Is it basically to just "enjoy the decline"? Or that one has to create their own happiness in life? Or that interactions with women slowly become jaded and cynical once you swallow the pill? All of them?

JamesSkepp 6y ago

What exactly is the message behind this article?

Women who crossed the wall subconsciously know they did, but still want to be treated as they haven't. Therefore the 35yo wants to be treated like 20yo, but not explicitly. She wants to be treated like the wall never happened, it's her delusion, a fantasy. Thus, saying to her "you're pretty" bursts her fantasy bubble b/c it really means, for her at least, that you're saying "you're - pretty for a 35yo".

Bare in mind that the wall is not 30 or 35, it's the age in which her looks start to visibly decline (and thus the attention and validation of her hotness form men), there are plenty of 35yo who look hotter than 20yo, simply b/c they won genetic lottery. IOW there are 35yo HB9 prettier than 20yo HB5, and being 15 years older changes little, looks wise.

The decline you're mentioning is not the cultural "enjoy the decline", the author is bored with her inability to be authentic, thus he resents the fact that he can't call her pretty (even if she is) b/c she doesn't treat this as compliment or fact, she treats this as a neg bc she subconsciously knows shes not actually the pretty 20yo anymore. He can't be authentic b/c she can't be authentic first. They both pretend, but b/c he's the one doing the work, he has to bear the burden of keeping the fantasy up, she's there passively "receiving his acting", so to speak.

The hot 20yo is being hit on left and right, her hypergamy is in overdrive. That's another thing the 35yo wants to see - in you. She wants to know you're fucking other girls, b/c she's was used to that kind of men in her 20s.

TL/DR: wall is inevitable biologically, but she pretends not to be post-wall b/c she doesn't want to accept the fact that shes being judged by men based on her looks primarily. Attempting to communicate with her post-wall real-her is pointless, b/c she doesn't acknowledge the fact that she's post-wall.

/u/LastRevision can correct me if I misread.

Nicolas0631 6y ago

This is better than the writting in the link.

TyroneTheDriver 6y ago

Damn great write up.

Thank you

WaspOnAWall 6y ago

Here's how I understand it : this guy said "you're pretty" to a girl and she nexted him. Then he proceeds to lament that you can't even make a genuine comment and everything has to be scripted.

From my perspective, this guy doesn't understand the underlying issue and is left miserable. I tried putting myself in his shoes for a moment, in front of a pretty woman, and it's obvious to me that I wouldn't blurt out "you're pretty". Not because of following a script, but because it goes contrary to my social instincts, and picturing myself saying that, I feel only cringe.

Maybe this guy was socialized differently from me, maybe he was fed too much bluepill movies with unrealistic lines, I can only guess at why he might feel like saying that. He calls it unscripted, but to me it seems like he was just following his old bluepill teenager script for a moment.

So, there's not much I can make of this. Just some guy expressing his disappointment with a pseudo-litterary blog post and blaming the world for his own inadequacies.