i love these RP analysis of that sub! i fucking hate those people over there. reading these make me feel like im not an outcast.

also unreality is a new word for me so that's cool

Well done brother. Don’t hesitate about your decision

Redpill <3 i love you guys

Now that is the narcissism of women. Flush 20 years down the drain with one sentence and still try to play victim. Honestly I think he should leave her and just go travel. Find some nice widowed women to plow maybe even find a new hot wife that had a husband who died. At least she would treat him better and would show that old wife how much of a stud she really had. The best revenge is to show her that nobody really cares for her and she will die alone. Try to have the best relationship possible with the kids as well. Never too late

I've got to give him credit. She deceived him on the outset, but when he found out, he is ready to get out. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It seems like he is NOT a fool, despite what his family says.

And, as he said, she has no real power over him other than possible alimony. She has no way to gaslight him because he heard it from her own mouth. No possible misunderstandings for her to stand on and use to reel him in.

I'd be interested in seeing the update.

Seems like a sound guy to be fair, as soon.as he smelt bullshit hes ready to bring an end to it. Bullshit shouldn't be tolerated.

The family law system is stacked against men. Divorce can be a financial disaster. Also, every divorce I've seen, where the kids are adults, resulting in the kids taking the side of one parent over another. One parent gets cut off. So what to do? Here are a few suggestions:

1. Let the divorce talk die for now. Bide your time. Your time will come.
2. Improve your relationship with your kids if they are receptive. Spend more time with them. Help them. But set your limits. Remember, it takes effort on both sides to have a good relationship.
3. Start living your life separately and pursuing your goals. If you like to golf, golf more. If you like to do woodwork, join a club. Etc. Reduce your time with your wife. She will get jealous. Just tell her, 'You don't need to settle by spending time with me I have other things to do.'
4. Slowly stash away money. Create separate accounts. Do your taxes separately. Separate your finances. The most important lesson I learned from my divorce is that family and civil courts do not have any authority to find your banking information. I handled the finances when I was married. If I had not been the 'noble guy' and truthfully disclosed all our banking information, there would have been no way for my wife and her attorney to find every account. That would have saved me thousands of dollars.
5. Assuming you've done steps 1-4, start increasing your demands of your wife. Ask her to cook more, or clean more, or whatever. She knows you want a divorce and are spending more time without her. Either she will fall in line or make the divorce 'her idea.' Either way, you win.

What would I would do.. I'd leave. I wish I had this anger that I have when I read this, when I was blue pill being walked on in life. He caught her in the act and wants to leave. I'm furious that a women would say that dumb shit to her friends "because I didn't excite you"... Ive been faithful for 20 years and raised our kids to become young adults... Because I didn't make your little clit jump for excitement when you see me everyday.... Bruh women... (Most not all) are really something else.. wow. I'm so happy he wants out!

I just know I want out but her and our entire family has taken her side calling me a fool and idiot.

This is what gets to me the most these days. If anyone would dare even consider to try to make me change my mind or feel guily, be it friends, family, kids etc I would straight tell them to eat shit.

You find out you were suckered and lived a complete lie for half of your lifetime and these assholes try to convince you to contine living this lie, siding with the person that suckered and lied to you.

It’s better to leave and just pay for hookers than stay with someone who settled for you.

And good riddance!

That man wasn't not going to be 2nd best to someone she hadn't seen in 20 years, as far we know. I hope this man gets the best out of whatever comes next hoping the courts don't screw him too bad. Best of luck, I hope he never lets himself down like that again.

This is a solid red pill proof of concept. But he's been married to this woman for 20 years. He obviously can't just ditch her and go fuck some 22 year olds. He's devoted a huge portion of his life to this woman and he was 2nd best the entire time. They have kids, or at least a life together, that might not be worth destroying because of a phone call. Theres nothing to fix, just an unfortunate situation.

Of course he could hit the gym, better himself, spike up that SMV and give it another shot. But would that really make him happy? He just wants to erase the memory of that phone call and go back to the way things were. If this were a friend of mine, I'd just give him advice to raise the SMV, get some social proof, get some hot stuff flirting with him and make his wife realize what a moron she was to say something like that, in order to "undo" that damage.

It won't really fix it, because he's already committed and girls will always go crazy for a guy they know they can't get, but the solution isn't a divorce imo, it's for her to realize she really doesn't have room to be complaining because Tom didn't like her, he just liked fucking her.

I don't blame you for your decision, if I had heard those words my heart would rip in two as well. 20 years is a lot, but after that it makes a man think about what you really meant to her in that time span. Justa consolidayion prize? Cuz she couldn't get who she really wanted? It makes u resentful and toxic. I hope the best for you, and at least for me, I don't blame you for your decision.

If I were hi, I'd leave. She's desperate because she knows she'll be a lonely cat witch. That's why she felt like "settled", she doen't have any options. He, on the other hand, will have plenty if you want to. If not, I'm sure he'll be much better by himself than she would. She deceived him. Trust is absolutely fundamental in a relationship.

What do I do?

You know what to do: break free, my friend. Break free.

Bro nice job. Sorry you’re having to deal with this but respect to you for keeping your dignity and cutting your marriage quits. Good luck

That kind of sucks for his ego and all, but why do I care if she thinks she settled for him? Her lack of excitement? Who gives a shit.. the guy reproduced twice with a woman who apparently was out of his league, according to her... And she was only 25 at the time. Not quite young but not old enough to be desperate. Marriage is an economic relationship. The red pill is that love doesn't exist. What proof is there that this man and women were any less happy than any other married couple? He thought he was still in a 20 year honeymoon phase or something. And she shattered his frame with a few comments he overheard... What kind of man is standing around listening to his wife talk on the phone? He probably is pretty boring, I don't think Tom is doing that right now.

Account got banned by Reddit not RA mods because it was a fake post. Typical fan fiction

It's not what it looks like ..... Fucking hell.

You will always be compared if you have a lower SMV or are a beta.

You mean you will always be compared point-blank

My state has lifetime alimony after 20 years. If this couple was located in my state, she would have earned herself a lifelong pension from the husband she settled for.

I read this post, and I was so proud of the guy for dropping her like a sack of wet shit.

She underestimated him, and underestimated him severely.

Only when she realizes she's losing everything for betraying him, does she realize her soon-to-be ex's real value.

I'm in my early 40s and my kids are in their early to mid teens. I think there's way more to that post than meets the eye.

1. When someone asks for advice, 90% of the time they don't actually want advice. They want validation and permission to do what they already decided to do.
2. I don't know about that dude, but for me, I'm already thinking about what my life might be like once my kids are out of the house. I don't want to do anything drastic like spend 5 years in a Tibetan monastery and miss my kids growing up, but once they've graduated high school, there's some bucket list shit I want to do! And I am not sure my wife will be involved with that. I don't think she has the desire or physical stamina to do it, anyway.
3. Over the years, I've found myself trying to figure out what makes women important to us that I can't get from guy friends who think more like me. It's not just the sex. She does a great job keeping the household running and I appreciate the hell out of that. But when I try to add more to the list..... it gets hard.

With the above in mind, I think that guy already had one foot out the door. He had a dead bedroom, and his kids were out of the house. With no sex, and no further need for a woman to raise their kids, what does he need his wife for now?

At 45, he's in some of his prime years, and he probably felt like he was doing her a huge favor by "settling" for domesticated life with her! And she just goes and slaps him across the face and humiliates him. What does he need that shit for? There are adventures to be had, and he's ready to go.

It's a larp, the OP had a history of fabricating posts.

This is incel bait.

The user has been banned from Reddit (not just the sub) for posting two conflicting bullshit stories.

I tried to post a link but automod deleted it

I agree with the other guy who said the guy probably wants out for a number of reasons. After 20 years with someone your ego shouldn't be destroyed over some tea. He's using this to ditch her with moral superiority and crowdsourcing justification on reddit. If his wife overheard him talking about the desires he hides from her she'd be hurt too, and probably disgusted. I'm calling hypocrisy.

Hmm comments weren’t as fully blue pilled as I expected. A few were gaslighting him saying he’s a jackass who was trying to leave before anyway but those weren’t the most popular.

Not saying many had red logic, but they were reaching the same conclusion as red (ie leaving).

Hmm, maybe people are slowly waking up.

Ok, so they get divorced. How do you think that's going to work out for him financially? Probably poorly for the simple fact that a spouse basically functions as a roommate. You split all the major costs of living. Let's say he doesn't care about that... well he's about to start having way less sex. As a 45 year old male unless you're in the top 5 percentile of SMV you're not going to pull much, and based on the post let's be honest he's probably middle of the pack at best. I don't care how much he "lifts" or works on his appearance; he will never be in that top 5%.

So now he's much less wealthy and has much less sex. What a great outcome, right?! What does she get? Well she probably gets as much sex as she wants because we all know most men who are an 8 or even 9 out of 10 will fuck women as low as a 4 because they're not prudes like women are and also it's the asymmetrical hookup game that we all know currently. Women pull super easy.

Then he gets old... like 65+. Maybe he gets some kind of health issues. Who helps him out with stuff? Drives him to his doctor's appointments if he's feeling too sick from chemo or whatever. No one... or some sad ass uber ride.

But at least he has his pride, right guys?

You want to leave & go where? Because you think at your age you'll be able to find a woman that won't be settling with you all over again?

Your literally blowing up your family over something that you will experience with every woman you'll meet. Women always think of someone was at some point. Why get mad as if she had an affair or disrespected you?

When I read this, it could of been a classic MRP post, good on him for fucking leaving.

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At least she ain't riding Tom behind his back or maybe?

alpha widow claims another victim.

cant imagine being in that spot, but good for him for leaving, and he's got plenty of good years ahead. timing-wise, the kids are adults so lucky for him, its an easy move there.

the reality is that probably 75% of husbands are in a marriage like this, they just never realize it. a grim consequence of the CC.

Good at 45 you are still in the prime of your life. Enjoy it while still lasts. Dont drink her kool aid

what exactly do you have to do to "excite" them?

What's interesting is that she thinks of Tom everyday, even after 20 years. 20 fucking years! That's not normal behaviour.

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Leave bro get out of there