-Beginning:
This question recently came when one of my friends discovered The Red Pill. So, following the standard route this community often propagates, I guided him to the sidebar.
Over the course of a month, a lot of material was read, some observations of common situations made, also, personal goals were set up and now he is following them to increase his SMV. Although, he is already buff and has a personal style developed, when it comes to game, women and approaching, he still operates from a bluepilled mindset, postponing game practice as if he is not ready (common answer: I need to work on myself more). I understand that this is natural for a beginner who has barely started rewiring years of social programming, but in such thinking, I noticed that most men progress slowly in seduction, and that there needs to be a random breakthrough, with at least one woman, while they are aware of TRP, which prompts them to take more action. So how can this breakthrough be achieved for beginners without knowing the many complexities of game?
-Body:
Imagine a man full of theoretical knowledge on how to game women, but zero practical skill. His first few times gaming women will go bad, he will fumble, be very nervous no matter how well he knows theory and he will definitely forget to use most of the stuff he learned because of his anxiety. This man still, on a subconscious level, believes that game is bad and that those YouTube videos he saw of infield footage are cool, but he is not fully convinced that it works. We would say to this man that he is lacking experience in practicing game, obviously, but that will not affect his results until he reaches a breakthrough because his blue pilled beliefs are holding him back.
By doing research on primal psychology, I've learned that a breakthrough can be achieved with only knowing 4 concepts on a simple level: Frame, Congruence, Leading and Indicators of Interest (IOIs).
Those can be developed without having game at all, simply, by being brutally honest with others and a small quantity of theory on the fundamental IOIs.
For this to work more smoothly, a man would need to approach a yes girl. The opener doesn't matter as long as you say "Hi, I'm [insert name here], what's your name? ". What you are looking for in a yes girl, is that she steps closer to you when you approach her and holds strong eye contact. Anyways, look for those and lead the conversation by asking about whatever comes to your mind for a minute or two. After that, drop the real reason why you approached her: 'We should hook up' or 'I want to hook up with you' - do not ask this because asking for something sexual is not leading. Look her in the eyes and say what you truly mean. (If she is with a friend, whisper that statement into her ear)
-Ending:
If she's interested she will say something along the lines of: what? right now? To which you will answer yes and you will figure out the rest.
If, by failing to notice those IOIs you come upon a no girl, she will answer your statement in a simple "no, not interested" and that will be it.
If, however, she is a maybe girl, there are two responses. The first one, after saying no, she will provide excuses (no, I don't sleep with strangers that I just met) to which you can reply by pushing the idea of you hooking up more. The second response is usually dramatical as in 'I am a lady and you are rude! Bla bla bla!). These latter maybe women require you to have a really solid frame and they will test you hard. So, for beginners, I would recommend just bailing from the interaction.
This concludes my guide on how to achieve your first breakthrough in seduction, so that you could actually start practicing and fully believing in game which will help you to convert those maybe girls into yes girls.
If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to ask.

chazthundergut 7y ago
80/20 rule
80% of game is just taking your shot. Thats it. No tactics, no lines, NO THINKING. Just go for it. Looking back on my BluePill days, I cringe at all my missed opportunities. Even the chicks who friendzoned me would've most likely fucked me if I had just gone for the kiss, during one of the many occasions that one was literally laying in my bed
EmirSc 7y ago
Flashback to me when I was 14
DeborahBinLaden 7y ago
The Autist Method
“We should hook up” needs to change. There’s 0 mystery or intrigue. It’s a fundamental of game to never overtly state your interest in fucking: ASD/LMR.
You could say something that heavily implies that you want to fuck without actually saying it.
I understand your method is to game as little as possible and weed out the definite lays but why is everyone trying to get the best success rate or the easiest method? Failure and embracing failure is essential. Learning the ancient art of DGAF is waaay more useful than any of these Walmart methods
NorthOC 7y ago
Ask every niceguy how their covert methods gave them the IDGAF attitude. Developing that, comes from being overt.
Remember, this post is aimed at beginners who have spend their plugged in lives either white knighting or being the niceguy. So, to create a breakthrough, they need to be overt. That will create a IDGAF mindset. After that, yes, they can practice all your intrigue, mistery, push pull, etc.
DeborahBinLaden 7y ago
I agree. Being overt and brutally honest is what helped me, too, develop DGAF attitude. I would advise against explicitly confirming your sex interest to her. I think, however, that a genuine “we should have sex” would diffuse your chances.
I tell girls shit like “we should fuck right here” and it works a charm because it’s done in a way where it couldn’t be taken as sincere. I do think it would be a good exercise for beginners to develop DGAF but it won’t maximise potential results if the aim is getting laid
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Wiley-canvas 7y ago
Good post overall but to say that “frame, congruence, leading, and noticing IOIs” is not game is patently false. That’s 100% of “game”. The other bullshit is tactics spewed by people using their own small sample size as the blanket solution.
Those 4 categories are ambiguous and mean something different to everybody, and that’s what makes them difficult, and thus the core of “game”.
It’s like telling someone you don’t need to be good at football, but you need to be able to catch, block, hit, and understand the playbook.
blancstare 7y ago
To play the devil's advocate here, these concepts are just that. They are concepts. How you apply those concepts is game. I think the point OP is trying to make is that beginners should focus on developing an understanding of the concepts and then begin applying them to develop their own game.
To use your football analogy, you can tell someone they need to be great at football. But until they know how to catch, block, hit, and understand the playbook, they aren't really playing the game.
tucker- 7y ago
What the two of you are arguing about is difference between strategy and tactics.
Learn the tactics (frame, congruence, etc), apply them strategically (game).
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H0tTamal3 7y ago
The guys who have too much anxiety to just kick themselves in the ass and go out and approach are instead supposed to walk up and say "wanna fuck?" Seriously?
Omnidempotent 7y ago
Have you tried this yourself? How did it go?
NorthOC 7y ago
I did, and it worked. Especially good in night game, as women binge for men they could easily fuck.
haxewep24 7y ago
Do not agree with this. Although being more direct will be good for beginners, saying "You wont to hook up?" will only work if you SMV is insane.
NorthOC 7y ago
Never ask for sexual things - that's not leading. And no, you do not need high SMV (although that helps in providing you with an increase of yes girls).
I'm 5'7 and I've done this while wearing a plain yellow sweater, shorts + thermal leggings. At that time I had around 15% body fat and no visible muscles. So, overall, low SMV.
_do_not_read_this_ 7y ago
So in other words, here's an easy, four step, simple but unproven method to get laid that works.
But the rest of us with experience and know-how have to keep doing it the harder way?
Thanks, makes perfect sense.
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_do_not_read_this_ 7y ago
Down vote me all you want, this is exactly what the OP said: