I think u also missed this one:

Does anyone want to talk about maybe how they overcame situations like this? Did you finally find the one?

The problem of Oneitis is much more prevalent and insidious than you think. It always lurking there in the male mind. We are built like that.

Men value love. Women love value.

If you're not fucking her, you're her emotional support animal

I can relate to that.

There was this girl I fucked one night, she was nice I liked her. I was managing the game pretty good, I didnt care that much about her, was fucking some other girls. Then the lockdown situation arrived and we had to cancel our second date. Didn't know how to react from there. Never had this kind of quarantine situation before.

I looked for some advice on those mains relations subs, about how to manage a girl while in lockdown... You see it coming ?

Yep. Ended totally screwing up with the girl. I lost the frame. I realised too late I was orbiting around her. Of course when the lockdown ended in my country, she let me understand, in a woman way, that I wasnt gonna fuck her anymore :) And honestly I wasn't surprised. Meanwhile, the girls I simply almost ignored/forgot during this lockdown came back to me and I got to fuck them.

Next time I'll fucking listen to trp.

New guys reading this : listen to trp. Even when sometimes it doesnt sound right, it is.

So true. There's a pervasive misconception about the value of connection, I bought it too when I was young. It's literally linking your emotions to another's actions which is the exact opposite of stability. "Does this make sense to me?" Is the most important phrase I can think of. If I'd asked myself that sooner to would've been better off and never been the guy you're talking about.

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every girl I meet or hang out with always has some other dude that I find out about months later. Or maybe I'm the side dude.

So he can hang around some girl for months hoping she will touch his pp one day and only then discover that she has a boyfriend? And EVERY girl he met was like this? Either this dude is painfully slow and/or keeps falling for same terrible type of women. Or he is simply full of shit.

She has a boyfriend? How the hell is this not something you find out immediately when approaching her? Is this even relevant? She either wants you or she doesn't - with or without already having someone. Did those girls even SUSPECT that he had romantic intentions?

I applaud his patience, though - being able to hang around a girl for months and never ask her out, hoping she will just magically put out one day. Wish I could afford to waste so much of my own time. Sad thing is, he probably doesn't even realise that some of those girls could be single when he first met them. And maybe they WERE interested in him, but then discovered that he was too slow and indecisive and moved on. Girls (especially hot ones) are not going to stay single forever, you see. You can't just fuck around and wait for ages till your courage builds up.

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"I really want to build a deep connection and share feelings with someone and I thought she wanted the same."

This guy wants a mother. Seriously.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, I wouldn't be so quick to give Freudian analysis on him, but yeah, he definitely sounds like a needy type. Deep connection is not something you immediately demand from day one. You start going out, you fuck each other for a while, and then maybe eventually a deeper relationship grows between you two. Or doesn't.

I think this guy's only problem (not a small problem though) is the absence of self-worth. Probably best solution for him would be to lay off girls entirely for a while and learn to be single and feel like a complete work. Find his place and purpose in this world, you know.

I would go so far as to reference the Iron Rule of Tomasi that no woman can love him in the way he needs to be loved. Not even his mother. Must come from inside.

The guy doesn't need to tell his problems to his mother- nothing good will come from that. Nor will paying someone to listen to him accomplish much. He needs what is rarely mentioned here, male friends. From reading his post I can tell that he has no friends, or of he does, none of them are getting laid either. A real friend will listen to your situation and tell you the truth about women. You don't have to have a PhD in Red Pharmacology to tell your friend that the girl who lives hours away that you've never kissed is a bad investment and you're probably not going to fuck them. Her mentioning going to another guy's house at midnight was not a subtle way of telling him where he stands in her universe.

Find a way to give value to people who you aren't trying to fuck and you can make all kinds of deep connections. Then you won't feel the need to place all these different roles on some girl who can't decide which restaurant she wants to eat at tonight.

My best friends in life were the people I could go to and trust with my personal secrets and they would share theirs and we made bonds that stand up over years, even if I don't see them for a long time. I know they're not out there gossiping and shit or plotting to use it against me. How can you trust a woman you've known for a couple weeks or a month with your information like that? You really shouldn't.

Women don't experience life like we do. they are not going to be able to relate to your challenges as a man. They will not value what you tell them, they will minimize everything that you think would create sympathy and compassion. You're giving them ammunition to use against you for their own gain.

Some of the advice given was pretty close to what is said here.. fix all your shit so that you like and respect yourself before worrying about finding some woman to make your life better.

Spot on truth here. Nothing else to say really.

Disagree with almost everything in the lessons learned.

Girl you're "talking to" for months is using you for validation and getting Chad's thunder from someone else.

So what? I talk to girls for months while they get fucked by other guys, whole time im fucking other girls, when the plate spins back around I can still smash her, if not, what did I lose? The 2 minutes it takes to send 10 texts a month? The problem is not talking to girls, the problem is thinking that conversation will always lead to sex. It doesnt.

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Don't try to build a deep connection with your romantic partner. This is reserved for your mother or maybe a psychiatrist. If anything you can be more honest with a good male buddy if you need to but do not make a woman your mother or psychiatrist.

What? No/ I built a deep romantic relationship with a couple LTR's that have ended. Dont regret any of them. In fact, those are the relationships I took the most out of in terms of lessons, experiences, hobbies, etc. You can be romantic and deep with someone and still realize its just your turn. I do agree you have to be careful entering a romantic LTR, be well aware of your own mindstate, but I wouldnt avoid it entirely.. There is a LOT more to life than pussy my friend. And women offer a lot more than pussy as well. Also the whole psychiatrist thing is cringe as fuck. Thats literally for people who cant form deep enough connections in real life to talk their problems out with someone who actually gives a fuck so they pay some grandmother with a clipboard to sit in an armchair and ask about childhood trauma. yawn

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Don't ask advice on one of the main subs unless you want to get a ton of dishonest and worthless replies from betas and women. Please use AskTRP instead and get the brutal, honest truth.

Mostly true but honestly askTRP is pretty fucking bad too. It isnt beta but it definitely isnt accurate advise 99% of the time. Its trying waaaaaayyy to hard to be alpha in every scenario and most posters are still on the blue pill themselves, just trying to spit it out.

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Once again, lack of abundance. It's ALWAYS a lack of abundance mentality in these blue-pill examples.

\No.. as usual when the word "always" is used, this is wrong. Definitely seen 6'6 chads with hell of a lot of options fall crazy for some IG thot and end up heartbroken and crying. Blue Pill mentality stems from low self worth. And TYPICALLY high self-worth leads to abundance. But self-worth and abundance are not always directly correlated.

It's sad we cannot red pill him. He's really blue pilled biased and would think we're a bunch of incels, missoginists instead of trying to understand women nature, and stating woman nature isn't being a hater, well, in the current social order, it is, because women are angels. Sadly, another guy had to suffer, he probably will kill himself soon.

So what would you suggest be the approach of a guy who likes a girl and wants to have a relationship with her,you day telling her from the start would be a mistake so tell us the other way