I don't believe that I've ever written a thank you to the community regarding the help you guys have provided me over the years and I'm going to change that.
Like many here, when I first found TRP it was over a woman. I was trying to find answers to the question of "Why". Why did she leave? Why am I not good enough? Why did this happen? Why now? Why? Why? Why?
It was one of the hardest things that I had ever dealt with because it involved my new born son. I had just overcome my fear of becoming a father and starting a family (single mom/deadbeat dad) and now it was all crumbling around me like a deck of cards in a hurricane.
For those of you who have never gone through a divorce, I'll briefly touch on the experience. When I went through it, I had stocks, a savings account of 36K (would've had more but bad business venture with the wife), a good job and various assets. Afterwards, I was 17k in debt, I had moved in with family and my possessions were almost able to fit under my bed in a suitcase.
EVERYONE thinks it's YOUR fault and nobody can really understand or truly helps. I once was told that it was "...like getting raped in a police station" and it's the most accurate description to date that I've heard.
I was depressed and turned to drinking. I felt like I had lost my best friend, lover, spouse, and life all in one shot. What's worse is that it was all the from the same person.
If it wasn't for my son, I wouldn't be here today. Seeing him, gave me the resolve to push past it for no one's sake but him.
One day, I stumbled onto "The Rational Male" and that sparked my journey into the TRP forums. I started to read like a wild man and at first I thought that most of this shit was crazy. Some made sense. You work out and look better and women will find you more attractive, but other parts were really hard to swallow "AF/BB, AWALT, dread etc." despite the fact that some of these concepts I have lived it was a different world and I struggled (sometimes I still do) with it.
I did what everyone should do. I quit drinking so heavily and started to lift. I bought some clothes and started to come up with an action plan to get myself out of debt and I started to cold approach. None of this shit was easy but it was right.
Guys, I'm not a bad looking guy, but when you start to actually internalize self improvement...it's night and day. I was getting IOIs, looks and compliments from everybody. I even noticed my ex checking me out a few times and I kid you not, I was getting the vibe that she was getting buyer's remorse as she would 'play nice' when I came by to see my son. This both turned me on and repulsed me.
If it wasn't for you guys, again, I would've entertained the notion of going back to her 'make it work'.
Not for her sake but for the sake of my son. I grew up in a family with no dad and with a step father and having someone there is better, but then I remembered what life was like and decided that the best thing I can do is be a strong example for my son and continue on this path I'm set to instead of being a shell of a man that's reduced to nothing more than an ATM existing while she would end up leaving or cheating.
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I said fuck it. If she wants to be over and walked away then I'm going to start dating and banging other women. This is where I struggled with the TRP reality. Seeing how women scorn past lovers, husbands, or even current boyfriends...seeing how women hamster reasons for sex, gas light arguments, light switch relationships...it's a surreal experience.
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Two instances that stand out .
One where I had just got a BJ from this woman and her ex husband called. He was negotiating trying to make it work for the kid they had and she was cold as ice. She said she'd think about it. Called him a pussy when she hung up and then proceeded to laugh at him.
The other time was when I had gone over to this woman's house. She bragged about how she's the best at sucking cock. Her kid came downstairs while we were watching TV and fooling around and ruined the mood. She then proceeded to get drunk and want me to ass fuck her. I didn't feel like it anymore and just left. Months later she added me on FB and I found out that she was celebrating her 10 year anniversary.
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If playing by the rules gets me a divorce, or one of those bitches then fuck that...
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Since I felt that I had nothing to lose, I'm going to do the exact opposite of BP romantic movies and comedies. Just ignore every piece of advice I was ever given about romance. If I did everything right and they still dumped me or cheated on me, what's the worst that can happen if I decide to be selfish and self serving about my needs.
I found that the worst I treated a woman the more she wanted me. It didn't matter if she was a CEO or a barista. It didn't matter if she was a 7 or a 9. When I didn't care and treated a woman like she was just a glorified fleshlight, she would blow up my phone with pictures and raunchy messages of things she would do with me.
The MOMENT that I opened up, showed any kindness, was understanding, without fail, they would start to test other aspects of my frame and the relationship would start to falter.
To this day, I struggle with being compassionate and am called "hardhearted" and I'm not sure if I should even bother. Sure my relationships last a few months tops but aside from sex, I feel that there's nothing a woman brings to the table that I can't get a better version of somewhere else.
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So, we come to the now. I have read numerous books and continue to do so. I'm looking forward to being debt free for the first time in my life, I'm pushing ever closer to my peak physical shape, I'm improving myself, my mind, my career and soon will be starting up a side business. I look good and feel good.
To those of you who have helped me on this journey, I wish to personally thank you. Those of you who are brothers, fathers, uncles to our peers, you're going amazing and I truly am grateful to you all.
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Lot of people fall for the narrative of TRP being anti women and full of hate, but here's a story of how you guys saved me and made me for the better. I'm not an asshole to women but I also don't take shit from ANYONE and strive to be a strong masculine role model for my son and I do not put women on a pedestal.
And personally...I think that's an OK way to live my life.
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Thanks again.

mgtowthroww 5y ago
My ex walked into a police station and filed false rape allegations after I caught her cheating on me with a co-worker for the SECOND time. I forgave her the first time, which was my first mistake.
She's now telling all her friends I've been abusive in the relationship.
She's living in my home and hasn't allowed me to see my kids in 5 months. I've paid $100k to try and get to see my kids while defending myself against criminal allegations.
She knew I would have left her so she decided to pack the first punch. I had warned her if she cheated on me I'd leave immediately so she decided to go to police.
I'm struggling financially and hoping one day I can get out of this mess.
DeJokerHD 5y ago
Isnt there an option 2 go for a truth ditactor to free you from this charges?
mgtowthroww 5y ago
No other option unfortunately.
Always make sure you record your interaction when you're sleeping with women for the first time.
319Skew 5y ago
Hang in there. It gets better but it's going to suck for a bit.
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BrazilianSwiftie 5y ago
What does mean AF/BB and dread?
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
This is an excellent example of your subconscious showing how you truly value yourself.
In your stream of consciousness post, your worst case scenario is a 7. It’s obvious you know you’re the prize.
sojjou 5y ago
Bravo. What are some books you can recommend to a fellow?
319Skew 5y ago
I posted this on AskTRP forum a few days ago:
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celad_pls 5y ago
hell ya man. I thought about making a thank you post but i am a shit writer and don’t care enough lmao.
Im so grateful for this sub tho. It’s literally insane how it’s quarantined. It has changed my life for the best and many other lives as well. Im doing good in life, getting there body I want, getting money, and getting some hoes.
CommyO 5y ago
Happy for you brother!
I've been lurking here since I was a teenager and this sub has gotten me through a lot of shit and moments of weakness where I thought I could emotionally give into women.
Our society is built to put the pussy on the pedestal and it's a shame many young men won't have TRP to guide them through it.
rumble042 5y ago
What was the reason for the divorce?
I mean, what happened over the years until the divorce?
319Skew 5y ago
From a BP perspective everything was fine. We worked through some of our differences, sex was there, we were stable and seemed like the perfect couple. I covered expenses for her to finish school, helped her out with her business idea, was moving up in my career and clearing up debt.
From a Red pill perspective, things were sliding with her forcing her frame and me giving ground. I got fat, I was "too nice", and only passive dread and sexual dominance (I'm attractive enough to get hit on which gave her dread and I'm good enough in bed to keep a sexual attraction). I listened to what she said instead of did that kind of thing.
I bought the lie that "happy wife is happy life" and that you're supposed to comprise for the relationship to work.
rumble042 5y ago
Honestly that doesn't sound that significant such that it would lead to a divorce..
You're being BP and "makes sure wife is happy" and then she says "I want divorce !!" ?
You had some passive dread + good at sex - that's better than many BP guys.
319Skew 5y ago
A woman is grounded by how she feels. She can love you more than life itself one day and then the next day hate you to the core with all the previous love turning into fuel for her contempt.
For my (then) wife,she had confided in me that she loved my stoicism, carefree (IDGAF), and was very physically attracted to me. She also felt that I was a good man.
When she wanted a divorce, it was due to me being irresponsible and lazy. This came about since I didn't get a job right away after a lay off (took me a month) and her argument was that if I was a better man, I would've been set despite a layoff. Things like a recession or the fact that it happened to everyone in my company (at the time) weren't a factor. She had seen weakness and honed in on it.
From then my carefree attitude became juvenile, my stoics perspective became indifferent, and being a good man became a write off since all the things that I did before didn't count and despite working two jobs at 56 hrs a week, doing the house work, and helping with our newborn, I should've been more understanding about her feelings and helped out 'more'. I never got a what exactly 'more' was. Just I needed to be 'better'.
When a woman wants something she'll find reasons for it. If she wants to sleep with you, she'll make up any excuse under the sun to get you but the inverse works the same way. You can, I kid you not, do dishes in a wrong way and it'd set her off into a fight.
I had a feeling for months prior that I was losing the fight for my marriage. I knew she was going through some chemical imbalances due to having a kid and was tolerant but my tolerance turned into weakness as I gave her more authority to make decisions that undermined me and her respect for me. She also started to withhold sex and that's a death call for any relationship. While at first it was due to very valid reasons (her body was devastated from birth), the validity of her claim started to waiver when she started to get better.
I remember having a hard discussion in my head about trying to 'save my marriage' and wanting to do what's right for my son and for the first time in a long while I started to look after my own interests as I knew that I had to be there for my boy. I withdrew my attention and focused on work and I noticed that she didn't react or respond any differently. I had become nothing more than an ATM so I pulled her aside and told her that she had two options.
She could continue to behave as she has and I would need some time apart to consider if I should be with her, or she can realize that there's something wrong and work with me through counselling. I made my case. Her rebuttal was that she didn't love me, she was 'going through the motions' and that I was good for nothing with all problems on our relations stemming from me. I needed the help. So with no anger. No negotiation. No tears. No discussion. I packed my things and moved in with family.
You wouldn't believe the hatred that spurred out of her.
I thought maybe she would see how far she pushed me and renege, but instead she hurried and pushed me out of her life. She called the government and declared us separated, she contacted the land lord and got us out of the lease, she set up shop at her family...and each time I'd go through the motions.
Years later, I found out that she blamed me for breaking her heart and that I left her and my child and that she told everyone about how I'm a good for nothing person, that I cheated/chased women (HA!) and that she doesn't love me or care for me anymore. I always respond with this fact; my biggest fear was having a family because I didn't want to create a broken home, why after 11 years, would I decide to leave a woman I loved (everyone who knew us knew that), out of the blue?
Sorry if this is kind of a long response.
Korrangar 5y ago
To sum it up, the moment you've shown weakness it was over, even after years of commitment. Damn.
rumble042 5y ago
Wow, man.. Sounds rough.
That's so weird.. if women are that crazy.. what's the point of everything.
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That sounds like she was a narcissist person (?)
They are known to be a rollercoaster of emotions.
I would never consider anyone as "irresponsible and lazy" for not getting a proper job within a month. That's crazy thinking.
Noitrasama 5y ago
Shes not a narcissist. All of them are like that
DeJokerHD 5y ago
I think you mean solipsism(instead of narcissist)
VigilantRedRooster 5y ago
Most "thank you" posts are removed as empty time wasters, it's why there's a ThankTRP sub. This one is actually a good read about a Red Pill journey.
DarkEmi 5y ago
Why ? Is scrolling hard ? If its bothering people there is a "downvote button"
californiawaves23 5y ago
Well said, you are not alone
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Jesus, what a great reminder to never get married.
These cheating bitches have no shame.
319Skew 5y ago
Not that you'd need more information but some guys who think they have found a unicorn...just some facts.
I wasn't completely naive going into marriage. From where I stood, she was a conservative Christian that didn't go clubbing or do anything since she had a strict father and mother. Her N count was zero and while she wasn't turn your head hot, she was extremely beautiful and one of those girls that if she put a little effort would be crazy hot (confirmed years later when I got her a bombshell dress and she started to use make up). She had family values and was looking forward to having a family and kids.
She didn't have sex right away and made me chase her for a month or so with her having insanely high interest in me the entire time. She didn't agree with feminism and was submissive in the bed and outside the bed.
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That all changed over time as I was more BP then and lost frame little by little over the years. Didn't help when a kid was born and you're kicked to the curb since Postpartum only happens to women and you're supposed to 'man up'.
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When you're going through a divorce, you take half of your assets that you've worked on over your life. You can't hide that shit since it's based on your declared earnings and all tax records and income is disclosed.
You liquidate that or divide the assets among yourselves with a lawyer making sure everything is fair (50%) and you fight for specific items. It becomes a lot more complex if you have property like a home, dogs, or kids.
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Once that's done then you're left with half of your shit and legal fees. You need to pay someone for the help that you got for getting half of your shit instead of none of your shit. Unlike women who have a plethora of support, you're kinda stuck on that one.
So you pay from the half pool you have, but the real fun begins with the court system.
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See... you're the bastard that left her. It doesn't matter why. You're guilty of breaking her heart and everything that you did together that was positive was ignored (support her through school, work, career, etc) and everything that was even remotely bad is amplified.
That time you argued with her...well that's now verbal abuse.
That time she was asleep and you started to play with her until she was wet and was having crazy monkey sex ... that was coercion.
That time where you had a few drinks and stayed at your friends instead of drive drunk or take a cab...that's you being an alcoholic.
You have to defend your character against: assault, rape, coercion etc. And since you're a guy, no one is going to believe that when you two were having a fight and she threw shit at you, that it was HER fault but that she was acting in self defense.
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So you're stuck paying for it. Legal can vary but I got 'lucky' and found a lawyer that was around 2k deposit and $250/hr. You get charged for everything. She doesn't like the fact that you can't drive across the city to make a 5 PM pick up time due to traffic, better find a way to demonstrate that before a judge. With bi-weekly bills anywhere from $600-$3200..it adds up fast.
She disputes the ruling from the judge, better get in touch with your lawyer for another court visit at your dime. Each time you're kind of committed since you can't NOT pay for legal.
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So you dig into savings, borrow, and it all hurts your credit. When the dust settles, you get to rebuild. That's not including any emotional trauma or reputation, I'm just keeping it to the dollars and cents.
Luck-67 5y ago
You describe it well. The legal fees are worth paying for to untangle yourself if you stay the course . On the topic of rebuilding: now is the time to be putting every spare penny into your IRAs, 401s, or favorite stocks. Bargain prices right now that will explode up once the economy goes Bull again. Been here and done this through a couple of recessions and one divorce. You will accumulate wealth and recover quickly. 20 years from now you’ll look back and be amazed over both your education and recovery.
alikebabay 5y ago
Now I feel ass raped, reading about all these moneys going to waste.
jojojijo333 5y ago
You know marriage is bad when men are prepared to get fucked and leave everything behind just to get away from it
KingCrow27 5y ago
Yeah, this modern era really sucks for men to get married. I keep hearing all these stories of happy marriages for a few years and then the wife just changes and everything goes to hell. I'm convinced to forego legal marriage and only commit to being married in "spirit". Legal marriage is purely a financial transaction with no upsides and gives women extreme leverage in a relationship.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Dude, for all that, if I ever got married (which i would never) and she wanted to divorce me, I would say "okay..."
...Then high tail it to south america and change my identity.
Truthfulldude1 5y ago
I snorted when I got to this part lmaoo
Obediah_Stane 5y ago
Anytime you start thinking to yourself "maybe, just maybe marriage will work" or "maybe, maybe I'll open up and be vulnerable", slap yourself and wake up, then go lift.
Stories like yours are consistent reminders how poor of a deal marriage is for men. Please don't ever talk to you ex again even if she comes onto you.
gotmilo11 5y ago
The worst you treated a women the more she wanted me... Like what would you say to a women for example
319Skew 5y ago
Hanging up on them, ignore calls, demand they pick me up something, hit on friends, call them names, made one walk home a mile or two, stood them up, ignore them, ditch them for other more attractive people, ghost, make passes at hot sister, make them cover drinks, etc.
In the bedroom, treat them like a cheap whore. BJ on command, make them gag, spank them, choke, ass to mouth, wear my cum in public, insult them.
That kind of thing.
Edit : Before anyone jumps on my throat, I start each relationship with the warning that I can be an asshole and each time, I get laid. They get wet and love it and it's when I stop being an asshole that they decide to branch swing or lose interest. My last plate was such a degenerate slut and I was honest to God tired from the near constant sex and depravity. The MOMENT I started to be nice to her she swung to another guy.
JzKy24 5y ago
Man, I could never do that to a woman lol. How do you do this?
319Skew 5y ago
Go to a porn site. For the next 30 minutes look up the most depraved and sexually aggressive videos you can find.
Now go to the mall and observe all the women around you for the next hour.
That old lady that's looking for her coupons for a discount on her purchase, that cute and nerdy barista that's handing out coffee, that mother of three that's displaying a huge cross on her neck, those Muslim women gossiping in the corner, that college chick with her skinny jeans bf in line, that middle aged Asian woman on her phone, the blue hair feminist that's handing out pamphlets on the rain forest... All of them are people. All of them are naturally sexual people. Chances are that in their lives they have done one or more of those things. Hell, most may have even enjoyed it.
Guys put women on a pedestal. There's rarely a reason to. They are people. You SHOULD treat people with decency but you don't HAVE to.
Once I got through divorce, the scales came out of my eyes and I saw females as nothing sacred or virtuous. I decided to put my needs first and be assertive, selfish, and insensitive.
I would test what I can get away with. It turns out that if she likes you... It's a lot.
She's used to getting a sea of simps that say her farts are cute and smell like fresh baked bread. The moment someone tells her to shut her stupid mouth up, get on her knees and suck or get the fuck out, that puts her in a submissive state, that hits her in a prime level, and it makes her feel like a woman who has a man worth keeping.
Now, I'm going to put a disclaimer here because some of the people who read this are autistic or socially inept.
I don't advocate forcing yourself onto a woman, beating a woman or being dishonest. I do advocate testing and pushing buttons, holding frame and being able to walk away.
Some plates will shatter and I'll be the first to admit that I suck at comfort tests but the world is full of plates.
jihocech 5y ago
And: you maust be attractive and they must be attracted.
jihocech 5y ago
And: you maust be attractive and they must be attracted.
JzKy24 5y ago
Now this makes sense. Thank you.
gotmilo11 5y ago
Wow. I can never think of myself doing such a thing to a girl. But now I see the difference between a boy to a men. All ive just read is 5 years in jail.. but you're still here talking to me. What should I do to improve my mentality
DrunkOldBear 5y ago
But WTF I know.
comcain 5y ago
Congratulations, OP!
Cheers
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jojojijo333 5y ago
Congratulations, welcome to the next level.
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