Wrote this in another comment.
TOO many guys in asktheredpill focus TOOO hard on women who pose no value/use to their lives. The Red Pill IS about building yourself as a man. So focus on what does and not what doesn’t. Sure Becky may be sexually useful but only let it be when it doesn’t affect your morale.
Women are not godly creatures, they’re normal people just like you and I. Attracting a woman isn’t really different from a man. Envy and jealousy is what creates attraction. To attract people you just need to plant these fears in their minds:
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Fear of Abandonment: Codependency, always wanting to please others (you). In this case you’re the abandoner.
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Fear of Missing Out: Refers to the feeling or perception that others are having more fun, living better lives, or experiencing better things than you are. It involves a deep sense of envy and affects self-esteem. In this case, you are living the better life in exclusivity.
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Fear of Jealousy: While jealousy can be described as a fear that another person may take something that is theirs or something they consider to be theirs. In this case you are the one they’re jealous of.
- Fear of Rejection: Self explanatory. In this case you’re the rejecter.
Note: Envy is when you want what someone else has, but jealousy is when you're worried someone's trying to take what you have. In this case you’re the one they envy.
Lesson: In nicer words, be the man Timmys want to be and the man Beckys want to be with.
Build upon your self esteem, your competences (earnings, achievements) and abilities (life skills, job skills) and only address yourself to those who can assist you and can bring substance to the environment you want to create for yourself. Self-esteem is the foundation of all confidences. A low foundation will hinder the examples listed in the top of this paragraph. Unfortunately a lot of guys have low self esteem therefore hindering their progress in life and because of that they feel like they can come to these kinds of subs to find secret recipes to ultimate attraction and make believe people into buying their bullsh!t facade.
Soooo work on developing confidence in your:
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Intuition (observant, questioning, adaptive, empathetic): The ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning.
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Integrity: The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.
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Initiative: The ability to assess and initiate things independently. Be a handy man not a lazy man. Useful > Useless.
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Resources: Be resourceful. have the ability to find quick and clever ways to overcome difficulties.
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Self-Image: is the mental picture, generally the kind that is quite resistant to change, that depicts not only details that are potentially available to objective investigation by others (height, weight etc…), but also items that have been learned by persons about themselves, either from personal experiences or by internalizing the judgments of others.
- Rationality: Your brain is an instrument designed to solve problems. Unsolved problems feed insecurities because they’re replaced with defense mechanisms and unhealthy coping methods. Solved problems feed confidence and morals thus making you more competent. Stop asking yourself WHY (she cheated; lied, broke up etc..). Start asking yourself HOW (can I make myself better or earn respect).
Sum: Humans are endowed with free will. You have used your free will to lead yourself where you’re situated today. These were all YOUR choices. “ A man must suffer to remake himself for he is both the sculptor and the marble “. Use your brain as an instrument of success, not to carve your own downfall. This is the period of your life where you remake yourself and not demake. Look yourself in the mirror and meet your maker. Upgrade don’t degrade. Invest don’t rest. Progress don’t regress. Work severely on your self-awareness and your environment in conjunction to you plus your role as a man in your life. Build a list of 10 self-improvement commandments that you follow religiously.
Aaaand don’t be one of those guys who talked to more girls than they’ve talked employers/professionals in his life.
These are just a few to name feel free to comment and add

PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL 5y ago
This is proper life advice. Thanks, i was freling anxious but now ive got my head thinking right.
heroisdoreddit 5y ago
You are trying to tie someone to you exclusively on the basis of different kinds of fear. You may succeed, but women will perceive that they are bound to you out of weakness, and hate themselves for it. Positive emotions trump negative ones, so if you can generate admiration and love as well as play to their vulnerabilities, the resulting relationship will be that much stronger.
Mikejonz111 5y ago
3 stages of love are:
Lust: strong desire to form sexual connection,
Attraction: Nervousness, Anxiety (butterflies) and the fears listed above
Everyone knows in a relationship less is more
The 3 stages of confidence i listed above builds respect and increases loyalty
So it’s not exclusively based on fears there’s many factors that play into attraction, love and respect
chadtrx 5y ago
I agree with this post. Some people learn the hard way. CHASING trim can be a phase whilst attempting to swallow the red pill. I sure went through it. I noticed how sex is just a dopamine & serotonin high, the same one I can get after hitting a successful PR in the gym or on the trails. We don’t need chicks to get those same feel-good hormones. Poon should not be your end goal. That would be putting women on a pedestal, making them the prize. You are the prize. Interestingly enough I’d say the same thing to women they too should be chasing goals of their own. I’d much rather be in a relationship with women that have a career & a bright future than one that is partying EVERY weekend. Otherwise, they probably aren’t the type of chick you should be sticking it in. Be the best & breed with the best. Remember you will always be digesting the red pill. One can never truly be “Red Pill” but one sure as hell can attempt. It’s a never ending cycle of self realization & improvement.
custoscustodis 5y ago
Well said. A lot of guys wasted their youth chasing trim (me included) and barely have anything to show for it in middle age and beyond. Meanwhile the same women from our past always have a lifeline to get resources.
alphaonthecomeup 5y ago
Legit post.
Self esteem has always been a hard one for me.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
This is a little weird.
You're saying guys shouldn't come to find secret recipes to attraction.
Then you give a recipe.
How about just don't look ugly and do whatever the fuck you want to do.
I get the whole list creation, especially when you're young. Get a little older and you soon learn all this 'become like this dot point, and this dot point' is overkill.
Seriously, just pursue something you're passionate about, don't look ugly and be cool with talking to people and women.
Forget the focus on 'attraction is jealousy and envy'. That is a horrible way to approach things and will only attract fucked up, low self esteem people into your life.
vwowv 5y ago
It's good to know the dynamics, but you are right in the big picture. So many good comments get only 1 upvote.
Mikejonz111 5y ago
There are 3 pillars to confidence
Self-esteem (self belief, self trust, instincts, intuition etc...)
Abilities (social skills, talents, job skills, leadership skills, persuasion skills, life skills etc...)
Self esteem is the foundation of the structure. Without that you’d be a man with a weak structure (fragile ego). Men with fragile egos (low self esteem) go online to to find secret recipes to compensate and camouflage their lack of confidence. I was specifying men with lack of the above examples.
For some people, not looking ugly wouldn’t really be an option. Then again the standard of physical attractiveness is defined by general peoples judgment. You don’t have to be good looking to be confident.
Sure there’s nothing wrong with doing whatever you want to do. Enjoy your life while you have it, it’s a gift people take for granted. But also focus personal development it’s your best safety net.
Your perception says it’s overkill because you’re older therefore make it simple: pursue you, don’t be ugly and be cool with talking to people
All these things you listed involve confidence which is an issue many men struggle with. Theoretically it’s easy to understand but to put it into practice it’s hard especially when you don’t realize that you have low self esteem. But its never too late to develop in these areas.
Envy and jealousy is what creates attraction this is how people’s psyche work. It’s just a break down way of saying be the man Timmys want to be and the man Beckys want to be with. It’s how you create dependency. Envy is when you want what someone else has and jealousy is when someone else might take what’s yours or what you consider to be yours. I even listed fears under my point that trigger attraction. You plant (in their minds) a sense of value, a sense of who you are and what they could miss out on. It’s a power dynamic. It’s a manipulation tool, a skill. No one is immune to manipulation whether they have a healthy self esteem or not. Choose your targets wisely.
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throaway4000s 5y ago
"to progress again man must remake himself"
mugeji 5y ago
Also respect those who walk their own path and did not succeed. They still believe in something themselves, just not lucky enough.
pussykiller009 5y ago
No one is self made. The authors of the books you have read, the people that inspired you, the parents that put you in school and fed you... all these elements represents steps on the ladder that you climbed to get to the level of success you are in.
You have been shaped by others since the they you were born.
Xercister 5y ago
I agree with this and will add that I respect men who don't fold and become bitches. Are you willing to stand up for what you believe? I respect that.
SvenAtLarge 5y ago
This has come up several times in my life. Girls and men who think like women attack me for my beliefs but I have a reputation for standing firm and not caving to their frame or their terms of how they define reality.
Women notice. You can argue with a woman till she's ready to spit on you but you can see that lusty glimmer in her eye. That's hot stuff when you experience it. Almost got into big trouble a few times with that type of situation.
Edit: some women get turned on watching you smash shit tests with zero fucks given and an unshakeable frame that is firm, but not emotional. Same way women get that lip bite watching you fix a truck, play an instrument well, or pump iron. They get turned on watching men do things with great skill or strength and, like watching Trump, a man who toys with people that others cower in front of is fun as hell to watch.
"Dont argue with her, she's mean. I'm dead serious."
Oh its gonna be a fun night.
StereoFood 5y ago
Man it’s difficult when u live with a guy who is a big tantrum covert narcissist baby. Perfect example, this mf broke my X and said because I put it in a spot that was vulnerable I should pay half to replace it. I made him pay 75% but all day he was going on abkut how fucked up I am for making him do that even tho he doesn’t have to move an inch for his money. Makes no sense. So I caved and said well if u think that’s fair then let’s make it that way. Smh
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_Lemongrab 5y ago
Would you react the same way today?
Former_Loser 5y ago
Stop making excuses. Kick your roommate out, or go out and find a new place. I empathize with your frustrations as I have also had awful roommates. So, do everything you can to get them out of your life.
vwowv 5y ago
Or make the roomate think he kicked StereoFood out. Goes so much easier.
hemorroid_rage 5y ago
Any advice on how to do this?
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__teju 5y ago
Guys, I have a doubt. What exactly is a red pill?
youareshandy 5y ago
You'll find out if you read the sidebar.
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wolverine847 5y ago
One my the questions closest to ma heart
vwowv 5y ago
I'd like to point out it is healthy to recognize many stunners, smokeshows as completely unwanted. Just because a woman is a smokeshow doesn't mean she should be on your radar. There is subdomain of smokeshows that have absolutely nothing to offer you. They are worthless to your life. They have no quality. Fucking them would be like fucking a time bomb that would then start ticking down from 24 hours, or 10 weeks. They may or may not be reliant on makeup and such to be a smokeshow. They only exist to promote themselves. You, and others are mere fodder. If you can look at 20 smokeshows and not pick out at least 5 that would fuck under your life even if they gave consent while being video taped in front of 300 people, then you suffer from oneitis.
I read that back and I'm sure many of you are thinking I'm a blue pill that got his ass handed to him, as it was written oddly specific. I'm not. I didn't. I completely owned the situation I was in and won the lottery. You will not, and I will not again. I was exiled from my circle of friends after being accused. I made one statement that it was untrue and left after being asked to leave and not return. I am so lucky I'm not on facebook or any social media, except on reddit with an anonymous name. I layed in my ashes thinking patiently in my command [bed]room. As I lie there I realized after a week all I have to do is say nothing. The hot woman half my age, who told others "I was a beautiful man". The woman who flirted with me hard core sharon stone style in front of her orbiter 4 times. The woman who looked 23 who looked me in the eye and announced to me she was 26 with glee, that she sang, begged that she had a degree in art, yada yada more. The woman that turned on me after I insulted her via subtext for being too walmart whory would end up dying on her own sword. The way she was torturing her orbiter was one turn off. I figured it out just from lying on my bed thinking it out, and letting time go by silent as I figured it out patiently. She would be emboldened by me being booted out. She would start being a bigger whore, and saying things about me people there who knew me for years would know was a lie. She was going to implode.
So 8 months later, even though I was told never to return, I returned to the start of the next league. She wasn't there so I stayed. Everyone totally accepted me, many looked at me in wonder, demonstrating half bows, some where shaking from beta respect. The organizer that kicked me out didn't say a word to me, or reprimand me for showing up. However I was confused, because I was expecting to either be welcomed to join, or rebuked. So I left after 20 min. By the time I got home I got an email from the organizer telling me to come back next week. I've been back in league ever since, with major respect. I never ask questions. I'm sure the rumor mill was all over the place and mostly miss information, yet my reputation destroyed all. Any projected rumor just made me more of a legend. I was told she only showed up about 3 more league nights before she disappeared forever, leaving to my imagination if she was booted out, or she left out of embarrassment and suspicion.
I have been with that league for 10 years. Long ago I picked myself off my heels which led me to redpill a few years after. redpill fueled a self improvement explosion. That league saw me go from rags and ashes to fucking awesome next level for 5 years in a row, turning heads. That is the only reason I survived. Strangely I started smoking for a year after that and went down a level for the first observable time ever. 4 months ago I started eating only salad and steak, and some fat, almost no carbs at all, not quite keto, and started riding my bicycle for 23 miles every day during this covid thing. I went from one step back to 2 steps forward. Lost pretty much my last 20 shitty pounds and now my legs are ripped. I'm going to shock my league again. I've already returned to the reopened local bar and have been getting those looks like I'm personal jesus from the staff who also just saw me go up and up.
My frame kinds sucks right now, but it wasn't when that nightmare gone north happened to me.
So with my frame I could surely survive such a situation again?? Fuck no. It was a perfect storm. I won the lottery.
I then realized there is no winning possibility with a subset of smokeshows.
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custoscustodis 5y ago
A great read to start the day. Thanks.
cheepdogg 5y ago
Needed this today. Thank you for posting
sowhattwenty20 5y ago
Great post. I will point out that a good goal for many of us should be to become our own “employers,” slave to nobody else, so in that case, I think that speaking to more women than oneself should be acceptable ;)
Mikejonz111 5y ago
Employers in the sense of anyone who serves a professional purpose in your life not necessarily a “boss”
mega_kook 5y ago
Saw your original comment and this is gold. I'm saving this and coming back to it when I need a reminder. Just got a new job after stopping because of COVID and I already have so much more confidence.
Whatever bar you set for yourself becomes the norm. I've never regretted aiming too high but I've definitely felt like shit when I realized I could be doing better than I currently am!
Raptor2312 5y ago
This is the content I followed for.
SoulRedemption 5y ago
Great post.
Can you elaborate a biy more on moral principles? How to set and apply these from what you have experienced. Social examples would be a bonus.
Mikejonz111 5y ago
Your moral principles are your commandments, your inner faith. It is your yin and your yang. It is how you decide what’s right or wrong, what’s good or bad. They’re the principles you learn thru life that take you to your destination (where you are today).
A few Examples:
Present you: the investor
Future you: the beneficiary
Stay true to who you are.
Earn respect by respecting yourself
Protect your reputation
Don’t practice until you get it right. Practice until you can’t get it wrong
Take lead. Focus on your mission
Some laws of power (if done right) can be really effective in your personal development
SoulRedemption 5y ago
Thank you for the break down and providing details. Was much needed for me.
Any recommended articles or books to help lay the foundation of principles and how to follow through?
HODL_monk 5y ago
Bullet point 'Resources' should probably be 'Prepared' - Having what you might need is much better than just having a lot of stuff or money. Protip - carry zip ties and bungie cords in your car, they cost almost nothing, and you can temporarily (or permanently, if you 'roll junk') fix a lot of cosmetic and real car problems with these things, if you think about the issue carefully.
Pimpjuice2 5y ago
“Don’t be the guy who’s talked to more girls than employers”
That’s stupid honestly. Not trying to call you out but you’re clearly in career crisis/applying for and projecting it into this post.
Applying to jobs is productive if you don’t have one, but once you have a good job no point in talking to employers.
Even further, working for someone else is building someone else’s dream. Start your own company. An employee is nothing more than a “cost” to a business owner and they’ll always pay you the bare minimum.
Talking girls on the other hand, while I agree can be a time suck and a waste of sexual energy that could be transmuted elsewhere , is more fun and it’s actually beneficial to have more than one at a time. So talk to as many girls as you’re attracted to and reassure your limbic system that you’re a successful reproducing human.
10 girls at a time = abundance mentality
2 jobs at a time = overtaxing and diminishing returns
3 jobs at a time = stupid and impossible, unless it’s 3 part time jobs at malls and restaurants and in which case I would say you pretty much have no job. Quit them all and find a career.
Mikejonz111 5y ago
I understand your point. I meant employers in the sense of anyone who serves a professional/business purpose in your life not necessarily a “boss”
mattwilk90 5y ago
"Envy and jealousy is what creates attraction."
who hurt you?
Pimpjuice2 5y ago
Don’t know why you’re downvoted. That’s an unhealthy way to look at it
StereoFood 5y ago
Idk man I find girls are into me the most when people invite me to parties or activities. When I mention it to the girl I’m talking to they freak out call me 20 times and ask what I’m doing. It’s insane how much they lose it.
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StereoFood 5y ago
For sure. That’s waaaay better. I’m. Just supporting OPs point
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mr_Tobbor 5y ago
You think memorizing values and writing them down, they magically become mens of next door!