's just being coerced by society into behaving well. Give her the opportunity to go to the US and find a horde of unrestrained female sexuality... and see how she behaves.
In other words, quit fucking hamstering shit away and blaming it on the US women. Instead, go lift, get a haircut, work on your social skills and stop whining.

PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL 5y ago
Hypergamy is everwhere. Your unicorn doesnt exist. Think about it logically. She's in some second/third world shit hole and she instantly hooks up with you. Why is that? Was it because of (insert bullshit here)? No, it's because of hypergamy. She thinks youre better than 99% of the men in her own country/of her own race. Is it because youre the top 99 percentile? Fuck no.
TheGreatConst 5y ago
Who gives a fuck about the reasons? You acknowledged yourself that Asian and Eastern European girls are different. You just said that "it is because they are more restrained because of their culture". Well, exactly. Humans are different from other animals. The problem with AWALT (i.e. all women are hypergamous) is that if you turn it around, then you will find that ALL men are polygamous. And it is the truth. But there are countless men who stay loyal to their gf/wife. Women are humans too, there are female nuns that don't have sex for their whole life and there are women who don't cheat and stay loyal to one man. And, as it seems, it is more likely for Asian or Russian girls to be like this.
chadtwashington 5y ago
If you can't handle an American woman, you can't handle any woman. Asian and Slavic women will chew your Incel ass up and spit it out. These boys have Tinkerbell syndrome.
red_firebox 5y ago
Could somebody please put out the same post about prostitution. Prostitution won't change shit.
clanleader 5y ago
I think the OP completely misses the point honestly. Yes, AWALT, but your SMV in non-white countries as a white male goes up drastically. Heck, even in white countries (such as South America) where feminism isn't rampant, you can walk around as a God if you're from a first world country but are cultured in local customs.
But I agree that if you're fat, balding, and have no game, it makes no difference. It isn't a sudden elixir. However if you're from a first world country but make the effort to learn a foreign language, work out, look the part, then make no mistake, your results outside of feminist countries will be drastically better than within brainwashed feminist societies. Any man who has traveled already knows this, provided you don't fit some obnoxious stereotype.
That obnoxious stereotype involves making no effort to learn the culture of the country you're in, and thinking that you deserve some special privilege. If that's you, then yeah, it's going to suck everywhere. But I don't think men that end up in places like this sub are that dumb.
The fact is, drastic effort in western societies leads to little reward for most average white men. Whilst doing the same abroad can lead to major reward. That is the truth.
Correct, there's no such thing as a unicorn. But imagine being level 80 instead of level 20 in two separate environments where the women are the same. Which environment would you choose?
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Blaming society for your poor results? Sounds like feminism with patriarchy.
Work on yourself. Be masculine. All women over the world (both local and foreign) will drool for you.
There's no excuses.
clanleader 5y ago
It's just simple observation that as a first world foreigner abroad you will enjoy massively more sexual attention than locally unless you're a famous celebrity or sports star. Abroad you enjoy a level of fame that is incredibly hard to achieve locally, all with far less effort being required. If you're in the top 0.1% of men, or can aim for that, kudos to you. Yeah. Location doesn't matter. For the rest, location changes everything.
dspjm 5y ago
Yes, all women are the same.
Noeltheapperantice 5y ago
Malaysian here. Can confirm. Especially the Chinese ethnic women there. They demand men to have a MYR5000 monthly salary job althoigh fresh grads earn RM 2500 monthly. They see men shorter than 170 cm as manlets and they even demand a 7 inches cock (instead a 6 inches cock common in the U.S). For the transportation, NO Malaysian Cars (Proton, Perodua except Proton X70) and they demand men to drive at least a Japanese car. when it comes to argument, if you men scold at her, she will scold you back with a more angry tone! They even expect men to be simps and treat her like a princess/empress. I've even seen one case that her BF has to gift her a lipstick monthly to prove that he loves her! This situation is More significant among the Malaysian Chinese, but rarely on Malays and Indians.
Cute-Contribution 5y ago
I think the main factor is that, whatever the small benefit to loyalty and good behavior you may find with women in these countries is, you'll face the issue of keeping them from western influence (plus their natural hypergamy). This is obviously something greatly out of your control, so the best method in keeping one of these women in line is to increase your own smv/game them, like the red pill advocates regardless. Plus if they like western guys they probably have other western friends and influences, so theyre not going to be hugely different anyway.
Cherubin0 5y ago
Russia has like the highest divorce rate in the world.
alien_race_420 5y ago
I just want an Asian girl cause of the slanted pussy
cyclinglad 5y ago
I’m a trp lurker but I feel compelled to post about this subject. My background, I’m a Western-European and have dated extensively in Eastern and Central Europe in the last 5 years. I’m talking about real physical dating and not the online bs. Ryanair and Wizzair make it relatively cheap and easy to travel and I also travel regularly there for business. There have been periods where I was in one of these countries EVERY single (long) weekend. I dated Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarus … so I would say that I'm pretty experienced when it comes to the local wildlife
My findings
Dating in Eastern-Europe is great fun but only for guys who know what they are doing, a lot of guys lose frame (and their wallet!) because of all this abundance of beautiful women and the attention they get from these women. If you want to get somewhere you will need to be willing to invest a bit (aka paying for dinner). Oh and forget about the online bs, they are so used now by the worldwide attention they get from all the beta boys with tinder passport that physical presence is key.
Nocryingok 5y ago
People are certainly DIFFERENT when they live on the other side of the world. They are not SPECIAL, but yes they are different. Telling men that they shouldn't think of dating foreign women is like saying you shouldn't think about changing jobs: "quit fucking hamstering and blaming your boss. Work harder!"
All of this still conforms to AWALT
FalseWoodpecker9 5y ago
Ok, someone please respond. Why are 'housewives' better than other women in a marriage? Can't the father be the stay at home parent? Can't the mother be the breadwinner? Please just say your opinion on this.
42gauge 5y ago
The average member of either won't be happy. Look up marital satisfaction/divorce rates for couples in which the man makes less than the woman.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
This is all covered in the sidebar material.
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hockeyaddict87 5y ago
I hope at some point I get to travel the world and experience different women. I’m in college rn
travel-bound 5y ago
Been travelling nonstop for 4 years (own an online business). I'm on the second half of my 30s but if I was your age and wanted to travel I'd look into "working holidays." Many countries have them. It's mostly aimed at college age. But it lets you live in another country for a year and legally work a part time job while there. Can basically go work retail or a coffee shop or something random like that 25 hours a week. Enough to cover your basic living expenses if you're smart with your money. And the rest of the time for some fun and adventure. Start looking into it if you don't have another source of income for long term travel. Ignore family and friends who suggest you wait to travel later. This is jealousy bullshit. My biggest regret is that I didn't start traveling earlier in my 20s. You can also look into studying abroad, or even getting a full time job overseas in your field after college. But honestly, for travel, sooner is always better than later. Just have to wait out this coronavirus stuff for borders to open up again. I have a hunch it will all go back to normal shortly after the next US election in November.
HowardJRoark 5y ago
no bro. no.
yes, hypergamy applies but the values and morals instilled in more trad cultures throughout childhood have very, very real effects on a girl.
VadimDestroyer 5y ago
As another Russian here living in France I just can say it’s much more easier to get a pussy in my home land country. And I don’t know why. Probably because there are just more girls there in general or I’m a better looking than an average Russian guy. Whatever the reason it’s just a fact.
ManOfTheTimes 5y ago
Culturally-programmed entitlement is basically the reason in a nutshell. The (western) women are taught that they have extremely high value which is a major (and admittedly well-authored) con by social architect types. The glaringly obvious truth is that modern women are (generally) a net-negative; all factors considered.
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when_its_too_late 5y ago
I can testifying. I'm Ukrainian/Russian and hang out with hundreds of then who came to the states. Within 2 years they have all degenerated to ZERO. Worthless. The pressures back home kept them in shape and sharp in mind. In the states they have become fat, lazy, worthless, regardless of age. Those that do stay fit do it to beta buck men with their smoking hot looks but that's all they have going for them.
AWALT
Strigon 5y ago
Sorry bro but I disagree. It depends on the country, but I have only seriously dated foreign women. Typically they’re raised with better values in their culture. I don’t see a lot of the narcissism/arrogrance/self-centeredness like I see in western women. American/western culture has had a somewhat negative influence on how women behave in a LTR now. Compare your typical Saudi or Filipino woman to your typical American woman. Women in these cultures are raised with different values. I can’t explain it as well as maybe someone else can, but I’ve had the experience and I’ve noticed the differences. And I believe that a lot of these women from other countries carry that behavior into their adult life, especially if they were raised in an environment centered around religion
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
How is women doing whatever is socially acceptable any news? I don't give a shit if an Asian girl is conservative because of society or integrity, if she's acting right she's acting right.
Yes, women are sluts if left to their own devices. Shocking. Humans learned this which is why I think when conservative societies arose celibacy was so hammered upon and slut-shaming was at its top. Yo have no slut-shaming, you get the shit show that is the dating scene nowadays.
RealMcGonzo 5y ago
Asians are usually thin, long hair, nice skin, no tats or nose rings, no hairy legs or armpits. Not always of course, but a higher percentage than your typical USer. Pretty much on pair with trust fund babes.
I know, exceptions abound. Just speaking generally.
IterMercator 5y ago
Yea I like foreign girls, I know AWALT so mentally wise it's all the same but physically at least they look better, I would definitely say your average (Southern/Eastern) European^[1] or Asian is much better than your average USer or Northern European.
Also you got the issue where in NE or the US, you got ugly 4s thinking they are 7s just because they aren't covered in tats or hair, granted again AWALT as soon as they realise their worth on the sexual market, but it's still preferable to deal with someone who isn't a complete prick the moment you see them because of an inflated ego
[1] Northern European has pretty much been exposed to Feminism, which pretty much gaslights the society into believing that women can have all the benefits for being a women, without having to put the effort in to actually look decent (for the most part only job they have)
itsfedge 5y ago
I’m currently in Japan and that’s true while they are young. But they hit the wall Dale Earnhardt style. Most look like methuselah after 30
SteveSan82 5y ago
I don't know about that. I see plenty of good looking women in their 30s-40s here. But it could be the makeup and fashion sense fooling me.
I was so use to morbidly obese american and 3rd world women dressing in jeans, t shirts with fat hanging out along with no fashion sense Chinese with no manners that my eyes were probably relieved to see women who look like women.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Meh. Plenty of western girls like that, too. Just don't fuck a tattooed/fat/hairy girl, is it really that hard?
CommercialLaw7 5y ago
It really is that hard. Last I checked the numbers were 7/10 American women are Overweight/Obese.
Now add in other things like drug use, feminist attitude, ect.
You are looking at 1/25 or 1/50 women being marriage material and those women are also going to be getting offers from lots of other guys as well.
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Statistics:
Pick any 100 women in USA between age 20 and 35 and a good 60% are overweight if not morbidly obese
Pick any 100 women in East Europe/Asia >20 yrs and <35 and you’ll be lucky to find even 1 who can be considered overweight
Not saying they are some special unicorns just raw mathematical stats in your favor or you can waste time and filter fatties all day
Wabbajak 5y ago
Not really true. While the share of overweight people is lower it is not ~1%. See this map for reference.
Europe is somewhere between 20 and 30% obesity rate while SEA is pretty low with 5-10%. Also no significant difference between western and eastern Europe.
Edit: people not women
Edit2: Here is the map I initially wanted to post, scroll down to find "women over 18". It clearly shows women in SEA are low in obesity rates (<5-15%) while Eastern Europe is actually worse off than Western Europe, except for UK.
chomponthebit 5y ago
EXACTLY describes the majority of Western women, whereas the majority of, say, Korean or Ukrainian or Russian women won’t get so much as a tat. Yes, tats are on the rise, but not like the West’s epidemic-like proportions. And sure, foreign women are shitty in other ways, but their physical game far exceeds Western women’s edit to separate quote
YoungUpNdComing 5y ago
What’s wrong with tattooed girls ?
chomponthebit 5y ago
Poor impulse control. If she makes a forever decision to mark her hip with a god awful astrological sign - within an hour of her friend suggesting they should - she can probably make a forever decision like getting knocked up after looking you straight in the eye and saying, “It’s okay, you can come in me. I’m on the pill”, even tho she ain’t and you’ve only been fucking her for a week.
Tattoos, piercings, neon hair, extravagant vacations, unaffordable apartments/cars/tit jobs, orange tans, inch-long nails, goth, punk, or Kardashian style all scream crazy
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Have you been to the street recently?
Plenty of western girls without tattoos or hair on their legs / armpits lol
Just go to a bar with young girls man.
Sgt_peppers 5y ago
i Live in colorado and no, every woman you see has tatoos, im down to say something to 90%+
Transport127 5y ago
I’m from Colorado too. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe 10% have tattoos
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totallymanlytears 5y ago
Colorado girls aren't fat and hairy, well some are fat in denver but definitely above average in general. Lots of tats though I'll give ya that 100%
Sgt_peppers 5y ago
Actually colorado is one of the fittest states.
prettyawsm 5y ago
Out of curiosity, how's Denver's like? Game, girls, life in general? I'm Russian who's once almost moved to denver lol.
totallymanlytears 5y ago
I don't live there anymore but above average from my experience
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Don't know where you live, but that shit ain't as common as you think, nowadays. Especially if you go to a liberal college, which is where most women are going into, anyways.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
I go to the US (California mostly), and I visit liberal as fuck universities. I see hot women everywhere. What are you talking about? There's a smoking hot hoe on every corner.
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Without tattoos or legs on their hairs? Of course there's hot women out there but that doesn't mean they don't have tattoos or hair on their legs.
Whales are also pretty common
Edit: *hair on their legs lol left it there cause that sounds ridiculous
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Yes. Plenty of those. Cute ass white girls who gawk when I say hi to them. (I am white and jacked, although not tall)
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wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
This is just incel cope. Man up, lift, get a haircut and get the slim blondes. Have you ever been near a university? I am not from the US, but I do travel there often, and I see plenty of young, hot as shit women. I have no idea what's with this sub saying all girls are fat lol
Plenty of good looking girls. Don't look at statistics, because fat women are at home rambling on twitter, not on the street waiting to be approached.
prettyawsm 5y ago
People don't travel much I guess. I also go to places and wonder how nice the new things are. However I'm so done with russian girls they're all are tattooed, fat and hell def poorly behaved in my opinion.
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wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Eh, I don't know about that.
Yes, girls get big egos and yes, they think they are goddesses on Earth.
But a strong frame can shatter that ego in seconds. Read /u/HumanSockPuppet 's guide to getting laid like a warlord - he explains how, the hotter the woman, the harder she shit tests you and (ironically) the easier and faster she is to get.
It doesn't matter what ego she has. She is a woman. It is tangled deep into her labyrinth of insecurities. All female ego is nothing against a man's frame.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Just an fyi, the guide to getting laid like a warlord isn't one of mine.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Oops. That was dr. warlord, you are right. You just write too many good guides and I end up mentioning you by default
russian_writer 5y ago
Russian here. Can confirm. However, the real difference is that our women are not taught to actively hate men unlike their western counterparts. But they seek to exploit men for their own gain, like golddigging and shit
buttgoogler 5y ago
See, it's because unlike Western Europe, post-soviet government doesn't have their backs if shit goes wrong, so they can't act like western women.
ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
Same here in Japan. Can confirm. At least we don't have that toxic western feminism nonsense.
growingstronk 5y ago
The thing about russian women that people have to understand is that there is a huge surplus of attractive women and a deficit of attractive men
I think it was the year 1924 in which 80% of all men that were born had died by the end of world war 2. Russia still hasn’t recovered from that level of destruction to their male population. No one ever talks about the fact that war tends to kill the most alpha men too. Couple that with poverty and rampant alcoholism outside of Moscow and maybe St. P and Kazan. and you get a much larger amount of attractive women as opposed to attractive men. So essentially the opposite relative to my experience in NYC and the US at large.
So ultimately the point I’m trying to make here is that russian women are only giving you what you want because they have to. They have to compete harder against more and more attractive women, and they don’t really have the choice to start a well paying career and have the government take care of them, outside of Moscow and once again, maybe St. P and Kazan.
I’m pretty sure that the divorce rate in Russia is really high, which is reflective of just how much russian women can change when they enter marriage. They can be very punishing of weakness, and can easily flip 180 at the slightest hint of beta. We talk about monkey branching a lot on TRP, but western women aren’t NEARLY as punishing.
WITH THAT SAID, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s much easier to find a good feminine women who has good nurturing instincts and is an excellent choice for being a wife, as opposed to western women. Just be more careful with vetting and protect the bag at all costs.
WaspOnAWall 5y ago
[I think it was the year 1924 in which 80% of all men that were born had died by the end of world war 2. Russia still hasn’t recovered from that level of destruction to their male population.]
That's almost 100 years ago, how could they have not recovered the balance of men/women by now? Even if you count from 1945, the 18 year olds from then are 93 now. Are you telling me that the surplus of 93+ women is somehow disrupting the sexual market ?
growingstronk 5y ago
You can google it yourself. Ukraine, russia and Poland have the highest ratio of women to men in the world.
Obviously it’s not a super crazy difference but it’s noticeable. That combined with the fact that a lot of Russian women are hot and a lot of Russian men are broke alcoholics, skews the ratio even more.
KinkysMT 5y ago
Can confirm.
Source: I lived in Russia for half year and banged few russian girls there and in my own country. Last girl told me exaclty that.
redditthrowaway1478 5y ago
Agreed. American who flirted with a Russian woman while quarantined.
Caveat: she was a unique character in that she had a pretty rough upbringing. So take everything I say with a grain of salt here...
My experience was that they are about as red/black pilled as it comes.
They don’t care about you, just your money and alphaness.
They staunchly maintain the belief that men are only ever interested in them for sex. If a man isn’t, he’s not alpha. Pretty fucked up logic loop...
They will branch swing if the opportunity arises.
They are ok with a an appropriate amount of physical abuse outside the bedroom and even expect it (wtf?!). If you don’t express this, then you’re not alpha.
slu_x 5y ago
Really? Giving this dude upvotes even though he admits his wall of text is based upon one (1!) experience and not even a lay? What the fuck
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growingstronk 5y ago
Well that’s a bit of an extreme. There are a lot of Russian women that do believe in love and are very loyal, moreso than Americans even. Especially with red pill culture beginning to take control of the mainstream nowadays.
It’s just that poverty and alcoholism can bring out the worst in people. And most countries have a lot more of it than America.
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Mytriptorussia2018 5y ago
Nah Russian women objectify us and expect us to be disposable. Russian women love simps. Actually misandry is promoted in Russia even in comedies. Have you watched the Interns? The In laws? The last one even justifies male domestic violence.
One last question. Are you yiddish?
LethalShade 5y ago
Where are women taught to actively hate men? I'd say both genders have resentment towards the other because they have unrealistic expectations towards them, mostly propagated by modern media but I wouldn't say it's unilateral towards men.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Anti depressants and blaming are rife. Who else is a woman supposed to blame for the pain of Her life?
SeasonedRP 2 5y ago
On nearly every U.S. college campus.
LethalShade 5y ago
How so? I've been on many campuses and I've never seen this.
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My first year at college (2015, so before Trump, in
FilthadelphiaPhiladelphia), I got stuck with this awful, obese, feminist libtard for an English professor. You just knew when you walked in the door and saw her blue hair...She made us read and discuss all these articles and book exerpts about how apparently racism was the worst it's ever been, "fatphobia" is literal discrimination, graffiti is just rebellious "art" (*gag*), and how men are abusive, rapists, misogynistic, and get paid much more than women working the same jobs. She always skipped over or cut off anyone who disagreed with her/the author's opinion, and she graded those people's papers worse. It made for a lot of tension, considering there was like, one white male student, a white female student, and I, in total, who disagreed with her, and felt like we were pitted against a whole class full of angry students of color and misandrists, and there was no way to emerge without feeling like a target was on your back. It was whack, man.ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
'Diversity is our strength' 'All men are rapists' 'White men are evil'
The endless Feminist SJW plague that's destroying western nations everywhere.
44361066 5y ago
Aren’t you guys more redpilled by nature because of abundance mentality? Much more sane and beautiful russian women than men, is what I have experienced.
Btw I’m turkish and I’ve hooked up with few russian girls and they all complained about russian men, while being submissive and all with me, can you tell me why they do that in your perspective?
russian_writer 5y ago
Default relationship in xUSSR is beta-bucks style. Just like everywhere else. But compared to American white knight gynocentrism russians indeed can appear more “redpilled”.
As for Turkish guys. They’re probably looking for money or you’re really good looking one. You see, Russia is racist as fuck and such couples are looked down upon. So she would rationalize her choice as being better. Women are emotional, not rational remember that. They rationalize reality to reflect their feelings not vise-versa like men do.
44361066 5y ago
Tbh I don’t have experience besides moscow and st petersburg girls. I feel like to them I’ve been fairly good looking and stylish and well traveled enough to pass the expected racist aura.
They didn’t come off as wanting my money, you can’t fake attraction. It was just the admiration to a high value male which i was getting. Or maybe they’re oscar players, idk.
My impression is that any girl below 8 there is starved of high value males’ attention, so they throw themselves at any above average long term prospect. They all wanted commitment.
Mytriptorussia2018 5y ago
Woah woah woah. What do you mean Beta-Buck style? How are we redpilled? Объясняйся давай.
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drbrockstar69 5y ago
How are Americans viewed in Turkey? My next trip is planned for Istanbul and Izmir, mostly for the Turkish beef and food, but wanted to see how the party and intimacy is there. Is the political tension still high? Next spring seems to be the goal as of now
currysoslutavuk 5y ago
We think Americans are just tourists as well as the others. Our food tasty for sure. I didn't understand what did you mean by "political tension"? There is no tension here political or not. Coronavirus bugging our head just be sure you don't have the virus please. You will be welcomed in Turkey as long as you promise to not to bring any democracy to our country. I saw what kinda democracy did you guys spread to other countries. We are happy with are way. Lol. Have fun both of those cities are great for night life.
drbrockstar69 5y ago
Can’t wait! They both seem great. I might have read something about potential risk for coup like in 2016 but I’m glad to hear it’s safe
currysoslutavuk 5y ago
Didn't know there are Turks in redpill. Well that's a lovely surprise. And yes I do also think Russians are redpilled as default too.
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currysoslutavuk 5y ago
Girls looking for attention big time. Males are mostly stuck with their families. From the ones that i've met there is a large portion of beta male's living here. I don't know about the sex life of the Turkish couples but I believe that most of the Turkish males don't have enough experience to make women go wild. I don't think picking up someone in relationship not that hard if you don't have manners. Girls are growing up with lots of attention but in my experiences picking up beautiful ones are easier than the ones below 7. Women same in everywhere but Im telling youTurkish girls are keepers. I love that side of em.
ShutArkhamCityDown 5y ago
Girls are highly validation-seeking and men here being way too thirsty (I mean really, really thirsty) doesn’t help either. Majority of men are showering girls with attention through social platforms, tinder etc. thus this raises the difficulty of the market. I could say that there’s a balance of 90/10. There’s even a saying that “Turkey is the Africa of the sexual market.” lmao.
Plus, although the casual sex is common, there is still a high number of virgin women who are “keeping themselves for their future husbands”.
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odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Not at all. Usually, the conservative women (muslim conservative) have every attribute that an undamaged woman could have.
They cook well, stay at home to raise the kids, look up to their husband, keep minimal interaction with other men yet alone flirting... kind of women that your mind could be at ease with.
The problem is that majority of the Turkish soceity is stuck between Western values, trends and conservative values. That creates a big trauma on the relationships as people get sort of confused about what kind of behaviour is right or wrong.
ShutArkhamCityDown 5y ago
The latter is more viable. Youth in western parts of the country aren’t really religious, I know a number of atheists as much as muslims my age. But the roots of current situation has probably stemmed from the religion.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Ha, yep. A lot of Russian men, for whatever reason, have self-destructed with macho alcoholism, and therefore rendered themselves unmarriagable, or even dangerous to be around. It's like what I wrote above about the supply and demand situation. Russian women are stuck with a shit supply with a lot of bad quality, just like American men! Lolololol. My Russian ex-gf had ZERO interest in Russian men. They were socially awkward, according to her. Shrug.
CommercialLaw7 5y ago
Well they are still recovering from ww2 and fall of Soviet Union. The economy is pretty bad there too and many Russian Men who can't provide probably turn to drinking.
I find it strange that with the atrocities that Japan committed like unit 731 torturing American, Chinese and Russian POWs to death, and more, that the U.S. could completely forgive that and ally with them but we can't ally with Russia? Makes no sense to me.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Well..... that's quite a can of worms.
TLDR; The United States and the Western powers were most afraid of the USSR because of its supposed adoption of a communist, or state capitalist ideology, which meant no private ownership, which threatened all the interests of the billionaires and millionaires in the United States, as well as the hereditary aristocracies in Europe that had transmuted themselves into capitalist dynasties to maintain their power and privilege without resorting to the old con of "divine right of kings."
However, there were many sympathizers across Europe and US that believed communism could work, but most people didn't want to risk it in their own backyards. Russia was used as a guinea pig, because it was relatively depopulated, away from Europe in a kind of frontier area, and its aristocrats were incompetent and lost control. Unfortunately, it devolved into yet another type of oligarchy, or dictatorship, with similar control apparatuses, like secret police, bureaucracies, work camps, all of which already existed in capitalist countries.
The danger of it spreading all over the world was very real, due to its mass appeal, the red signifying the red blood that unites all of humanity, as opposed to say, the "blue blood" that separates the wealth aristocrats from everyone else. Notice how while the Union Jack and the Star Spangled banner and the French flag and a few others have a mixture of red, white, and blue, signifying a unity or alliance of different classes, the USSR and Red China had only the one red color, signalling a monolithic unity that suggested no class differences, and no inherent differences in human ability. This is appealing to the vast majority of people, who aren't special, and who mostly live desperate, hardscrabble lives. However, whether or not people are actually better off, ultimately, is a difficult question, because no Communist society has ever existed that wasn't immediately under assault from powerful outside forces, necessitating it to resort to martial law to prevent being completely overthrown. That's why the Soviet Union had so many purges. The danger was very real, that it would be infiltrated and overthrown. Another kind of reaction to the threat of outside control is religious fundamentalism, IMO.
So, anyway, the USSR could have conceivably taken over Europe, so Hitler, who was Time man of the year, was funded by the USA and Britain mostly, but then, unwilling to be purely a sacrificial lamb against the USSR, he took over the whole continent and attempted to unite it against the USSR, but was ultimately defeated, however, he accomplished the Allied objective of drastically bleeding and weakening the USSR, and they came into the European Continent, and mopped up the depleted German forces, and then established Western Europe as a collection of tribute paying vassal states, while Eastern Europe became tribute paying vassal states to the weakened Soviet Union. The Cold War was a contest to see which control system was superior. The capitalist one succeeded by offering more incentives and theoretical class mobility to the striving classes. But after the Soviet Union collapsed, a lot of those incentivizing reforms were rolled back.
All of the systems are predatory, engage in forms of "human sacrifice" and suck in their own way. It's hard to know all the details, given all the lies that are thrown around by the people that run each system, accusing all the others of being worse, while hypocritically engaging in the same crimes.
CommercialLaw7 5y ago
I mean you could make the same argument about communist China but we allied with them and traded with them.
I think the whole fear of communism was overblown and distracted from other real issues which is why were in the position we are today.
Also USSR wasn't going to take over anything, their technology was worse than Germany and U.S. at the time. Germany was the bigger threat.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
It's easy to say all this in hindsight, at the time, before WWII had bled the USSR dry, they were perceived as a credible threat, because they were the product of a successful revolution that had toppled an incumbent aristocracy, and also because they had a vast amount of territory and resources to draw on. Also, during WWII, they demonstrated a fanatical ability to coerce their own people into extraordinary acts of self-sacrifice. The Germans may have had superior technology, but that didn't stop the Russians from successfully pushing back at them when the Germany army over-extended itself on the Eastern front. The Russians simply had more numbers to draw on, and they were willing to sacrifice huge numbers of personnel to achieve their objections. Doing this also delayed the German advance long enough for the winter arrive, and while their technology was superior, they lacked advances in their own biology to endure the frigid weather which the Russians were better adapted to. One has to appreciate the irony of them running into the exact same problem Napoleon ran into, even though they had next generation technology. To occupy territory, you have to have boots on the ground, and if the men in those boots are freezing their asses off, it's not going to go so well.
Also, the communist sympathizers transferred a lot of technology to Russian and China because they wanted a balance of power, and now a one-sided nuking. There were also several Cold War era incidents that brought the world very close to ICBM exchange. There was a fear of a preemptive attack.
However, the real fear was that Communism would prove to be a superior way of organizing society, and that, once the bugs were worked out, it would be spread, and the "free" world would be overwhelmed by insurgent communist states. For most people in the world, it would appear to them, at least initially, that they have nothing to lose by switching to communism. For people who are dirt-poor, and being exploited, it's just a change of bosses, which creates opportunities for advancement for early adopters.
By contrast, the Chinese had a less of history of imperial aggression outside their own borders. They were such cultural and ethnic chauvinists that they didn't view the world as being worth conquering. They sent out expeditionary forces on several occasions, and drew that conclusion. Today's China is a different story.
44361066 5y ago
I had two moskovich girls on separate occasions fly on their own expense to spend a week with me in Istanbul.
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You weren’t the only guy they were seeing. Let’s call a spade a spade, but good work. I’ve been with somewhere between 15-20 Russian women(not bragging just letting you know my experience) and I won’t be going back to American women anytime soon let’s just say that.
I have been with 1 Turkish girl too. Man. She was in my top 5 for sure. She dyed her hair blonde and carried herself like a russian woman and even had very pale features for a Turkish girl. Amazing woman
44361066 5y ago
Btw just reading your edit, it’s all about supply and demand as the other commenter pointed out. A beautiful turkish woman will have so much options here it’s ridiculous, and I’m not turned on by the average ones. But as the pandemic closes gates for international dating it seems i must learn how to game the local good ones now.
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^ gonna SUCK that's for sure. International (aka what we were doing) is the only way to go for quality. I gave up on local in USA. it's that bad :/ I don't know how to explain it but it really is. Even the 18,19,20 yr olds all getting fat. Crazy.
44361066 5y ago
We slept together the whole separate two weeks man. Also russian women are nice. Much better than the average plate-material women anywhere else. They just age badly, that’s the handicap.
I’m not marrying a non-virgin so ltr seems out of question with them tho.
Scabsandwhich 5y ago
Did you meet these women on call of duty?
44361066 5y ago
Where else could it be, dumbass?
Sobinia 5y ago
It's hard to find non-virgins in their 20's these days, even in places like Eastern Europe. They are usually either very religous, ugly, are afraid of intimacy (due to trauma, body image issues, etc.), "technical" virgins (ones that have anal and oral sex to avoid having their hymen broken), have a low sex drive or suffer from mental issues like Asperger's Syndrome. If I were you, I wouldn't look for a virgin (but if you find one, then good for you!), but instead, date girls that can count the amount of partners on the fingers of one hand and only had sex in LTR's. Also, just because a woman's a virgin, doesn't mean that she won't become an old hag and the relationship won't go downhill, so unless you are 1000% sure that you met your soulmate, don't marry!
ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
A lot of them think just because she's a virgin, she'll be their partner for life. Integrity and strong traditional core values over anything else but then again, there's no 100% guarantee.
44361066 5y ago
I live in turkey man, totally different story here. Although the virgin ones are boring, there are still good ones. I’m not in a hurry. This mentality also keeps me from falling into oneitis with sluts.
The downvotes up there tell me this sub is so west-centric.
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I’m western also and these cucks here hate you here bc they have no clue that this shit even exists. Their loss. Ignore them
Sobinia 5y ago
Well, if there are lots of virgins in Turkey, then go ahead and look for one if that's what you really want. Just remember that virginity isn't a guarantee of a girl being good wife material.
44361066 5y ago
Of course man. That’s a template. Not the only indicator of a quality relationship. But i want babies and I’m not putting mine in a used pussy.
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DaBrokenMeta 5y ago
Yup, all the Селёдка под шубой and hours long Chi convos leaves Russian women with a different ambition haha
Gotta love em tho
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boomshinesaigon 5y ago
Malaysian here who's living in Melbourne (SJW capital of Australia) and lived in Adelaide & Perth. Chicks here are definitely way more entitled and most of them bring nothing to the table for a LTR, same applies to ABCs.
Far cry from the traditional chicks from South East Asia, although feminism is slowly creepy in. Having said that, hypergamy still applies but I find traditional chicks more submissive and pleasant to date. Interesting to note that this leaves me with a conundrum, being a first gen immigration who moved to Australia, I am considered an outcast in the eyes of the ABCs who grew up here, despite being fluent with English; which severely limits my dating pool when it comes to a LTR.
Sciptr 5y ago
Do you have experience in the area you’re talking about? While I agree that running off to a different country to solve your lady issues is a bad idea,
I do know women are different to a tone in other countries and it’s not simply suppression. Once you bring them to the west and they absorb their environment, then it’s different.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Yes. I am originally from eastern europe (russian heritage).
I think western women are far better. They do not hide their nature - rather, they flex it for you, so that you can see what they are, and act accordingly.
On the other hand, eastern women are incredible deceivers. They still chase Chad, but they will go through insane mental hoops to fuck over a western guy, take his money, and still go fuck Chad.
It's useless to fight against nature. Accept it, and then become successful. Running to other countries is not an answer.
Sciptr 5y ago
PM me as I’d like to exchange experiences. I believe you may have a skewed perspective based on your experiences.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I think you have very biased opinion of russian women. How wide is your experience with them? A few town clubs?
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TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Lol the most beautiful thing is when RP uses this unironically. I'm so wet right now from your alphaness
IterMercator 5y ago
Honestly when anyone on this subreddit has to actively say/prove they're alpha, it just reads as "i'm a prick"
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is reddit filled with so many losers that they fixate on one thing? there's nothing in my entire statement you can disprove
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Maybe if you want people to take your statement seriously don't be a retard
LotBuilder 5y ago
Some of you young bucks would be wise go watch Eddie Murphy RAW. Before Eddie did all these lame ass voiceover movies he was savage AF.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnHL_mSXRY
Zech4riah 5y ago
So, are you saying that end result is still that Asian / Eastern european girl is better LTR material regardless what is causing it...?
You do understand that you pulled the rug under your legs when you said that? :/
The thing twist here is that if you get an asian or eastern european woman, DON'T bring her home. When their societys influence starts to fade out, they will be just like western girls after couple of years.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
So leave a fine ass capitalist country (any western country) and go into poor socialist Russia? Or into one of those poor Asian countries?
What are you on?
Zech4riah 5y ago
Let me refrase because my point was: Don't bring them home if you want to keep them as unicorn as possible.
This is a bit off topic but: There is plenty of westeners living for example in Thailand. You can get a whole villa with part time servants in nice weather conditions without making even 6-figure income. My old colleague founded his own company and operates from Thailand (IT business so he works remotely for European customers). Meanwhile he lives like a king.
You don't have to move to the shittiest town in the middle of Siberia.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
I've been to Thailand. The quality of life, no matter how rich you are, is still piss poor compared to good western countries.
Why not man up, be dominant, and get the bitchy western girls to be submissive sluts for you, rather than chicken out and abandon your whole life just to score some foreign pussy?
Zech4riah 5y ago
Well you, depends how you compare. If you compare to US it's not a big of a difference. If you compare to nordic countries, there is a bit bigger difference but nothing significant when you pick right place to live.
Dunno, I never thought getting a girl from abroad. Doing just fine in my own country. Generally getting a wife from asia is for low value betas (their perceived value goes up in poor countries just because they are a westener).
PS. Tone down a bit that internet alphaness. Don't be so insulted.
RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
Can confirm. I've dated Eastern European women and they were sluttier than most British girls I've dated. Same with religious women. They're all the same underneath. They just have different levels of social conditioning to keep them in line. AWALT.
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SteveSan82 5y ago
More than likely, if British women were dressing feminine and acting feminine, you would be wanting them.
Atuli 5y ago
Any tips on how to fuck Asian girls? They all seem super shy especially on tinder. I match heaps of white girls and a few Asians but the Asians never really seem to respond.
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SteveSan82 5y ago
Doesn't matter that they are Asian. Use game. In America and here in Japan it works the same. But due to corona a lot of women wanting attention are on Tinder wasting everyone's time. Just do logistics. They make excuses, say maybe, dodge the question, next them
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
You are simply exploring shit. It's fine. I assume you're young - go and fuck women from all places and all colors. Have fun. Eventually you'll fuck white and british women too. Don't worry too much over it.
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wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Never let people get in your head. Use your rational male brain to decide what's best for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
magicm222 5y ago
I could pardon you for everything else except not having a good haircut.. unforgivable!
redvelvet_oreo 5y ago
The thing with women outside of the USA in places like SE Asia or Eastern Europe is that women know their place. They understand their role of being the woman. You are the man.
That being said these bitches fully expect you to play your part. If you behave like a simp you will be treated like one accordingly.
The problem with American women is they want to be sluts, hate men, and expect people to respect them due to their "independent" free lifestyle. This why alot of them end up old, childless and miserable. Never figured out they are a women and how to play their role.
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Culture matters. Yes, all women are like that, but the culture we are raised in (and at the environmental micro level: the family we are raised in) matters and shapes us to our core. Thinks of it as hardware and software. Women (like men) around the world have pretty much the same hardware: they are hardwired by evolution to look for the best mating opportunity (we all know what this means: women enjoy strong men who have status, money and power, men enjoy women who have the bodily features to successfully give birth). Women thus practice hypergamy and shit-testing everywhere. That doesn't mean that women don't have different software around the world and therein can be considerable differences which would make someone from Kazakhstan more favorable to someone from the United States as a mating partner, or the other way around depending on your personal preference. Shit testing can be more subtle or implicit in other parts of the world.
Coming from the West to Eastern-Europe or Asia you will notice you enjoy more status as you likely earn more money in a day than the average dude there earns in a whole month--this will make you enjoy a difference in treatment from the women there, which can be mistaken for proof of women there being much kinder to men. The one thing to note is that there is absolutely no good reason to go through all the hassle of maintaining relations with people on the other side of the world if there is not some tangible benefit in the near-future: the grass isn't greener, or not so much that it is worth your time for that aim specifically. Live it up while you're there, but don't fall into the trap that there are unicorns across the border. Just a different breed of mares.
Sigma-Angel_of_Death 5y ago
I've lived in Russian for 6 months now. For all their "bitchiness," Russian girls are still more pleasant, easier to get, and easier to keep than their American counterparts. Sure, maybe the cultural supresses their "true nature," but it does a damn good job. They won't worship you for being an American, but it definitely doesn't hurt. After my experience here, I could never go for an American girl again.
SteveSan82 5y ago
I live in Japan. Japanese women make better girlfriends if she is hoping you will marry her. If she isn't then she can be just as bad as a Western woman.
That perfect girlfriend does a 180 the moment the marriage papers are signed. Sex is for having kids only, questions about you are just to use info against you later, treats everything like a competition.
They generally are not fat. They do dress feminine. So even an ugly woman will catch your eye initially just for her femininity. But don't let any of this fool you.
I laugh at guys saying they will go to the Philippines to find a "traditional" wife. Filipinas are huge sluts. It's the single mothers capital of Asia. Her little brother is probably her son.
Mylaur 5y ago
How did you come to live in Japan?
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
It's almost... as if... all women... are like that... AWALT :-)
SteveSan82 5y ago
Whether its a fat fucking bitch in the Hollywood Hills or a shy cute feminine Japanese girl. Once she is bored, finds another guy more interesting or you lose frame, it all goes to shit fast
flybywired 5y ago
I was going to correct you and say that the "poor" filipinas are like that but then I thought a bit about some of my friends from the upper classes and realized AWALT. lol
tekn0_ 5y ago
Curious as to what you meant by the upper class friends. Lost the logic here
flybywired 5y ago
Basically the Filipino's living in the gated communities and with the privileges and comforts similar/exceeding those in the western countries in some cases. I'm talking living their whole lives with maids and drivers.
I was first thinking that most foreigners imagine Filipino girls as the stereotypical petite exotic brown islander girls that are just waiting to latch on to a foreigner and never let go but then I realized that even the rich girls in the rich neighborhoods also swing like crazy and are just like the stereotype.
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oic123 5y ago
Of course not all western girls are like that, but I can tell you for a fact that an increasing number of western girls are becoming very different from Asian girls, in a number of negative ways.
Western girls seem to be much more disrespectful, selfish, arrogant, stubborn, ego-maniacal, and less willing to accommodate you or your needs/desires, just to name a few examples.
SteveSan82 5y ago
I find asian women more stubborn. Asian wives are a nightmare when it comes to disrespect. You really need to maintain frame at all times or they will eat you alive
logitech757 5y ago
60% of all American women are overweight or obese (read FAT ASSED). The other 40% are HOT. I got a Hot babe.
If she weighs more than you do, you should PASS on that one
Rememberthecodex 5y ago
If she weights more than 60% of your weight, don't fuck her.
Also you need to lift.
AhuraMazda88 5y ago
Depends on the culture but you attract what you are. If you’re on top of your shit no girl would wanna ditch you.Girls don’t want to be a winner, they want to be with winners.
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Lots of men have a cringey view on how much easier it is to get more attractive European women. While in my experience it is true that European women are generally cooler and less retarded than US women, without any game or being a fat tub of shit you're not going to do well. That being said there is some truth in that it is slightly easier gaming more attractive Eastern European women, in fact the only country I've had straight up hot women approach me was in Ukraine, this is more of a statistical fact. There is a higher density of beautiful women in Ukraine than there are in the US, also a higher density of ugly Eastern Men/Turkish rubes with absolutely no game so I think average men have the potential to game a few points higher than they normally would in the US. Also those trying to find beautiful women around the world need to keep in mind that they need to go where they are exotic. White guys do really well in Brazil, South America, and Asia. Spanish/Dark hair men do better in White countries.
Furthermore I have to disagree about Eastern European women cheating. I absolutely think that women are fully capable of cheating regardless of their background, but the only country I've seen women loyal enough that even though they are into you wont even give you their phone number is in Ukraine (I'm assuming this would be similar in Belarus, Moldova, Russia, Georgia, etc). To give you a counter example almost every girl I've gamed that had a boyfriend or was married I made out with or gave me their number, and would neglect to tell me that they had a SO.
Hooking up is a bit different in Eastern Europe too, it could be my shit game, but without fail every girl I've hooked up with just wont fuck until the 3rd date. This was a meme I originally read on the Roosh forums that surprised me how accurate it was. It's a shame the forum was changed because all the datasheets about Eastern Europe were 90% true and very useful.
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Sour_Octopus 5y ago
Report her to the state and her workplace. She committed a huge violation in her profession.
Fuck that ho with the law
Rememberthecodex 5y ago
You should make a field report when you feel better, a lot of people can benefit from your experience.
Also writing about it can help you grow.
amphix339 5y ago
U should make a main post about this, would be very insightful for others and self reflective for you
partyboob305 5y ago
we both used to be hardcore Christians, and that was what kept the girl in place so long, as soon as we stopped believing in god, suddenly there was no cultural pressure on her to be loyal or to not be a hyperslut“
You can’t seriously believe this do u? U got played homie don’t use her not being Christian as an excuse
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
sounds like you dodged a bullet.
ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
I can relate with something similar except I lost a quarter of my heart and spent 2 years agonizing and mourning my loss. That was 14 years ago and it was the one and only time I had someone of such nature. You learn the hard way, trust me.
partyboob305 5y ago
Bitterness and holding grudges is a female trait
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Sad news, but good for you that you are recovering. Glad you understand it. You made a mistake, but it's never too late to man up, get your shit together, and start enjoying life as you should. Read more Uncle Vas cuz he's a badass :)
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rockyp32 5y ago
I always thought that way im not religous but literally god is like a father figure and by following christianity your pretty much getting guided by your father an all powerful being that constantly reinforces good habits and happiness.
Most people feel they need something to be happy which is natural but somehow religion bypasses that shit. Its like when you tell yourself your enough it doesnt work. But how about when the being that created life itself is telling you to love yourself and forgive yourself and be happy. be yourself ETC
weballinweballin 5y ago
My friend went through the same situation a few days ago. Navy dude, he was in Guam quarantined and he couldn’t go home. Him and his relationship with his girlfriend were a “wait until marriage” type one. That is, until, the woman fucked two guys, one of them being his best friend... That disgusted me.... Hope she rots in hell dude. Best of luck to you!
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ProductivityMonster 5y ago
no, I think it's healthy to react negatively to someone doing something awful to you like cheating on you. People may have the natural instinct and opportunity (sexual market dynamics) to do something awful, but it's still healthy to react negatively when people act on their destructive natural instincts. Don't rationalize it away as "All women are like that" - hate the individual, not the entire gender. At the same time, do understand that the instinct is there and protect yourself financially and emotionally. Honestly, having multiple partners is a human instinct, not a gendered one - it's just the average women generally has more opportunity/temptation than the average man.
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It's "normal" and "expected" to experience a plethora of negative feelings when a woman does you wrong. It's *healthy* to feel that for a brief moment, understand why you feel like that, and then get over it and back into your frame. It's healthy to believe that you are the prize, and you deserve somebody who will treat you like royalty, and that the person who did you wrong is missing out, not you. It takes so much more energy to be angry and bitter all the time, and can shoot you in the foot when trying to form new relationships in the future. Like you said, hate the individual, not the gender.
rockyp32 5y ago
I think the same but honestly i think about it sometimes fucking ur friends girl. I of course wouldnt want to hurt them but there is something alluring about that. But thats just no fap talking. Ive realized being on no fap how hard it must bbe for woman not to cheat. When i was a fapper i was completley content with whatever gf i had. but on no fap i just want to spread my seed everywhere.
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rockyp32 5y ago
I think that’s a bad mentality because ur fighting nature itself. It’s just how it is csnt hate them for and u shouldn’t only focus on the negative. All I was saying is when no gender faps they become horny ass animals and promiscuous.
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rockyp32 5y ago
ive been trying to retian for over 2 years im just now getting the hang of it. Im probably on a month streak my man and all i can think about is fucking women. i cant imagine how it must feel for woman most of whom dont masturbate. i think men are just as promiscuous tbh. but maybe im wrong. It may seem hard in quarantine but thats no excuse
loox1490 5y ago
Whenever I think about dudes dating foreign women, I think of the guys from 90 day fiancé lmao
Juicemoneyrecords 5y ago
Best show on TV. I’m addicted to the delusion.
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amwfhunter 5y ago
Those dudes are worse they want to marry them. Nothing wrong with dating a recent immigrant or if happen to pick up in that country.
prettyawsm 5y ago
Lmao you obv haven't traveled shit.
munt4life123 5y ago
For real dude had no neck, but I think he was rich af atleast lol
tigerjaws 5y ago
The no neck ed guy wasn't rich, he was broke as shit
The david guy was though, spent 300k on a fucking russian chat bot
Arenaceousx 5y ago
No neck Ed is my favorite. He is so fabulously talented at being cringey and disgusting
TheDeadlyZebra 5y ago
One big difference is the geographical sexual markeplace.
A Western man has higher SMV in an Asian country, especially the less developed ones.
But on the other hand, an Asian-national woman with mediocre SMV in her home country, will suddenly skyrocket in SMV in the West, and there is an increased probability that she will either begin disrespecting her LTR or pursue hypergamy.
That being said, I highly recommend for other Western men to try Asian sexual markeplaces. The cards are stacked in your favor. Just don't bring one of those cards back home to the West.
Domebeers 5y ago
I knew a muslim guy, western guy, who once brought in a wife from his country because he thought they would be more 'womanly'. The girl was fine when she got here, but the moment she got some western friends, she started going western woman. And all western woman is, is a woman with less societal restraints put on her behaviour.
Anyway he ended up shipping her back when he found out she was learning to read.
OP, good post. 100%.
42gauge 5y ago
By "shipping her back" do you mean he left the US with her?
S4alishow8 5y ago
lmao when your wife be showing too much ankle in public
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TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Made me laugh more than it should've.
AvengerSentinel 5y ago
Same shit over here man, that comment fuckin' killed me.
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LSTrades 5y ago
LMAOOO he wiild for that one
BootyConnoisseur_ 5y ago
This sounds exactly like one of Eddie Murphy’s skits.
lala_xyyz 5y ago
ah the bush bitch I still watch Eddie's stand up shows from time to time, and it blows my mind how red-pilled he was decades ago when was only 20 years old
hondusa01 5y ago
Eddie! What have you done for me lately!?
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Texan2116 5y ago
I know quite a few Pakistani men, due to work...more than a few of them have mentioned preferring "American" Pakistani women, versus native ones...Apparently the native ones are just itching to get here, and become problematic.
s86ahmed 5y ago
I rarely comment on RP posts but at least local girls tend to be honest and are used to the culture whereas girls from back home can be a mixed bag. You never know what she'll be like once she's here.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
paki girls LOVE the white meat bat. hehehe
IntelligenceLtd 5y ago
ngl I struggle to find any sympathy with a dude who buys a wife
monsieurhire2 5y ago
What do you think men who go to 12 years of school, then 4 years of college or more, just so they can get a credential that MIGHT get them a high-paying job are doing? They are angling to purchase themselves a wife, with lifestyle and status as the coin.
What about the guy that lifts and self-improves, etc? Same thing. It's more or less the same coin: hard work.
Just imagine if a bunch of guys all just committed suicide, and there were like 10 women for every guy. Lots of women would become lesbians, but there would be WAY less incentive for the guys to compete with each other to see who could best prostitute themselves to the woman. Instead, it would be the other way around.
Now imagine if they all formed a cabal where they determined that they would all act like disgusting, lazy, fat, slovenly pigs. The women would still hold their nose for that dick. Just look at all the good-looking guys who wind up with grotesque hamplanets.
It's all about supply and demand, as well as awareness of it. Most guys are only dimly aware of how they are being given into bondage, and then encouraged to borrow money for the privilege of more bondage!
44361066 5y ago
Do you think it’s ever worth it to play in a city where supply and demand is heavily screwed? Only route is further self improvement?
monsieurhire2 5y ago
I mean, if you're stuck there, you can always use it as hard mode practice. I think the mistake men make is letting the rejection get to them without understanding the context. Some guys take it personally without realize the odds are heavily stacked against them when they still haven't even reached their potential.
It's probably best to go somewhere where there are better odds.
Oteshatori 5y ago
Hamplanet! I almost spit out my beer to laugh.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Jeez, have people forgotten that one already? Now I really feel old.
improvingtommy 5y ago
Imagine being so insecure that thinking a girl who can read is somehow a threat to your relationship... lmao
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
I think he meant reading about feminism and mainstream media. It's Turkey, not Uganda...
But yeah, it's still insecurity since a women's ideology doesn't matter if you be the alpha. But again, he probably brought her in to not getting into competing with other men.
tigerjaws 5y ago
Exactly man, I was expecting something like oh she went out on girls night and fucked a male stripper or some shit like 'she became a raging feminist' not 'she learned to read' lmao
mexipill 5y ago
Next step is we become normalized to being cucked.
It’ll take a while, but it’s coming.
BestOrNothing 5y ago
I'm originally from Eastern Europe, but I have spent a coulple of years in the US.
It is true that Eastern European women are more submissive, as long as you are very dominant. But once you slip just a little bit and show the slightest sign of weakness, they will turn incredibly bitchy and punish you much, much harder than US women.
The nature of all women is the same, it just manifests itself in slightly different ways.
Obediah_Stane 5y ago
This is exactly why I'm a huge believer in never showing women a crack in your armor. Ever. Not even once. As soon as they see you are weak in any way, that's the only thing they will remember, not the 99.99% of the other times you were a stoic guardian.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
^ This. If you are dating E.European girls you have to go in like this.
Also true. They can smell fear and will eat you alive.
R9-295x2-x2 5y ago
Eastern European as well.
Yes this is true. Though I feel that Eastern European girls are more obvious about the fact that they want you to be the man, and they will punish you in their way if you slip up to let you know you have fucked up and to shape up.
There is an understanding over there: you will be the man and she will be the woman. No slipping the fuck up, no goddamn trading duties.
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odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Not only these kinda words are unTRP, they also justify the quarantine of this sub.
Hitting a women is an outburst of emotion. Like crying. It's against everything about stoicism.
ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
Once a woman crosses the line and lays hand on you, its over. Walk away, period. In fact, we have the advantage to record and document violence against a partner, regardless of gender. Make sure you record and document that behavior, don't ever think she won't do it again. Believe me. Walk away but make sure you have witnesses and evidence of her violent behavior. Report her ass. A lot of them think because they're women they can get away with this. Don't let them.
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ASTRA-LUX 5y ago
A bitch you chose and only you. When you try to make a wife out of whore, you get what you deserve. You reap what you sow. This isn't TRP ideology, this is straight out incel shit hence the subreddit being quarantined.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
hitting them makes them like you even more
ezragriffin 5y ago
Brock Lesnar would be swimming in poon then. LOL
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
yeah i mean to an extent. not always. i honestly dont have a problem with men hitting women but i would never condone it because i have bad luck
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Mytriptorussia2018 5y ago
Actually Russian women are golddiggers that seek any chance to hook up with foreigners to immigrate. Happened in the World Cup of 2018.
Savaaage 5y ago
The belief that any woman outside of the US is waaay more feminine...I've always seen this as grass is greener syndrome lol
SteveSan82 5y ago
There is SOME truth to it but I think once you actually live overseas with a Red Pill lens. You soon find women overseas can be just as much of a fucking headache.
After living in Japan I still find the women more attractive and certainly make better girlfriends but they arent as interesting as they appeared when I first arrived. Especially once you start to pick up Japanese and realize they talk about the same boring dumb shit as American women do.
Plus I think Japanese women are more likely to cheat while married. And I don't mean flirting with guys or texting an ex. I mean they fuck other men while married.
Dls95405 5y ago
Can you blame us? American women are insufferable.
Savaaage 5y ago
This is exactly the point of the OP(and mine). Generalizing all US women as insufferable and everyone outside of it, as angels.
Dls95405 5y ago
Poor, poor American women. Fuck off.
helenvsgladys 5y ago
Thank you for this post. The idea that women are somehow different somewhere else has always seemed extremely bluepilled to me, because it's just another way of blaming "society" for your problems. "The patriarchy is holding me down!" "I was only treated that way because of my race!" "Western society and only western society has brainwashed women to fuck up my life!" The underlying truths of TRP are universal; they apply across all cultures and demographics. Anyone who doesn't get this does not understand TRP.
AColonelOfTruth 5y ago
My dude, you misunderstand. It's not about the women being different. It's about the economics being different.
I'm a paunchy middle aged guy. Occasionally I can bang a hottie under 25 in the US, but it takes way more effort than it's worth.
In one week in Colombia or the Philippines, I can get laid by a different under 25 8/10 or better, everynight of the week, by spreading a little bullshit about how I'll bring them back to the USA on a spouse visa.
There is no comparison. Any american male with a few bucks and the ability to spin a little game can do infinitely better in a 3rd world country.
g0dfather93 5y ago
That's not game that's lying, and you're playing with fire doing that to Colombianas. One of those girls will cut your cock off as you sleep.
ManOfTheTimes 5y ago
That's why you don't let the crazy ones sleep over. You really don't even have to lie explicitly. It's probably better to let your stories and images do the work.
PS Colombianas are the best.
LibertyWalk420 5y ago
I'm russian. Lived in France and now Germany for over 10 years, can confirm that all pussy is the same, the real difference is that the culture, the media and the society doesn't enable their entitlement so much in the east, for example what I've seen time and time again in the west is the quote "I'll believe a woman before I'll believe a man" which is the dumbest fucking thing and people in the east know this, we all know that there are always two sides in all arguments, and that women never know when to stop talking, but I guarantee you if you isolate the women from both hemispheres for a while from all the enabling toxic media there will be more similarities in their behavior then differences, Anita Sarkisian for example, probably the worst example of a modern feminist has Armenian roots, a very strict (and when I say very strict I mean it) country when it comes to women behaviors, wife beating is an acceptable thing over there and everybody thinks that that's the norm. Well if our dear Anita was born and raised in Armenia I highly doubt that she would speak about all the bullshit she does today and instead sit quietly in the kitchen and cook for her husband. I wrote all this to say that all women are actually the same, society is at fault for their horrendous behavior in the west.
KazoBanjooie64 5y ago
So is a Siberian Yupik girl born in Alaska considered Asian or American. If it doesn't please OP, I better break up.
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Dravous 5y ago
well....they aren't wrong about the weight disparity.
adkiller 5y ago
Sex with American born asian girls is way better then asian girls from most asian countries.
travlingsomewhere 5y ago
Disagree with your post. Women from different cultures are different. Fundamentally they are all wired the same but different life experiences makes them different.
Women that aren’t from tier 1 countries like Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc won’t be as “American like”.
tigerjaws 5y ago
Thats what bugs me about shit like this, that tries to generalize the world into small bite sized generalizations
Real life isn't like that. Men, women doesn't fucking matter. Everyone is a person and everyone has different 'nature', we're all genetically different but in general people just wanna be happy and live life. Whether thats by having sex or doing drugs or making money it doesn't fucking matter, men/women do this all over the world. It isn't black and white and for beta ass losers who think 'hurr i got the world figure out women are whores i'm just gonna try to lock down some ignorant subservient slave woman from abroad' is just as bad as 'hurr all women are the same whores i'm going to fuck em all
Just figure out what you want out of life man and find a woman who has similar beliefs, values and is attracted to you and you're attracted to them.
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
non-western women are only "nice" because they live in societys where women are expected to act a certain way. degeneracy isnt tolerated in eastern europe or the middle east.
Red_Pill_Brotherhood 5y ago
Awalt definitely still applies but your relative value is higher by leveraging geoarbitrage, exotic factor, your game/height vs the competition. So location does matter. Its smart to go places where women are for the most part more feminine and aren't as westernized.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Location matters for your SMV but I never said otherwise.I I said women are the same across countries - not that your relative SMV doesn't change.
The-Wizard-of-Oz- 5y ago
Guys it's because you're rich. Er
FJackxd 5y ago
The problem is that America has turned into a heavily gynocentric society. It is only obvious that American men will idealise other women. Unfortunately that's all it is, idealisation. Women are pretty much the same and at the rate at which this 3rd wave feminist agenda is spreading the whole world will soon be in its grasp.
Also there are just too many fucking simps in this world man what the fuck is wrong with society.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
to OP: AWALT doesn't mean they all look the same, it means their biology is the same. There are differences between american women and eastern european / asian women, but, ofcourse, not in AWALT meaning.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
I never said that. Of course they don't lol
That's why you pick and choose a girl based on her looks, not on her "personality" (lmao, what "personality", the fact she likes "hanging out with friends and watching netflix"?)
oic123 5y ago
Why do you keep suggesting that all women have the same personality (likes, interests, etc.)?
Very strange.
reddick1 5y ago
Because he prefers basic bitch American girls apparently.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
In your post, you wrote 3 examples of comments saying not all women are the same, and then went to counter that. Meaning you think all women are the same. I will explain this more, below.
I will give you 1 counter-example, hopefully you are smart enough to make your own conclusion. If you really believe what you wrote, then go and pick up good looking crazy ass feminst. See how far that "only looks matter" thinking will get you.
I went to read your post again, and frankly I find it confusing at best.
The introduction is about pointing out that some people (most likely new to the manosphere) believe non-western women are unicorns. Which is true, some people believe that. I suppose thanks for letting us know that's not true. Example post case #1238432. Unoriginal.
Then you go on and list 3 comments where authors basically said there are differences between western and non-western women. They didn't say they think non-western women are unicorns. They didn't say NAWALT. Yet you read into those comments too much and thought they said that. In other words, you are framing opinions into TRP narrative, reading what you want to read.
Than you go on and make 2 sentences about AWALT. Well, congratulations, another example post case #2134524. Unoriginal and nothing new.
And a quick heads up, learn how to write TRP posts (link in sidebar).
You are a good example why TRP audience is going to shit. Mods are doing awesome job, but they can't ban every single one of newcomers like you. I went to check your post history. You are aggressive and offensive on asktrp for no reason, calling peopl retards and whatnot, and now you come here and write your first post, not following guidelines at all, and, again, being aggressive and non-insightful. Definition of a shitposter.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Hey man, regardless of the discussion you guys had above, don't you think importing a lot of hot Eastern European women could create an abundance mentality at a society level?
I'd like to see western entitled feminists competing their hotter and nicer alternatives.
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hearse223 5y ago
Ill be honest I want a Colombian girl they are so sexy, probably very high maintenance though.
SalporinRP 5y ago
This. Colombian women are the most feminine women in the world.
If you're a dominant man they'll cook/clean for you and fuck you like a pornstar.
BPasFuck 5y ago
Colombianas are crazier than italians. And italians are crazy af.
SalporinRP 5y ago
Latinas are harder to plate in my experience because they require a lot of attention. If you get into an LTR with one though they will treat you like a king
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im2rad2b4go10 5y ago
Dated two Brazilians. Incredibly sexy but need an infinite amount of attention.
TheBerlinBear 5y ago
Dating a Latina rn, what happened when you didn't give enough attention?
im2rad2b4go10 5y ago
My experience with Latinas are that they make great LTRs but awful plates. The girls I’ve dated want to treat you like a king and embrace their feminine role. But they also need constant reassurance, so spinning them flames out the relationship pretty quickly. You get out what you put in with them.
Christiankaleb1 5y ago
She will blame you for the relationship ending. But show too much attention and she will blame you for it ending because you were too needy. Might as well not show too much and if it lasts cool but if not it wasn’t meant to be in the first place. Sounds complicated but really isn’t
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
Dating a latina and you can use this to your advantage. Especially if she's more on the conservative side. She'll pine for you hard, so run a little bit of game, stay high value and at least in my experience so far, we've been in a relationship for a year and a half and she's horny all the time.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Be honest with yourselves, gentlemen. You like women's looks, and that's okay. Pick a woman that makes your eyes happy. They are all the same in personality / nature, so if in doubt... pick the hottest one. That's how your nature works and that's what you want, so why not go for it?
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oic123 5y ago
What the fuck are you talking about? This is 100% false.
Atuli 5y ago
He means AWALT. have you read the sidebar?
g0dfather93 5y ago
Know a friend who dated a Mexican and made the dire mistake of explicitly flexing abundance by way of not paying attention to her. I won't go into details but Latinas when scorned can fuck shit up without fear. What they show in the Spanish/Italian soaps is just the trailer. So yeah, protip, definitely be the man but don't ever piss her off by explicitly stating that to her.
antidoxdevice 5y ago
Dont blueball us bro, what happened?
g0dfather93 5y ago
Started with insane continuous outbursts of anger which he further ignored. Taunts were ignored and escalated. Usual TRP knowledge. She was cornered and almost ready to behave for her man thenceforth. Then this genius unraveled the whole game in front of her as some twisted means of showing her who's boss. Not a good idea in 99% of times.
Long story short she began by scratching off his face and finished by creating a 2 hr long drama at his office which included trashing some of his workplace stuff. Numerous TV soap tropes like ruining a family gathering and slashing tires were also played out. She felt scorned and damn hell hath no fury like her.
She was a long term thing, well loved by his family and work colleagues. So his image was demolished in all social circles. She was a catch too because she was a 9 and homely and loyal as fuck, but damn she needed his attention. Look at a model on a Gucci billboard and she'll go off on him.
So yeah in conclusion, TRP stuff does work beautifully on high attention seeking and possessive women, but better have a will ready if you plan to make her aware of it.
42gauge 5y ago
Then why did he ignore her?
g0dfather93 5y ago
When someone needs that kind of attention,
Sooner or later you need to arrive at an understanding which is agreeable to both parties, but you cannot tackle this head on. The dude was almost safe home as he made the blunder.
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meerita 5y ago
To me, chinese women are the most boring shit ever, along with the japanese. They're 100% asexual. It's easy to score them on tinder, but the moment you mention something sexual they're like wtf and start telling you have no respect. Seriously, i don't give a fat ass fuck but they think their hypergamy and hypocrisy will fool me. Pitiful. They're the most interested and materialistic women over there.
travel-bound 5y ago
"you don't have any respect" is a simple shit test and should be treated as such. Lean into it further. Asian girls who say that are usually the ones who fantasize about dominant men the most. But if you can't get past their shit test, they aren't interested. Source: lived in Asian the last 4 years. Have had many "conservative" women who end up loving to be sexually dominated.
Sod_Off_Shotgun 5y ago
I dated a chinese woman for a little over two years, and this was not the case at all, though I can see it being that way for someone else.
What annoys me about chinese women is they're a lot worse than western women when it comes to hypergamy. This chick didn't care so much about love- she just wanted to bag a CEO.
DennisErectus 5y ago
They look like fucking pokemons anyway. EE the best.
Christiankaleb1 5y ago
Swear to god Asian chick w/ boyfriend for 6 years fucked and sucked my best friend this past summer in front of my town home. In med school and everything. Those unicorns you guys think are out there because of nationality or ethnicity or whatever the fuck..... yeah doesn’t exist.
gum11 5y ago
this isnt my experience. For me, asian girls I've dated have actually initiated hooking up...might be just your style
meerita 5y ago
Well, those who came to spain to vacationing, yeah, easy. Those who are mainland china aren't that. Of course i didn't dated the entire china, but Tinder gave me a good sight how they're.
Vynxe-Vainglory 5y ago
I had a Chinese LTR (here in Australia) and she seemed to think that if I went and lived in China that I would slay there. Like unholy amounts of pussy, rockstar status kind of shit.
I’ve visited there for a total of about a month and I’m inclined to think that she might have been correct.
Sadly, I haven’t visited while actually being single, so this experiment has yet to fully take place, but I did hop on Tinder to see what the matches would be like, etc.
On Tinder lots of matches, and they are retarded and boring just like you say, but in person I was getting a hell of a lot of attention, IOIs, touching, comments about my looks, etc. Way, way more than in Australia / USA.
I think being a fit white guy with blue eyes is a thing there.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Worked in Beijing for business yes, in some areas like Sanlitun, you could pick up quite easily. Also local expats were less difficult because they typically don't like Asian men (too old at 25yrs + or tall for locals too).
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TheMailmanic 5y ago
Calibrate your game dude. The same approach doesn't work on all girls
meerita 5y ago
Very boring to me. I know what turn them on. I did 4 chinese girls in the past and I prefer occident women. Russians, well, those one are another kind, much better.
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okuli 5y ago
I've had Japanese GF, she was really into sex and 100% submissive. Asked to tie her down, choke her, hit her harder. Said that I can do anything I want to her, just be careful not to kill her. Now I have Taiwanese GF, and very similar experience. She is horny af.
Don't waste time with women who are not into sex. I've hooked up with one girl, when I told her to lick my balls too she replied that it's gross. Instant next. Wtf.
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
This is why abundance is so important. One of my first girls not only had a vaginal problem where she physically couldn't fuck but she also didn't give blowjobs. I stayed in there because I didn't want to make her feel bad lol However, my current gf does EVERYTHING and if shit ever goes south I'm never taking in a girl that doesn't love sucking cock, ever. No going back from a wild girl
IterMercator 5y ago
Bruh I get if she couldn't have sex but atleast provide alternatives, good thing you stopped simping that
meerita 5y ago
Exceptions doesn't make the rule.
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meerita 5y ago
They're not from mainland. 5 vaginas doesn't account for the rest
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what makes you so sure you didnt encounter the exceptions?
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meerita 5y ago
I banged all mainland ones, but they were vacationing in Spain, is not the same since they were chasing Chad's cock. But try the average Chinese and you will be surprised how dry they're.
ddelicia 5y ago
I'll hop into this convo, lived in china taught english there for a year. Went absolutely wild with chinese girls and eastern europeans. Mainland chinese girls that aren't low smv (come from the countryside) will be very sexual as long as you aren't explicit about it. Just invite her to your home to watch a "movie" and it's a done deal. Just don't start any erotic talk or they will be weirded out due to cultural shock. The ones that talk dirty are just cheap sluts that wanna honeytrap to marry them, bang those as well but break it of quickly or things will get crazy. But in my opinion the top tier women for short term dating and having fun are ukrainians.
Nightshade37 5y ago
With a Chinese woman right now, very highly sexual but she has been in the states for 10 years. Always looking for ways to please me and she genuinely enjoys sexy talk, likes for me to be dominate and fuck her hard. Nice tits and tall (which is rare for many Chinese women). Have messed around with a couple of Filipinas, both highly sexual.
That said, you are 100% right about the materialism part. Biggest drawback with asians in general is they are the most materialistic out of the bunch.
White woman- pros:...not too much comes to mind. Can be fun and good at sex occasionally. Domesticated white women are top tier though. (extremely rare) Cons: age like shit, can become Karens, spoiled, boring
Hispanic-pros: very passionate in bed, age great, can be a genuinely fun person to do everything with, not as materialistic, will be straight up with you Cons: will cut your dick off if angry, everything is to the extreme with emotions, very opinionated about things they know nothing about
Black women-pros: age the best (black don't crack), like to be sexual and for you to act sexual the most, tons of fun doing random stuff, wants you to take the lead Cons: high maintenance emotionally, susceptible to getting fat more than others as they age
Noitrasama 5y ago
Have a sister, she is 50. Had my first child when she was 33. Child is now 14.
My sister showing her age at around 49. Everyone who saw thought she was 28-30!
And she has 3 kids now. Now imagine this, u guys say western women age like milk. We, here say, women age like milk too cos that's all we see around us. which means western women decay like radioactive material.
Black dont even work out. At least not in Africa.
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Read your post I was like
Yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep... ummm yep, yep yep yep yes.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Question for white men? Why would you want a woman who's not white? Your offspring usually don't even look like you, no?
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CasaDeFranco 5y ago
I mean, you have between 20-40 to find her, sure it's impossible but depends where you look. In some places, you can find communities of generally higher quality women like Greenwich for example. I feel like a lot of Red pill men spend time with plate material women and then assume all women are generally shit tier.
reddick1 5y ago
The city where I am from in North America is known for being the biggest feminist sjw shithole. Or I could go after immigrants who make up 50% of the population and aren't yet indoctrinated, and are actually attractive.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Yeah, but Portland or San Francisco is known for that. I'd rather leave then have a kid with an immigrant whose children won't even look like me or identify with my ancestors. Look at Jeb Bushes kids, or Obama, half white but you wouldn't really know it.
NomoreMrNiceGui 5y ago
TORONTO TORONTO ahahahahahahhahahahhah
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gofortheko 5y ago
Depends by region. I married a Vietnamese girl and they are awesome. They have no issues with working, very down to earth. Vietnamese are a really practical people.
But again results may vary by region. I dated a Japanese girl for a while when I was really young, almost got married. Realized she was dumb, selfish and only cared about money.
42gauge 5y ago
Curious, how well do you speak Vietnamese? At home, do you speak Vietnamese or English?
gofortheko 5y ago
I speak very little Vietnamese, because im kind of a piece of shit and was too lazy to learn. Truthfully I just want to avoid talking with certain people in the family which is the reason I didnt learn it, but also because im lazy.
42gauge 5y ago
How's her English? Does the language barrier ever pose an issue between you two?
gofortheko 5y ago
Her English is very good, no language barrier. Her mom doesnt speak english though, and her dad speaks ok english.
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42gauge 5y ago
Curious, how well do you speak Vietnamese? Do you speak Vietnamese or English with her?
gofortheko 5y ago
Just make sure you give her parents a lot of respect, they did a good job raising her. Family is VERY important in Vietnamese culture.
SteveSan82 5y ago
But you give money to your wifes family. Vietnamese are obsessed with cash and the husband is expected to help the parents or else you can't marry her
gofortheko 5y ago
Lol she’s been working the last 8 years while I stay home with the kids.
SteveSan82 5y ago
But she does give them money. You got her the greencard.
gofortheko 5y ago
We live with her parents, and she was a citizen when I met her.
SteveSan82 5y ago
Haha seeeeee. American citizen so shes not Vietnamese. You live with her parents. Typical to live with inlaws.
gofortheko 5y ago
No she’s Vietnamese, they moved here when she was 18, I met her in college when she was around 22 by that time she was a citizen.
Living with in laws is a very asian cultural thing, we could live on our own but my wife too it onto herself to be able to take care of them when she’s older.
You don’t have to believe anything, that’s up to you.
SteveSan82 5y ago
You have to be here for 5 years before you can apply for citizenship . to get citizen takes about 1 year. How did she get citizen in 4 years instead of 6?
gofortheko 5y ago
I said around 22, maybe she was 23/24 cant really remember. Its been a long long time, im 44 almost 45 now.
i-reddit-ck 5y ago
I can confirm this. Most of the women I’ve fucked are Asian, from Asia although they came to the USA during their early teenage years. That being said, they see sex as a holy thing, but once they’ve entered your frame, and they want you, they’re like any other women; they want you to man tf up and fuck them good. As OP says, they do have cultural values and shit that presses their natural desires, but once you go pass that it gets wild.
I’ve also fucked this Chinese international student in university, her dad is a CEO of a Chinese bank, so she’s a Lil bit entitled, but nonetheless she was submissive and she actually was one of the first girls I’ve applied TRP to. And just to prove AWALT, she had a bf who’s a doctor while I was spinning this gorgeous plate. Don’t let these societal/cultural values these bitches display stop you from spinning these plates. AWALT every fucking time.
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Atuli 5y ago
You're missing the point, of course AWALT I just find foreign women more physically appealing and more interesting in general.
macheagle 5y ago
American based in Asia here. Can confirm AWALT. It would have been beyond naive for anyone to have assumed otherwise.
casemodz 5y ago
No I want a 45 year old petite curry or burrito brown milf
oldskoolflavor 5y ago
Getting a foreign girl is a simps dream to upgrade and compensate for their lack of masculinity since it's usually someone out of their league. This is especially the case if the girl wants a green card. Take this from a Latino who has lived in many countries including Germany.
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
Yup, basically. It's incel cope
amwfhunter 5y ago
No one said to marry them. I live in Europe and USA. I just find for me when im in europe the quality of girls are higher than America. Comparing apples to apples. I still wouldn't wife those hoes .
oldskoolflavor 5y ago
They’re hoes all over the world. They’re just not as exposed or unmasked as the ones here in the US. That’s it.
amwfhunter 5y ago
I dont disagree with you but u can def keep them longer. I kept a plate for like 4 years and she was around while I was married too. I fucked an American plate last week but she is one of those break in case of glass situations.
Just never intro them to western culture. It is never yours just your turn and I find my turns take longer with those than American chicks.
oldskoolflavor 5y ago
“Kept”. You didn’t keep shit. You wasted your time and years of your life. That’s it.
amwfhunter 5y ago
How so. She was just around. No one was exclusive. I was surprised she stayed so long tbh. Friends with benefits, just coz I'm fucking the chick doesn't mean she is not a person I also like hanging with. How is that a waste? There is no oneitis bro.
Dls95405 5y ago
Ridiculous diatribe barely concealing your racism and misandry.
fuckmingaseatpingas 5y ago
Facts, I dated a Bulgarian girl back in my home country years ago, she was a fkn nightmare lol I couldn’t get rid of her fast enough aye. All those guys wanting an eastern euro chick are in for a rude shock lmao
wtfdoiaskfor1 5y ago
It's just incel cope. They can't get pussy for shit in their countries, so instead of lifting, they want to go easy mode lol
fuckmingaseatpingas 5y ago
Hahaha that’s so sad aye, how emasculated
IntelligenceLtd 5y ago
beliving woman are differnt anywhere in the world is peak neckbeard incel bullshit
FuckJanitors 5y ago
Awalt don’t matter in this context G. Culture affects behaviour MASSIVELY. And the west is not a good example of natural order as you put it.
SteveSan82 5y ago
Ok so iraqi girls go on cam and masturbate instead of meeting men on in public.
hiktaka 5y ago
AWALT,BDLODC
All women are like that, but different level of different country (/culture).
It's just saying that all men want harem. It's true, it's mother biology, but of course the exact number of pussies on what defines a harem is different all-over. In US, I bet, plating up to 10 girls at the same time can quite be termed as 'harem'.
PFD_2 5y ago
Men will complain up and down this sub about women generalizing groups of men, but dudes will stereotype regions of women and not think twice lmaooo. Idc where you go on this earth, you can find herds of goofy bitches anywhere, America is just proud of it.
42gauge 5y ago
Why the downvotes? I really hope this sub hasn't become this sensitive.
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