Halfway through reading your post I thought I wrote this. I am in the exact same boat as you.

When I was younger I caught my mum cheating on my dad and she put me on anti depressants when I tried to blow the whistle. I then went in to date women similar to my mum and realized some even looked like her. My mum even shamed me for lifting and chasing girls claiming I’m trying to overcompensate for possibly being gay...

Thank god I found solitude in myself and moved out as soon as I turned legal. It’s what made me took the red pill actually, can’t imagine what many other kids out there who will never break out of this toxic cycle.

Your mom is shit testing you...pass it and you can fuck her

Women dont grow the fuck up till around age 45 when they lose their looks. Till then they are basically teenagers. A sad truth

Now that's just a screwed up situation. No family unit should be like that. In this context the red pill was a better father than your biological one, so thank fuck you found it.

This isn't anything unheard of. Any girl you fucked in the ass, came all over, called her slutty names while banging them, slobbered all over your dick. Are almost all going to become moms, just like generations before them. Think that urge just disappears when they push out a child? I was with a girl who had a kid a few years ago kid was around 6-7 and there were multiple times I fucked her spooning under a blanket while he was sitting on the edge of the bed playing a video game or we were laying under a blanket on the couch spooning with me inside her while he's watching TV. Listen to the song "Volvo Driving Soccer Mom by Everclear".

Your parents didn't have the internet. Your dad never learned redpill. Your mum was brainwashed by propaganda.

Don't remove them from your life. They raised you.

Your dad has lived his life and produced a son to be proud of. Your only job now is to honour him until he dies. Do not try to red pill him. You should be proud of him and love him.

Your mum has lived her life and lost respect for your father. It's not her fault. But it's disrespectful. Put her in her place if she disrespects your father. But you should also love her.

Jesus. Why is everyone virtue signalling? I doubt the young man came here for the pontificating. That said, I would advise you to move out of that house. As for whether or not you should cut out your folks, give it a hard long think then deal with the consequences of your choice. On whether you should redpill your father, all you can do as someone else has said is give him a few books to read. This gives you plausible deniability incase he decides to get butthurt due to his ego investment.

Your mom has always been a slut. Hence why she gave birth to such dogshit as yourself.

I remember when I found the dildo, lube, condoms and baby wipes that my mom kept stashed and ready to go in her overnight bag that she took on trips to sleepover with her "girlfriends"

Didnt need any further proof, but walking out of the bathroom to find her with her tits out on webcam (back of laptop facing me, only saw gross mom tit, didnt see what gross mom tit was being displayed on) solidified my suspicions.

(for thoss of you who cant tell from the implications, I discovered that my mom is, for all intents and purposes, a whore)

You aren't here to teach your parents anything. That's not your role. Thank them for giving birth to you and feeding you when you would have shit yourself to death if they had abandoned you. Thank your mother for not being a baby murderer like a lot of women today. Accept that society has led your mother and father down paths to encourage them to be like that -- yes, they ate of the fruit and if that's enough for God to condemn Adam and Eve it's enough to condemn your mother and father as pieces of shit -- but know that hating your parents, even if and ESPECIALLY if your hatred is justified, will always turn INWARD.

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They are your fucking DNA after all. Don't do it. It's a self-destructive trap.

So thank you for the birth, now you guys do you and I'll go do me.

You'll be a twisted tree otherwise.

And the more you stare into the abyss the more the abyss stares back at you. You have identified this whole situation as fucked up. Stop being a moth flying to the nearest source of warmth and think more than one step at a time.

Watch “Rebel Without A Cause”, your story about your cuck dad really reminds me of that movie #JamesDean

This is why I encourage my mom to eat like a fucking pig. Takes her right out the smv game, no dude wants to a fuck a human whale.

“Despite her being in her 40s she still looks fuckable” ಠ_ಠ

I have completely opposite situation. That confirms TRP 100%.

My father is dominant and arrogant as fuck. Not giving shit about feelings of others, including my moms. He completely put here on the bottom. And you know what? She always agrees with his opinion. She does whatever the fuck he wants. And she even defends him when I have an argument with him... She cares about him...

Before TRP I didn't understand why she behaves like this. Why she run like a little girl when he is pissed off.

Now I know the truth. It is sad. But it is the truth.

I lived the same shit. When a child my mother always make me a beta and a loser. When I started to look for myself my mother changed specially when I left home. She was always venting on me now is so nice.

I started to lift irons many years ago, I remember one time she eyed fucking me when I was asleep and I just woke up and busted her. I was really disgusting. So next time I put some heavy boundaries and worked as hell.

The thing you said about women with betas eye fucking I can vouche for that verbatin. It's sick and makes me wanna puke.

TRP is fuckin REAL!

You're still in your anger phase. You're playing up more than it needs to be.

Women are human. Humans have sexual urges.

Now, imagine if that human was raised by feminism and her biological makeup is literally to find the highest value mate, all with little to no self-awareness. That's a girl.

Getting angry at it, resenting your parents who raised you and calling your mom a slut doesn't change it or improve it. Accept it as it is and live your life.

There is one more lesson from OP story - the faster you realize that your parents are just another adult people the better. Yes they are your parents, they gave life to you but their life is still their responsibility. One shall try to think about them like about strangers from time to time. It helps to build independence and often makes relation with parents better overtime.

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Each man's own mum is one of the most important red pills. Until you can not see your mum as the woman she is, you are still plugged.

u/lifeisweirdasfuck could you please talk more about non-verbal shit tests from women, along with some good examples, and how to pass them?

“There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.”

This sub is called Red pill for a reason. Only until you see the real world with your own eyes, do you believe it.

Despite her being in her 40's she still looks fuckable.

Yeesh, way to talk about your mom lmao

I am saving this post as a reference to be looked at again later

Your anger phase is long, I feel sorry for you

Mine was like 2-3 months

Welcome......

To the truth.

You gotta stop this women anger you got built inside of you, NO not all women are like that, YES all women are seeking the highest value men. But not every women is gonna cheat on you as soon as she sees one higher than you. If she respects you (which is up to you to determain that) and she is a normall girl. She probably wont. But if you turn to your inner beta for a period of time. She will lose that respect. In other words stop hating women for their nature. And see what you can do in the future with the tools the RP gave you. You are the creator of your life, if you let women upset that,then you were never a real man.

Every woman is a whore if you catch her on the right day. (Misandry Today).

At 46 yo, I can say this proverb has been 100% true till then.... from many personal and friends' experiences.

I looked right in the eyes of the two guys, and they got the point. But knowing that my mom would have been happy to cheat on my dad, makes me go back in the RP anger phase.

Good, you're allowed to and meant to defend your very first apartment from predators. Don't listen to any idiot who tells you otherwise.

Just start putting your mom in her place. You are RP after all, right?

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Like I have always been saying - 90% women cheat even in marriage. But people living in their blue pill disney fantasy won't just accept it.

Feeling angry is the last step to reach "i don't give a shit" phase, and that's the final phase. When you are totally aware of who you are and the space you ocupy in society you just don't care about seeing this anymore. There is too many people in the world, people like too many different things. Eventually some of them will be used by others as this is the law of nature, weak against strong. The most important thing is being able to see and take advantage of this position. Until today there are still males that cannot see and do not wan to see how they are used as tools, means to reach the end. When i see a guy that is obviously a cuck or a beta i can't help but not feeling any empathy at all. I just look at it and see a woman taking full advantage of a pathetic man and hey, why they shouldn't right ? I live the life the way i want and i don't give a fuck to others opinions unless it is something constructive or helpful. I understand women now more than ever and i just think how life would have been if i had this mindset when i was 15 yo....i think i would have dominated the world lol....but serious, don't be angry at your mom, your dad seems used to this and probabily in a no turning back stage. Just understand how the world works and see in real life what women would do to you if you let them. If you ever going to date a girl make sure to define your boundaries and do not allow the to be broken because this is how they start mining your efforts to make the relationship lasts. I am not against women, i love them. but i just know how they behave and i want make sure it will never bothers me or cause any stress at all.

Can anyone explain why she maybe acting masculune at home and feminine outside?

I have seen snippets of this before

I had an Epiphany moment just this week. I was visiting my parents house and only my dad was home at the time. Out of nowhere my mom gets home and starts screaming like a banshee for no reason. I was not in the mood this day and for the first time ever I basically told her to fuck off. Both my parents were stunned. My dad has absolutely no control of his house or her and she still going insane, he's yelling at me to apologies, I double up and tell him to fuck off too. At this point he's like yeah okay whatever, she storms off. An hour later she's acting innocent like it never happened. One of the most important points you will reach in your red pill journey is yes, AWALT applies to ALL women in your life. Make no fucking excuses for anyone. Not your mom, not your grandma (and boy do I have stories for this one but I'll save them for later as this comment is already getting long), Not your aunt (though my uncle is by FAR the most red pilled man in my entire family and one of the few who I can say is the absolute head of his household)

I'm trying to make peace with the fact that my beta dad basically left me like lamb to the slaughter to my crazy mother for most my life and I'll probably be dealing with the consequence of it for the rest of my life. My father is an amazing man, always *provided* for us but there is very little alpha material to be had. I forgive him. His mom is an extreme narcissist, he lost his father early and then had a series of step fathers, he didn't have any more of a chance then I did and seeing it through that lens I can fully forgive. We you start applying this shit to your family, the rabbit hole runs deep. Too deep. Sometimes it can be too much to handle. Some of the things I've realized lately are literally killing me right now but I'm going to make the best of it as we all are. AWALT always. Always. Always.

Samn, post so good I went ahead and screenshot

Honestly makes me wanna throw up the amount of frame control I need to with my mother. Makes me fucking hate her guts. Now I'm a 23 year old man, muscular 210 lbs 6'1" and she still tries to Child Frame me. I swear to God there should be a red pill exclusively for men to resist their mothers attempts to baby them and break their frame because they give them a sense of purpose. Its been great practice, picking apart the psychological motivations of my mother and her angles of attack because they're oh so similar in real life.

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Tbh if most women are so hellbent on playing frame games, shit-testing and trying to get the upper hand relentlessly I have no idea how to stop it other than to instate a Dominance/Submissive dynamic relationship with my wife/LTR and extend it partially outside of the bedroom in the form of rules. I've always included D/s dynamic with my partners in bed but never really in our relationship other than tongue in cheek flirtation alluding to our sex life. Puts you in control of the relationship, makes you seem like the gatekeeper, and makes the whole process of passing bad behavior/disrespect shit-tests feel like a really sexy game. Tying up (haha) frame control, boundaries and defining the role she will play in your life with a sexual fetish bypasses the natural power struggle game play on the non-sexual battle field.

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Can I ask you however: What's a non-verbal shit test?

if anything you should be grateful to your dad. He showed you reality while sitting at home. Don't be pissed and angry (don't lose frame), it hurts you in the long run. You're already observant but you gotta work on remaining stoic. Keep your emotions under observation. See what ticks you off, work on your 'flip switches' and never let anyone outside control you by pressing your buttons. Gratefulness is a really good tool to self improvement, it heals everything.

Gaming older women and younger women is about the same.

Went to a 19+ festival over the weekend, first time where I found a couple of cuties in their 30s.

Smashing them was no different then hitting up girls in their 20s.

They never truly grow up.

My mother had my dad take two jobs so she could go to a western country and “better support the family”. She had been working with lots of European men at the time and I guess one or two of them used to flirt with her so she thought she had a better chance if she was not tied to a family and would also have unlimited access to them.

She had not realised that she had hit the wall and was begging to come back after just 4 months. At the time I was 9 and remember her saying to my father “X’s father” (men are addressed by their first born’s name followed by father in my culture), “don’t listen to all the stories you hear about [insert our race] dating white men, it’s only always with a disabled guy”. WTF?

My father sent her money whilst she was there hunting white men, now she treats him like garbage even threatens to take everything away from him. I have not spoken to my father for 3 years, even though they stay under the same roof, because he needs her permission first. They are not divorced or anything.

My dad is the weakest man I know, I have a friend whose mother lives in different country to his father (a very popular indirect broken bedroom situation which is accepted in all third world countries) I told him she sees him as a beta and is not sexually attracted to him, because he sees his dad like fucking superman he could not accept this reality. Even I used to buy it, but damn man, all women, doesn’t matter what culture or race she’s from, they are all the same. They just good at selling stories that you won’t even know why she is doing what she’s doing, you will actually believe she is doing it “for her family” when she is just dick hunting.

a message to all you guys who may be racist. feel how you want to but don't think your woman feels the same just bc she's with you.

I'm in (supposed) racist south La and i know several conservative and conservative looking white women that will jump on a black cock in a split second. tyrone and jamal fuck a lot of white women!

married, single, old, young... it doesn't matter bc most creep to get their fix.

Woman respect the male hierarchy. Men act as entitled and in command as other men allow; women read your level of status through your actions/reactions and act accordingly. Your experience of women is binary: respected or used, this is determined by whether you are a top man or not.

Ok- wtf thread is this.

Some decent arguments on this forum- this is not one of them.

What does it even mean to act masculine in your house, but feminine outside of it?

Are you implying your mom is a man? I don't get it.

Yea people dress different outside of the house, your not going to wear heels to garden, or a dress to do laundry.

Put you best foot forward, look presentable in public. You learn that when your 2.

Another creepy thing - from your massive rant here your mom never has cheated. You only think she wants to because of ....masculinity? lol.

Not sure why your blaming your mom for dudes hitting on her- also kinda creepy that you refered to her as fuckable.

Really weirded out at this point, but fuck Freud would have a field day examing you OP

2 things.

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1. i think women are not actors in the conscious sense. it's more that they are reactionary. they will show a different personality according to who they are dealing with. But it's not like some evil charade, it's more like women instinctively mould to their environment. if their environment is a masculine man, they act feminine. if they're at work, they're work mode. if they're around da feminine man, they act masculine.
2. i think Rollo said it that hypergamy isn't a strait jacket. meaning that hypergamy IS their foundational psychological software BUT they can proactively curb it. Meaning that say a catholic girl who strongly believes in her religion can suppress her hypergamy's urge to jump on chads dick. Because she's been trained that way. It means if you leave girls to their own devices as feminism has taught them, and you let them police their own hypergamy, then they all become raging whores lol because they are reactionary so they will be a hoe whenever they're around hot guys. so they CAN act proper and suppress their hypergamic nature BUT western culture does NOT teach women to do that. so you end up seeing what you see with girls even your mother all acting like hoes.

so in simple terms it means that western culture encourages the ugliest parts of women's nature. HOWEVER, this does not mean that women cannot be taught and conditioned to NOT succumb to their natural urges.

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Rollo was talking about how on one of his shows, some lady called up saying that when her husband got cancer and was bed ridden, she stuck with him through it even though he'd become a shell of what he was. Now some women according to hypergamy would jump ship, but she had clearly suppressed her instinctual emotions to stay with him.

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the reason i'm saying all this is so you don't get TOOO jaded about women. they are not on some evil slut mission.some are. but most have just been raised in a culture that encourages them to be shitty people. but there are good women out there with potential. AWALT is always gonna be true but there are varying degrees from AWALT on steroids like strippers and twitch girls, to more regular chicks who are more level headed whoa re still AWALT but no where near to that same extent.

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the anger phase for me ended when i realized that most women are not doing the fucked up shit they do out of an evil agenda. it's more like they're just easily led astray and easily influence by their own bullshit and other people's bullshit. they're like children. If a girl for example were to cheat on me, anger phase me would be like "THAT EVIL BITCH WHORE". but current me would be like "she's such a dumbass".

That's why you need a young (earlier years are typically the most difficult so being their for one another will set a strong foundation for your relationship), virgin (for pair bonding) and Christian (good morals, surrounded by others with similar morals, not hedonistic).

If anyone here has a woman like that and they still cheat feel free to share.

Lol, two of my female Co workers flirting with me for months before I found out they both had kids and married.

I only found out one of them because the dad brought the kid to the office. These moms man...

The ultimate red pill is when you realize that pretty much all "good" mothers out there are AWALT

Bro I relate to this so hard, my mum just broke up with my stepdad of almost 10 years. He was a pretty healthy guy, lifted, about 50 years old, insane strength. Only thing was he had some money problems out of his control and that was enough to end it. Hypergamy makes up their blood

Going through your posts history and you're cringe as they come, you need help bro

Part of every Red Pillers journey is learning that their own family - mom, sister, grandmother are AWALT just the same.

Totes brah. Don’t talk to those people. Go live by yourself and fuck milfs in your new apartment. Break up other marriages. Bodybuilders are at the top of society.

Ugh. I can relate to you on the anger thing. I moved back in w/ my dad & stepmom at 23 years old after seriously fucking my life up financially and avoiding it by travelling the world. After a while I realized my stepmom was trying to fuck me. I got so disgusted by this. Instantly brought me back to the anger phase of waking up. I'm glad I moved out again and am now 3,000 miles away. Fuck reality. My dad's pretty red pilled in some ways but his betabux provider mentality is fucking him over so badly. Wish there was something I could say or do. But the best I can do is just work on myself and rewire my DNA.

One of the ladies I associate with is in her late forties to early fifties. She still looks good. Her age didn't stop her from fucking a relatively successful (career-wise) guy in his twenties, who SHE then ghosted because he seemed too needy. Getting laid is easy for women. So many guys are thirsty and desperate because of the bottle-neck around the fertile, attractive women, that there are still plenty of pickings for older women who take care of themselves. They won't get serious relationships, but they will have plenty of affairs, with guys 10-30 years younger than them.

Your psyche will pressure you to “rescue your father from the belly of the beast” and you seem to be trying to run away from that and still expose all the details here to strangers to see if you can have some help.

It’s okay but instead of trying to treat your parents as strangers (they never will be), picture this:

Unpretentiously, ask your father to talk with you face to face in private for a minute. Tell him you want him to have something that you want to give him, but that you’ll do this only once, strictly once. He will be curious. When face to face handle him a physical copy of The Rational Male and tell him that you want him to read this book because you think it has potential to improve life quality. Thank him for being the best father he could be, hug and that’s it. He will be even more curious. Hold the tension. Let that curiosity to be his driver to read the book. Don’t explain or tell him you would that with him about that subject but only after reading that book.

Maybe nothing happens, and you move on having done your part. Or, maybe your catalize TRP process on your father opening a lot of new possibilities.

Boring husband at home, fun guys outside. Gave up on what she has and seeks it out of the house.

I don't see the problem, it's not like your mom is the virgin Mary. She wants to finally get fucked right after all those years.

Women have a sexdrive and don't want to fuck boring losers. What else is new?

It's not so much about seeing the truth as realizing you have been living a fucking fantasy your whole life. You are all the result of making rules which work for you instead of adjusting to the real rules out there and put in effort to play them well.

the fuck are you angry at a female for doing female things? things she was hardwired to do in order for your ass to spawn? if women weren't so cut-throat, so sexually discriminating , so slutty, we'd still be living in mudhuts (probably even worse).

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this is 100% the fault of your father for being beta. or who knows what they got goin on, he may be getting some young pussy on the side as well. point is it was his job to rule the home with an iron first and be her worthy overlord which would curb any need to cheat.

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in these cases, you shake your head, cuz girls gon be girls, and you move on.

I guess Nietzsche was right when he said god is dead...

Nah my mom has supported me through EVERYTHING and actively encouraged me to become better, my mother is the only woman that I will ever truly love.

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PROTIP - I've found that with myself being more muscular (big arms, shoulders and chest) I get more attention from women 40+ (im 20) than girls 18- 25.

I think this is probably because most guys their age dont have these assets.